For the Film is Dead?? file

2012-12-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Ilford has introduced two new disposable cameras shooting BW film. One comes loaded with XP2 and the other HP5. I have no idea who would buy such things, I mean their lenses will probably be too good and have fewer light leeks than lomograhers would want, and anyone else wanting to shoot

Re: For the Film is Dead?? file

2012-12-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:39 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ilford has introduced two new disposable cameras shooting BW film. One comes loaded with XP2 and the other HP5. I have no idea who would buy such things, I mean their lenses will probably be too good and have

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-18 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net writes: PS my LunaPro still works...I will need a source for the PX625a cells though. I've been buying them from this guy: http://stores.ebay.com/BATTERY-MART -tih -- I don't believe that souls or bodies can be changed by incantation.

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-18 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/18/2011 3:52 AM, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote: John Gravesjh.gra...@verizon.net writes: PS my LunaPro still works...I will need a source for the PX625a cells though. I've been buying them from this guy: http://stores.ebay.com/BATTERY-MART -tih Now that it's been decided that it's

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-18 Thread William Robb
On 18/01/2011 10:01 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Now that it's been decided that it's alright to have mercury in Light Bulbs when will we get our mercury batteries back? Yeah, that's pretty funny actually. Ceiling Voice says: Did you know that compact florescent light bulbs contain mercury and as

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-18 Thread eckinator
Yeah. Unfortunately last figure stated for Germany was 89% end up in household trash. Mercury doesn't react into something harmless in waste incinerators and cannot be filtered, it goes straight into the food chain. Politics. You have to wonder. Ecke 2011/1/18 William Robb

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-18 Thread William Robb
On 18/01/2011 10:46 AM, eckinator wrote: Yeah. Unfortunately last figure stated for Germany was 89% end up in household trash. Mercury doesn't react into something harmless in waste incinerators and cannot be filtered, it goes straight into the food chain. Politics. You have to wonder. Ecke I

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-18 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/18/2011 1:43 PM, William Robb wrote: On 18/01/2011 10:46 AM, eckinator wrote: Yeah. Unfortunately last figure stated for Germany was 89% end up in household trash. Mercury doesn't react into something harmless in waste incinerators and cannot be filtered, it goes straight into the food

Film is dead?

2011-01-17 Thread John Graves
Aside from my Digital Pentax, I am the recipient of some of my Dad's cameras. Included in the lot are a couple of Contaxes and a Leica M4. The Tessar 50 mm is supposedly good. The M4 has an assortment of lenses including what can either be described as a cannon or a do-it yourself SLR.

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm jealous! The M4 is a great camera. Some Contaxes are excellent as well. Tell us more! The thing that looks like a cannon or do-it-yourself SLR is probably a Leica Visoflex system for focusing longer lenses that aren't rangefinder coupled. It's awkward at best. What other Leica lenses do

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Silver salts have been used in the past as an antibiotic. They kill a lot of bacteria. However unless you're dumping commercial quantities, (hundreds of gallons), not a gallon or two, and in your case probably a lot less, it shouldn't cause any problem in a sewage treatment plant. I know

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-17 Thread John Graves
Paul, I have already discovered the Leica snick. Lenses. The Cannon is a 200 mm Telyt which must be used with the Visoflex viewer/mirror assembly. It took me a while to figure out how to put that assembly together. The camera came with a 50mm f1.4 Summilux, 35mm f2.0 Summicron, and 135mm f4

RE: Film is dead?

2011-01-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Graves I have a few questions for the group though. If I dump the Microdol into the town's septic system, will the Treatment Plant blow up or otherwise stop functioning. Is there a good way to clean out the plastic and glass (fixer) bottles or should I add to my collection? Have I

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 January 2011 09:08, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: Paul, I have already discovered the Leica snick.  Lenses.  The Cannon is a 200 mm Telyt which must be used with the Visoflex viewer/mirror assembly. It took me a while to figure out how to put that assembly together. The

Re: Film is dead?

