Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-22 Thread Cotty
According to DPReview, there's some wizard new processing system in this camera: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082103pentaxa20.asp that bumps up the resolution. they call it 'ASIC'. I presume this is what Aaron is hyped up about? deflating wind Give me a party-popper ;-) -- Cheers,

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Not the resolution part of it, and not by itself. But sort of yes! -Aaron -- http://aaronreynolds.ca http://battersbox.ca http://hardballtimes.com -Original Message- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Tue 2006 Aug 22 4:23 pm Size: 526 bytes

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-22 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: According to DPReview, there's some wizard new processing system in this camera: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082103pentaxa20.asp that bumps up the resolution. they call it 'ASIC'. I presume this is what Aaron is hyped up about? deflating wind Give me a

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-22 Thread Rick Womer
Something wrong with that link, Cotty--I get a cannot be found message. Rick --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to DPReview, there's some wizard new processing system in this camera: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082103pentaxa20.asp that bumps up the resolution. they

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/8/06, Aaron Reynolds, discombobulated, unleashed: Not the resolution part of it, and not by itself. Processing speed increase + probable buffer size increase = reasonably fast shooting capability. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/8/06, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Something wrong with that link, Cotty--I get a cannot be found message. Rick http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082103pentaxa20.asp Keep trying, it's there. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-22 Thread Peter Loveday
According to DPReview, there's some wizard new processing system in this camera: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082103pentaxa20.asp that bumps up the resolution. they call it 'ASIC'. I presume this is what Aaron is hyped up about? I really hope theres more to this that it seems on the

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 22, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Peter Loveday wrote: I really hope theres more to this that it seems on the surface. I don't know anything about the ps, but as to that other thing, yes. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-20 Thread Jens Bladt
PROTECTED] vegne af Paul Stenquist Sendt: 18. august 2006 04:43 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Pentax has some very nice new zooms. The DA 12-24/4 is excellent, as is the DA 16-45/4. Some more are on the horizon. I believe one of them is a 50-200/2.8. Paul

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-20 Thread P. J. Alling
+45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Paul Stenquist Sendt: 18. august 2006 04:43 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Pentax has some very nice new zooms. The DA

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-19 Thread P. J. Alling
, augustus 16, 2006 12:43 PM Aan: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Onderwerp: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:36 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: A lens with shutterblades, will allow high shutterspeeds, when using a flash. Nope, I don't have one of those for the 67. -Aaron

Re: fine art print sizes without cropping (RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I've found a source for Ilford Galerie Smooth Gloss for about 25% less than I can get it anywhere on line. I print to fit that and find frames and mats to match. But then I'm a Yankee, (read cheap). Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 2:47 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Cropping the image

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread David Mann
On Aug 18, 2006, at 6:45 AM, Bertil Holmberg wrote: What I would appreciate in a new body is the alternative to look down into the viewfinder. This is possible with the Pentax 67, I believe. Yes, with the waist-level finder. The thing I like about the 67 viewfinder is that it's big; I

Re: fine art print sizes without cropping (RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread David Mann
On Aug 18, 2006, at 3:35 AM, Cotty wrote: I have done this from my first days with inkjet. I bought a Dahl rotary trimmer (cuts up to A3) for fifty quid in 1999 and haven't looked back. One of the best investments I ever made - and still going strong on the original blade! I print

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/17/2006 9:58:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The rumoured prices are quite steep, though; $1000 for the 18-50, and $1300 for the 50-135. Still, that's only $3500 or so for a K10D, battery grip, and both the f2.8 zooms; I was anticipating a

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:09:28 +0200 schreef John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just someone who tracks the announcements a little more closely. The original Pentax lens roadmap did, indeed, show a 50-200 zoom. In fact it showed two of them; the 50-200/f4-5.6 we've now seen, and a later, more

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread DagT
I'd give it a few months more to decide. If they are going to introduce USM lenses it will be a logical explanation for why they have stopped producing a lot of long lenses. They may be planning to revive them with USM. DagT Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know I am getting seriously tempted

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:03:00 +0100, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd give it a few months more to decide. If they are going to introduce USM lenses it will be a logical explanation for why they have stopped producing a lot of long lenses. They may be planning to revive them with USM.

Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread DagT
Fra: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:03:00 +0100, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd give it a few months more to decide. If they are going to introduce USM lenses it will be a logical explanation for why they have stopped producing a lot of long lenses. They

New zooms [Was: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body]

2006-08-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/17/2006 9:58:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The rumoured prices are quite steep, though; $1000 for the 18-50, and $1300 for the 50-135. Still, that's only $3500 or so for a K10D, battery grip, and

Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread John Forbes
If the image circle is designed for APS-C, then the lenses will be smaller and lighter than those designed for 35mm. So they WILL be small and light, relatively speaking. But, like you, I hope they have USM. We shall know in good time. John On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:41:15 +0100, DagT [EMAIL

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread DagT
They will be smaller of you compare field of view (as a 135 2.8 is much smaller than a 200mm 2.8), but if you compare with the same focal length with the same maximum aperture the front element will be the same no matter how small the sensor is. DagT Fra: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] If

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd give it a few months more to decide. If they are going to introduce USM lenses it will be a logical explanation for why they have stopped producing a lot of long lenses. They may be planning to revive them with USM.

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe the 'more expensive' one from the first roadmap transmogrified into the 60-250/4 rumour. The constant f/4 was never in the roadmap, it was only referred to as 'high performance D FA telezoom', IIRC. Someone on

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread John Forbes
So how do you explain the fact that a Pentax 110 1:2.8 50mm is about 1/4 the size of a Pentax 1:2.8 50mm in K-mount? John On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:35:13 +0100, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They will be smaller of you compare field of view (as a 135 2.8 is much smaller than a 200mm 2.8),

SV: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread Jens Bladt
: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Aaron Reynolds Sendt: 17. august 2006 00:14 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Aug 16, 2006, at 5:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO, the only BIIG

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread DagT
The size of the mirror, or in other words: the distance from the lens mount to the film/sensor, does play a part in shorter lenses, but the width stays the same. Remember that aperture is simply the ratio between focal length and lens diameter. As long as you dont have retrofocus or telecentric

Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the image circle is designed for APS-C, then the lenses will be smaller and lighter than those designed for 35mm. So they WILL be small and light, relatively speaking. According to the roadmap the two 2.8 zooms are

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:17 PM, David Mann wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 6:45 AM, Bertil Holmberg wrote: What I would appreciate in a new body is the alternative to look down into the viewfinder. This is possible with the Pentax 67, I believe. Yes, with the waist-level finder. The thing I like

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread Eactivist
Thanks to those who have discussed telephotos. Since that is MY interest. Beginning to think about selling some Canon gear. Beginning to feel more Pentaxian again. Exciting times. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread Pål Jensen
I wrote: According to the roadmap the two 2.8 zooms are covering the APS size; they are DA lenses. The 60-250/4 is a D FA lens and hence full frame. You can bet that the coming telephotos are full frame too as it makes no sense making them DA lenses. REPLY: I'm talking about the roadmap

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread graywolf
That is not necessarily the case with ultra-telephoto lenses. For instance, the original 6x7 300mm f/4.0 was exactly the same lens as the K version for 35mm with a different mount, and 300mm is not exactly a UT. With UT's the size of the glass is determined by the speed desired not the

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread graywolf
Simple: the lens elements in a 50/2.8 are very small in relation to the 35mm lens mount. Making it fit a much smaller lens mount produces a much smaller lens. The diameter of the glass is about the same though. That is what they did with the M300/4 which is why it has that distictive potato

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread John Forbes
You're right. In fact, the front element of the 110 lens is bigger (radially) than the same element of the K lens. The rear element on the K is larger than that of the 110, though. John On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:32:43 +0100, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple: the lens elements in a

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-18 Thread John Forbes
Yes, you are right. It's the barrel that's so much bigger. John On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:31:47 +0100, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The size of the mirror, or in other words: the distance from the lens mount to the film/sensor, does play a part in shorter lenses, but the width stays the

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread David Mann
On Aug 17, 2006, at 4:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manual focus screen. That's something I'd like for any AF camera. Just a microprism spot in the centre, please. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Marco Alpert
I'm not much into guessing games, but for those who are, I noticed this post from Aaron earlier today: On Aug 16, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: If you shoot RAW you'll probably want nothing smaller than 2 Gig cards for this camera, because of the 10-megapixels and... other