2011-01-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice. The Summilux 50/1.4 gets good reviews; the Summicron 35/2 is a classic. And, as I'm sure you know, both of those Contax bodies are wonderful cameras. I believe there's some debate in regard tow which is superior -- the II or IIA, but both are superb. I think the II was a prewar design,

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/22/2010 7:54 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I've met some students this week who have never seen a record player (I quickly told them to google record player and click web images), and I used the expression

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-26 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/26/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Hell, I had/have correction tape in my Royal manual typewriter. You really were old school... Don't use that stuff. It crumbles and falls into the machine, gumming up the works something awful. Learn to type betetr or jsut leanr to

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-26 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/26/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:  Hell, I had/have correction tape in my Royal manual typewriter.  You really were old school... Don't use that stuff.  It crumbles and falls into the

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead Bill, I just emailed you off list. Cheers, Christine And I just replied, equally offlist. And I just went and had another shower - purely due to the photoporn, I assure you

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to define the term used.  :-) Might just as well not mention my box of 78's then Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread paul stenquist
On Jan 24, 2010, at 7:28 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to define the term used. :-) Might just as well not mention my box of

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread mike wilson
David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to define the term used. :-) Might just as well not mention my box of 78's then Pffft. Cylinders

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread David Savage
2010/1/24 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:  and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to define the term used.  :-) Might just as well

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread mike wilson
David Savage wrote: 2010/1/24 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to define the term used. :-)

RE: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread Bob W
and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to define the term used. :-) Might just as well not mention my box of 78's then I have a couple of hundred 78s, including a few in the old Edison format, and a crank-up phonograph to play them

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread P N Stenquist
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Bob W wrote: and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to define the term used. :-) Might just as well not mention my box of 78's then I have a couple of hundred 78s, including a few in the old Edison format, and a

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/24/2010 8:54 AM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jan 24, 2010, at 7:28 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to define the term

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread eckinator
2010/1/24 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: My records aren't vinyl, they're some kind of ceramic. They break if you look at them the wrong way. you mean shellac? cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/24/2010 12:00 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Bob W wrote: and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to define the term used. :-) Might just as well not mention my box of 78's then I have a couple of hundred 78s,

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread eckinator
2010/1/24 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: On 1/24/2010 8:54 AM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jan 24, 2010, at 7:28 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christine  Aguila wrote: and I usedthe expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then proceeded to

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Looks like somebody's robot got lost... On 1/21/2010 9:23 AM, William Robb wrote: No attempt at art, but this is a bonafide foundview. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/fid.html William Robb -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}}

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread Tom C
That's what I was thinking. I looked to see if a Jawa was peering from behind the dumpster. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like somebody's robot got lost... On 1/21/2010 9:23 AM, William Robb wrote: No attempt at art, but this is a

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread Derby Chang
Subash wrote: talking of film, i just got myself a SuperA in beautiful condition: the electronics, metering, everything works. came with an odd 20mm lens, RE.Auto-Topcor 20mm 1:4. googled a bit and found out about topcon cameras and that the voigtlander nokton 58/1.4 is 'derived' from the topcor

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-24 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:54 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have a couple of hundred 78s, including a few in the old Edison format,   and a crank-up phonograph to play them on. Paul Dave I;'m not sure how many Dad had but IIRC its around 50-75, not really sure. Sis

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead And I'm determined to have some cash saved some time later this year for a Pentax medium format film camera. I'll give you a good deal on some very nice 6x7 gear. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread Christine Aguila
From: William Robb war...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead And I'm determined to have some cash saved some time later this year for a Pentax medium format film camera. I'll give you a good deal on some very nice 6x7 gear

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread Subash
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:23:50 -0600 William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead And I'm determined to have some cash saved some time later this year for a Pentax medium format film camera. I'll give you a good deal on some very nice 6x7

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead In all seriousness, I will keep this offer in mind, Bill. Cheers, Christine In all seriousness, this should whet your apetite a bit: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/6x7stuff/fleet67.html William

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Bill, I just emailed you off list. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:11 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead Bill, I just emailed you off list. Cheers, Christine And I just replied, equally offlist. best bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead Bill, I just emailed you off list. Cheers, Christine

RE: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread John Coyle
Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead In all seriousness, I will keep this offer in mind, Bill. Cheers, Christine In all seriousness, this should whet your apetite a bit: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread P N Stenquist
Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Sunday, 24 January 2010 1:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead In all

RE: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread John Coyle
Thanks Paul - but finances won't let me! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P N Stenquist Sent: Sunday, 24 January 2010 11:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead On Jan 23, 2010

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-23 Thread P. J. Alling
On 1/23/2010 10:11 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead In all seriousness, I will keep this offer in mind, Bill. Cheers, Christine In all seriousness, this should whet your apetite a bit: http

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread eckinator
somebody go diving... =( 2010/1/22 Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net: I also bet that more goody were in the red dumpster too. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Wow, is that a film processor?  Looks like it was once expensive. -- Bruce

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead Wow, is that a film processor? Looks like it was once expensive. Yup, Back in it's day that was about 25K worth of machinery. It was stripped for whatever parts might be useful (bellows pumps and the like

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:32 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: somebody go diving... =( Oh, I would love too. But my wife will kill me, for sure. -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
, you wrote: WR - Original Message - WR From: Bruce Dayton WR Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead Wow, is that a film processor? Looks like it was once expensive. WR Yup, Back in it's day that was about 25K worth of machinery. WR It was stripped for whatever parts might be useful (bellows

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Dayton Wow, is that a film processor? Looks like it was once expensive. -- Bruce Thursday, January 21, 2010, 6:23:16 AM, you wrote: WR No attempt at art, but this is a bonafide foundview. WR http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/fid.html WR William Robb Noritsu

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton wrote: Certainly a tell-tale sign of the future of film. Sounds like the cost to get color developed is only going to rise until doing it at home is the only viable option. I'm sure glad I sold my film gear when it still had some value. About two years ago I stopped in at one of

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:15 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead Bruce Dayton wrote: Certainly a tell-tale sign of the future of film. Sounds like the cost to get color

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread mike wilson
John Sessoms wrote: From: Bruce Dayton Wow, is that a film processor? Looks like it was once expensive. -- Bruce Thursday, January 21, 2010, 6:23:16 AM, you wrote: WR No attempt at art, but this is a bonafide foundview. WR http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/fid.html WR

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: PESO: Film is Dead Question for William Robb - What is the function of the building it was sitting next to? That building is the back of the warehouse where I (and a whole bunch of other people) have storage/workshops

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Bruce Dayton wrote: Certainly a tell-tale sign of the future of film.  Sounds like the cost to get color developed is only going to rise until doing it at home is the only viable option. I'm sure glad I sold my film gear

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread paul stenquist
On Jan 22, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Bruce Dayton wrote: Certainly a tell-tale sign of the future of film. Sounds like the cost to get color developed is only going to rise until doing it at home is the

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Bruce Dayton wrote: Certainly a tell-tale sign of the future of film. Sounds like the cost to get color developed is only going to rise until doing it at home is the only viable option. I'm sure glad I sold my film gear when it still had some value. About two years ago I

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: Christine Aguila Bruce Dayton wrote: Certainly a tell-tale sign of the future of film. Sounds like the cost to get color developed is only going to rise until doing it at home is the only viable option. I'm sure glad I sold my film gear when it still had some value. About two years

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I've met some students this week who have never seen a record player (I quickly told them to google record player and click web images), and I used the expression *45* and received lots of wrinkled brows; I then

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-22 Thread Christine Aguila
From: Christine Aguila Bruce Dayton wrote: Certainly a tell-tale sign of the future of film. Sounds like the cost to get color developed is only going to rise until doing it at home is the only viable option. I'm sure glad I sold my film gear when it still had some value. About two

PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-21 Thread William Robb
No attempt at art, but this is a bonafide foundview. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/fid.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-21 Thread David J Brooks
All thats left is to carve the head stone Dave On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:23 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: No attempt at art, but this is a bonafide foundview. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/fid.html William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:23 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: No attempt at art, but this is a bonafide foundview. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/fid.html Looks artsy to me. A poignant photo that brought a tear to my eye. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Wow, is that a film processor? Looks like it was once expensive. -- Bruce Thursday, January 21, 2010, 6:23:16 AM, you wrote: WR No attempt at art, but this is a bonafide foundview. WR http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/fid.html WR William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Film is Dead