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:35:27 +0200 schreef Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not much into guessing games, Yeah, right :o) but for those who are, I noticed this post from Aaron earlier today: On Aug 16, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: If you shoot RAW you'll probably want

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Alpert Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2006 4:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body I'm not much into guessing games, but for those who are, I noticed this post from Aaron earlier today: On Aug 16, 2006

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
One more thing came to my head about what Aaron could like in K10D. What about in-camera RAW development? ;-) Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Compression, was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:38:20 +0200 schreef Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thinking along this line, and considering that music can be compressed with variable bit rates so that the detail goes where it is needed and not where it would be wasted, could image files be saved with

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Bengt Falke
Yes, this is a good idea. Give us a jp4-file format! Anthony Farr wrote / skrev: Thinking along this line, and considering that music can be compressed with variable bit rates so that the detail goes where it is needed and not where it would be wasted, could image files be saved with variable

RE: Compression, was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucas Rijnders Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2006 5:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Compression, was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Op Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:38:20 +0200 schreef Anthony Farr

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
We already have that. It's called shooting tiff or jpeg. Paul On Aug 16, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: One more thing came to my head about what Aaron could like in K10D. What about in-camera RAW development? ;-) Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Tonal gradation in shadows WAS - Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
This should demonstrate why digital photography needs more RD to correct some deficiencies of shadow rendition. The examples are 8 bit for the web of course, so 12 or more bit samples should be somewhat better. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4816986 Regards, Anthony Farr --

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Thibouille
Alpert Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2006 4:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body I'm not much into guessing games, but for those who are, I noticed this post from Aaron earlier today: On Aug 16, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: If you

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2006 8:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body I don't think so. Image quality is important beacsue you will work with it and apply effects. Ifyou

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 17.08.2006, at 12:19 , Paul Stenquist wrote: We already have that. It's called shooting tiff or jpeg. Paul But we have very little control of this ;-) Much more can be done for example in Olympus E-1. Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Richard Day
Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body I don't think so. Image quality is important beacsue you will work with it and apply effects. Ifyou looose information: it is lost, period. Think JPEG vs RAW. You can compress RAW of course... 2006/8/17, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thinking along

was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Roman
What K10D will or will not be, time shows. If it's as good as *istDL, + 11 AF points then its all good + 10Mp gives more space to crop more and compose less during the shooting. http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060814223110 -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Tom C
Lazy... Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:22:40 +0300 compose less

Re: fine art print sizes without cropping (RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/8/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I've never understood this, so maybe somebody could enlighten me. What makes people think they have to crop the image to fit the paper? To my mind it's a brain-upside-down way of thinking, but I've heard and read it so often that perhaps it's me

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/8/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: well, call me old-fashioned, but I think it should be a 'B' setting, LX-style off-the-sensor metering, and no plastic. You're old-fashioned. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 12:31:35PM +0100, Richard Day wrote: Raw rules! But in addition to PEF (if they insist on keeping it), please implement compressed DNG properly with full sized embedded JPEG in-camera as an option. PEF, of course, already includes a full sized embedded JPEG

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
Sounds like you played with a digital camera once, Scott. By the way, my Oly requires about that much work after a battery change. Olympus fixed that problem free under warranty (the capacitive devices that is supposed to maintain power during a battery change were defective), but I bought

Re: was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread John Francis
Nobody is in any doubt that it will be at least as good as the K100D, which is already a step up from the DL. Most of the angst comes from *ist-D shooters like myself - people for whom all the later variants (DS, DL, DS2, DL2, K100D, K110D) have too many drawbacks to be considered as *ist-D

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Richard Day
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: 17 August 2006 17:15 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 12:31:35PM +0100, Richard Day wrote: Raw rules! But in addition to PEF

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Jens Bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af John Francis Sendt: 17. august 2006 18:15 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 12:31:35PM +0100, Richard Day wrote: Raw rules! But in addition to PEF

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Adam Maas
. Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af John Francis Sendt: 17. august 2006 18:15 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread David Savage
Dunno. I've never shot medium format. 4x5 is the best I've used. Dave On 8/18/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on folks - it's not that hard. What makes the 67 superior to almost ANY digital camera - except for resolution? The K10D closes this gap. And - yes - I believe I did