2010-01-21 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
I also bet that more goody were in the red dumpster too. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Wow, is that a film processor?  Looks like it was once expensive. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-23 Thread Luiz Felipe
Bob, don't forget the destiny of out-of-work horses... LF Bob W escreveu: They still make buggy whips too. I doubt anyone has any illusion that the horse drawn buggy is still alive as a transportation machine, though. :-) it is, actually. Most of the world's population do not live in

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-23 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Bob, don't forget the destiny of out-of-work horses... That's a sticky subject. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:18 , Scott Loveless wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Bob, don't forget the destiny of out-of-work horses... That's a sticky subject. While I'm tanning tomorrow I'll hide my remorse for the horse. Joseph

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-23 Thread Luiz Felipe
V700 .-) DagT Den 20. mars. 2009 kl. 22.01 skrev Nick Wright: Now who's being ridiculous? If film is dead then why did Kodak make Ektar (now in 120 too)? Why did Fuji reintroduce Velvia? Why did a company show a new $1,600 enlarger at PMA? Why is Voigtlander still pumping out brand new

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: And why do companies like Ilford still sell lots of film? Some of us still use it: J: http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/443000-443999/443614_1280x1024.jpg T:

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-21 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/20/2009 2:41:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, li...@thrane.name writes: And why do companies like Ilford still sell lots of film? Some of us still use it: J: http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/443000-443999/443614_1280x1024.jpg T:

Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread Nick Wright
Now who's being ridiculous? If film is dead then why did Kodak make Ektar (now in 120 too)? Why did Fuji reintroduce Velvia? Why did a company show a new $1,600 enlarger at PMA? Why is Voigtlander still pumping out brand new rangefinders and lenses to go with? Not to mention their new Bessa III

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
. They still make buggy whips too. I doubt anyone has any illusion that the horse drawn buggy is still alive as a transportation machine, though. :-) G On Mar 20, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Nick Wright wrote: Now who's being ridiculous? If film is dead then why did Kodak make Ektar (now in 120 too)? Why did

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
and money for the vast majority. Fortunately, that makes film equipment very inexpensive for those who do wish to partake. Paul On Mar 20, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Nick Wright wrote: Now who's being ridiculous? If film is dead then why did Kodak make Ektar (now in 120 too)? Why did Fuji

PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread DagT
/images/444000-444999/444154_1280x1024.jpg Bronica SQ-A, PS 180mm 1:4.5, Ilford HP5+ 120, Epson V700 .-) DagT Den 20. mars. 2009 kl. 22.01 skrev Nick Wright: Now who's being ridiculous? If film is dead then why did Kodak make Ektar (now in 120 too)? Why did Fuji reintroduce Velvia? Why did

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Wonderful portraits, Dag! I bet you didn't really *need* to use film to make them. However, that old Bronica SQ-A is a nice camera. Godfrey On Mar 20, 2009, at 2:40 PM, DagT wrote: And why do companies like Ilford still sell lots of film? Some of us still use it: J:

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread DagT
Thanks! Maybe you are right. Give me a dslr with waist level finder and large sensor and I´ll consider it .-) And the PS180mm is a fantastic lens too... DagT Den 20. mars. 2009 kl. 22.43 skrev Godfrey DiGiorgi: Wonderful portraits, Dag! I bet you didn't really *need* to use film to make

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread Nick Wright
Sorry! I thought you were being serious. I hate email. I happen to believe that the horse and buggy is a completely appropriate form of transportation, seriously. If I had enough land to grow the food a horse would require I would have and use one in a heartbeat. Also if film were dead (or even

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread Nick Wright
Great portraits. I especially like that second one. Was he hamming for the camera? Or was he really upset? Also, how do you like that V700? On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: Thanks! Maybe you are right. Give me a dslr with waist level finder and large sensor and

RE: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread Bob W
They still make buggy whips too. I doubt anyone has any illusion that the horse drawn buggy is still alive as a transportation machine, though. :-) it is, actually. Most of the world's population do not live in the countries that we live in, but the horse-, donkey- or ass-drawn buggy

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:40:55PM +0100, DagT wrote: And why do companies like Ilford still sell lots of film? Some of us still use it: J: http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/443000-443999/443614_1280x1024.jpg T:

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread Scott Loveless
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: They still make buggy whips too. I doubt anyone has any illusion that the horse drawn buggy is still alive as a transportation machine, though. :-) it is, actually. Most of the world's population do not live in the

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread Scott Loveless
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry! I thought you were being serious. I hate email. I happen to believe that the horse and buggy is a completely appropriate form of transportation, seriously. If I had enough land to grow the food a horse would

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker
DagT wrote: And why do companies like Ilford still sell lots of film? Some of us still use it: J: http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/443000-443999/443614_1280x1024.jpg T: http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/445000-445999/445718_1280x1024.jpg L:

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread Tim Bray
ridiculous? If film is dead then why did Kodak make Ektar (now in 120 too)? Why did Fuji reintroduce Velvia? Why did a company show a new $1,600 enlarger at PMA? Why is Voigtlander still pumping out brand new rangefinders and lenses to go with? Not to mention their new Bessa III 6x7/6x6

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Nick Wright Subject: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...) Film is no more dead than painting is dead. It's just found a slightly different niche than it once had. Slightly different, and much, much smaller. William

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Nick Wright Subject: Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...) Also if film were dead (or even on life support), there would not be two one hour minilabs in a town with under 10,000 population. I think you'll find

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi DagT: Your portraits are Beautiful! Beautiful! Beautiful! I love'em! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: DagT li...@thrane.name To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead And why do

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread DagT
Thanks, Nick and the rest of you! He was really upset and I guess I intruded on him with the camera. My wife loves that photograph (T) but I prefer the first one (J), so it´s nice that others disagree as well :-) DagT Den 20. mars. 2009 kl. 22.57 skrev Nick Wright: Great portraits. I

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry! I thought you were being serious. I hate email. We are serious. This is the PDML. :-) dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread Nick Wright
be surprised. When I worked there, there was more film brought in than I thought especially disposable cameras. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:09 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Nick Wright Subject: Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Nick Wright Subject: Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...) Also if film were dead (or even on life support), there would not be two one hour

Re: PESO - Three boys, WAS: Film is dead

2009-03-20 Thread pnstenquist
Well done. Beautifully rendered, great looks. Paul - Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: DagT wrote: And why do companies like Ilford still sell lots of film? Some of us still use it: J: http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/443000-443999/443614_1280x1024.jpg

Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...)

2009-03-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Nick Wright Subject: Re: Film is dead (was: Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...) Granted, I know that's true. I recently worked at one of them for a short bit. But the fact remains that the film machine is a seperate machine from

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-15 Thread Sandy Harris
On 8/14/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diagrams and artists renditions are always nice touches for rumors... A better link for Zenit rumours: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=574956 -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
Yeah, and small sensors will improve too, just not as much. Small size matters to people and the small sensors are here to stay. It just shifts more of the market away from the MF or bigger formats. I'm not saying these things won't exist, but they will be even more of a niche market ( and

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Diagrams and artists renditions are always nice touches for rumors... Sandy Harris wrote: On 8/6/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 5, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: There have been reports that Zenit is working on a DSLR with a 4/3 sensor that will take LTM

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-14 Thread Sandy Harris
On 8/6/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 5, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: There have been reports that Zenit is working on a DSLR with a 4/3 sensor that will take LTM (Leica thread mount 39mm) kenses. Not sure about exposure, but obviously manual focus. Reports from

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-14 Thread Steve Desjardins
Interesting. I still think (nothing radical here and has been said by others) that APS or 4/3 (maybe both) will be the new 35 mm and that the 24 x 36 sensor will be the new MF. MF sensors will just be expensive overkill for most folks, consumer, enthusiast or professional. Sandy Harris

Re: FID (Film is Dead)

2007-08-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Already he forgets the beauty of medium and large format prints and slides... Steve Desjardins wrote: Interesting. I still think (nothing radical here and has been said by others) that APS or 4/3 (maybe both) will be the new 35 mm and that the 24 x 36 sensor will be the new MF. MF sensors

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