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Richard Day
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: 17 August 2006 17:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Come on folks - it's not that hard. What makes the 67 superior to almost ANY digital camera - except for resolution? The K10D closes

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Patrick Genovese
Francis Sendt: 17. august 2006 18:15 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 12:31:35PM +0100, Richard Day wrote: Raw rules! But in addition to PEF (if they insist on keeping it), please implement compressed DNG properly with full

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Adam Maas
, and great for old fogies like me who's eyesight is failing! Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: 17 August 2006 17:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Come on folks

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Adam Maas
meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af John Francis Sendt: 17. august 2006 18:15 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 12:31:35PM +0100, Richard Day wrote: Raw rules! But in addition to PEF (if they insist

Re: fine art print sizes without cropping (RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
George Eastman seems to have agreed with you, at least his first roll-film camera shot round images. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- David Mann wrote: On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:50 AM,

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Bertil Holmberg
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, I get the digest and it is easy to miss a post... What I would appreciate in a new body is the alternative to look down into the viewfinder. This is possible with the Pentax 67, I believe. I don't think I have seen it in any of todays 35mm DSLRs,

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Richard Day
-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Nope, the Mamiya ZD, Canon 1Ds mkII and Canon 5D have already solved that. -Adam Richard Day wrote: A By big bright viewfinder! Maybe the K10D has a x3 magnifier in the eyepiece that allows you to see the whole area

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Jens, If it was merely resolution, why the heck would Aaron be looking at the K10D instead of a higher-resolution body from Nikon or Canon (Or a Hasselblad or other MF body with a digiback). Aaron specifically said it was something _no_ other DSLR offered yet. And between

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Adam Maas
Bertil Holmberg wrote: Sorry if this has been mentioned before, I get the digest and it is easy to miss a post... What I would appreciate in a new body is the alternative to look down into the viewfinder. This is possible with the Pentax 67, I believe. I don't think I have seen it in

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Bertil Holmberg
A 35-year old memory came to light after my post – TOPCON. I think it was the RE Super that I bought in 1970. It had an interchangeable viewfinder and was a very clean and nice looking camera for its day. Regrettably, I sold it when I bought my LeicaFlex. Well, the view finder is something

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 9:56 PM +0200 8/17/06, Bertil Holmberg wrote: A 35-year old memory came to light after my post - TOPCON. I think it was the RE Super that I bought in 1970. It had an interchangeable viewfinder and was a very clean and nice looking camera for its day. Regrettably, I sold it when I bought my

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Miranda Auto Sensorex EE's (1971 - 1976) have interchangeable viewfinders as well. A very useful feature. A number of cameras did in their time. The Praktiflex, the Praktica VLC, the various Exaktas, and the Contarex Special come to mind. Ralf --

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Eactivist
You know I am getting seriously tempted to jump ship, from Canon back to Pentax. Being able to have AS with ALL lenses is very, very attractive. I only wish Pentax had some good new autofocus telephoto zooms. All the good ones seem to be old ones, and/or manual focus ones. I really like

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Pentax has some very nice new zooms. The DA 12-24/4 is excellent, as is the DA 16-45/4. Some more are on the horizon. I believe one of them is a 50-200/2.8. Paul On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know I am getting seriously tempted to jump ship, from Canon back to

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:42:56PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Pentax has some very nice new zooms. The DA 12-24/4 is excellent, as is the DA 16-45/4. Some more are on the horizon. I believe one of them is a 50-200/2.8. Paul The next two lenses are supposedly an 18-50/f2.8 and a

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/17/2006 7:44:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pentax has some very nice new zooms. The DA 12-24/4 is excellent, as is the DA 16-45/4. Some more are on the horizon. I believe one of them is a 50-200/2.8. Paul I already lust after the 16-45.

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/17/2006 8:34:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The next two lenses are supposedly an 18-50/f2.8 and a 50-135/f2.8 (both rumoured to have in-lens focussing motors of some kind). Beyond that I'm just beginning to hear talk of a 60-250 (probably f4, not

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:26 PM, John Francis wrote: Beyond that I'm just beginning to hear talk of a 60-250 (probably f4, not f2.8). Oh, I want that. Pretty please. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
There you go. Correct information from someone not suffering from old- age short term memory loss:-). Paul On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:26 PM, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:42:56PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Pentax has some very nice new zooms. The DA 12-24/4 is excellent, as is

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 11:37:29PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 50-135 2.8 would be right up my alley. I am sort of planning on waiting to see what new lenses Pentax comes up before I finally decide. (Unless I have to wait too long. :-)) Do you think some of these will be revealed

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 11:29:59PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/17/2006 7:44:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pentax has some very nice new zooms. The DA 12-24/4 is excellent, as is the DA 16-45/4. Some more are on the horizon. I believe one of

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread John Francis
Just someone who tracks the announcements a little more closely. The original Pentax lens roadmap did, indeed, show a 50-200 zoom. In fact it showed two of them; the 50-200/f4-5.6 we've now seen, and a later, more expensive (constant aperture) version. It was only some time later on that the

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
John Francis wrote: The 16-45 is definitely a nice lens; I borrowed one for most of the PDML meet in San Jose (thanks, Bruce!), and it went to the top of my want list. But I'm waiting to see what the 18-50/f2.8 is like, especially since I also want the 12-24 and/or the 10-17 fisheye to give

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/8/06, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed: You've disappeared off the face of the earth! Where have you BEEN? Oh I'm still here. Busy renovating a house, preparing to be self-employed, just the usual stuff ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread DagT
Hey, I already suggested that. They could invert the electromagnetic SR actuators to act as dynamos, and collect energy when the camera is moved but not used .-) DagT Fra: Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know, it doesn't require batteries. :) Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Cotty
My guess is that the mount will be fully backwards compatible - eg no green button kludge. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread David Savage
My guess is it will take pictures. Dave On 8/16/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that the mount will be fully backwards compatible - eg no green button kludge. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread DagT
Fra: Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] After reading the patent file DagT posted, even though I could only get the first page of drawings to download. It seems to me this must be the break through. http://v3.espacenet.com/textdes?DB=EPODOCIDX=US7084915F=0QPN=US7084915 I think the

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Cotty wrote: My guess is that the mount will be fully backwards compatible - eg no green button kludge. Stop looking vaguely towards the north, sir, I am not biting. Kostas (the mechanical actuators are gone) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:36 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: A lens with shutterblades, will allow high shutterspeeds, when using a flash. Nope, I don't have one of those for the 67. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:55 AM, Cotty wrote: My guess is that the mount will be fully backwards compatible - eg no green button kludge. Why would I sell my 67 for that? Honestly, people -- WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF A 6x7?? There really are not that many. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread David Savage
- The sensor is larger than APS-C? - The sensor can be changed buy the user? Those are my best guess's. Dave At 06:46 PM 16/08/2006, you wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:55 AM, Cotty wrote: My guess is that the mount will be fully backwards compatible - eg no green button kludge. Why would

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread DagT
Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:55 AM, Cotty wrote: My guess is that the mount will be fully backwards compatible - eg no green button kludge. Why would I sell my 67 for that? Honestly, people -- WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF A 6x7?? There really are not

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread vic_mortelmans
- Van: Aaron Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, augustus 16, 2006 12:43 PM Aan: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Onderwerp: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:36 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: A lens with shutterblades, will allow high shutterspeeds, when using a flash

RE: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Anthony Farr
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2006 7:14 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body (snip) I think the fairly broad claim 8 gives the best summary on what they are doing

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Anthony Farr
Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body (snip) Honestly, people -- WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF A 6x7?? There really are not that many. -Aaron /pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Way closer. What else? -Aaron -Original Message- From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:04 am Size: 449 bytes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:55 AM

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Jostein Øksne
hmmm... This guessing game is more about which features Aaron treasure most in his 67, than it is about new features in the K10D. My interpretation of the patent link Dag posted is that it looks like a way to reek out noise produced by the sensor, in such a way that it could be implemented at

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Toralf Lund
My guess is that the mount will be fully backwards compatible - eg no green button kludge. Why would I sell my 67 for that? Honestly, people -- WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF A 6x7?? There really are not that many. No grain/noise Yes. Maybe he thinks (application of)

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-16 Thread Aaron Reynolds
PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:59 am Size: 518 bytes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net - The sensor is larger than APS-C? - The sensor can be changed buy the user? Those are my best guess's. Dave At 06:46 PM 16/08/2006, you wrote: On Aug 16

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