Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-21 Thread Miserere
On 19 April 2012 19:02, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list. http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/slrs/samsung_nx20 -- Cheers Brian I said that of the NX10 two years ago. It felt like a Pentax in all the good ways.

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Image Stabilization...NO!!! - forget about it. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 April 2012 19:02, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list.

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-21 Thread Miserere
On 19 April 2012 19:31, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: The only real downside in purchasing a Samsung digital camera is that it would, no doubt, contain a Samsung sensor. Darren, The new Samsung sensor (already found in the NX200) is much better than the old one. It's not at the

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-21 Thread Miserere
On 21 April 2012 11:28, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Image Stabilization...NO!!! - forget about it.  Regards,  Bob S. IS is in some of the lenses. Bob, I like IBIS as much as the next Pentaxian, but let me tell you my practical experience. I'm able to regularly shoot the 30mm

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
I'll have to think about that Miserere. IBIS had a big impact on my photography, especially shooting indoor candids. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 April 2012 11:28, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Image

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would miss having image stabilization. In the lens is okay, but it adds cost over and over again, if you purchase multiple lenses. And since I frequently shoot with longer lenses in low light, I'm a big fan of IBIS. Paul On Apr 21, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I'll have to think

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-21 Thread P. J. Alling
That would kind of depend on the IQ of the sensor. Personally I think the Sony Nex-7 with a KAF adapter module that contains a focusing motor for legacy lenses. It looks like a much cleaner design. On 4/19/2012 7:02 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-21 Thread Miserere
It's all about individual usage, Bob. If I were shooting landscapes hand-held, then I might miss it more, but shooting people (whether indoors or out) I need at least 1/60s shutter speeds to stop movement, and doing that with a 30mm lens means IS would be of no help. If I were using a 60mm or

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-20 Thread Dario Bonazza
Walters Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 1:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built? Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list. http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/slrs/samsung_nx20 -- Cheers Brian

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-20 Thread Dario Bonazza
Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/20/2012 02:02, Brian Walters wrote: Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list. http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/slrs/samsung_nx20 Well, not necessarily. A recent article on Luminous Landscape seems to maintain that EVF dynamic range is so narrow

RE: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-20 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
@pdml.net Subject: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built? Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list. http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/slrs/samsung_nx20 -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-20 Thread Bryan Jacoby
Sure, this is what Pentax should have built instead of the K-01, in a fantasy universe where EVFs are free and this camera doesn't therefore cost several hundred bucks more than a K-01 (and almost as much as a K-5). :) On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-20 Thread Dario Bonazza
EVF + flash Dario -Messaggio originale- From: knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 4:48 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built? If it's mirrorless what's the big bump on top for? cheers, frank What can be asserted

RE: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-20 Thread John Sessoms
-ryan.org Sent: April 19, 2012 4/19/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built? Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list. http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/slrs/samsung_nx20 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-20 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/20/2012 09:23, Dario Bonazza wrote: My reply: Is the K-01 viewfinder better? ;-) Dario Though DxOMarks scores are not absolute truth, it appears that K-01 somehow looses in comparison to K-5. This and opportunity to get a proper focusing screen for manual focusing made me buy (second

Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Brian Walters
Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list. http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/slrs/samsung_nx20 -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 19, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list. http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/slrs/samsung_nx20 The EVIL world is starting to look quite interesting. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Darren Addy
The only real downside in purchasing a Samsung digital camera is that it would, no doubt, contain a Samsung sensor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I wouldn't consider it if it has a Samsung sensor. Is it a pentax k-mount? Paul On Apr 19, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list. http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/slrs/samsung_nx20 -- Cheers Brian

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: The only real downside in purchasing a Samsung digital camera is that it would, no doubt, contain a Samsung sensor. Possibly, but I doubt Samsung has been sitting on its hands wrt sensor design. It will be interesting to read the first in-depth

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Darren Addy
I hate to refer to DxOmark, as it seems to result in a schism of fanatical religious proportions whenever it is mentioned anywhere, but if you want to feel better about your Pentax go to: http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Ratings Then in the camera MFG filter on the right,

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Joseph Tainter
Rangefinder-style mirrorless. Huh? The photo sure looks like a DSLR with a swinging lcd screen. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I wouldn't consider it if it has a Samsung sensor. Is it a pentax k-mount? No - proprietary mount. A non-autofocus K mount adapter is available from Samsung and some third parties also supply them. Cheers Brian

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Darren Addy
There is more to a camera than it's sensor, but I think it is interesting that the only sensors that are rated *higher* than the K-5 (and the 645D which it ties in score) are the Nikon D3X, D4, D800 and some Phase One backs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Is this the Camera Pentax should have built?

2012-04-19 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/20/2012 02:02, Brian Walters wrote: Instead of the K-01 It's now on my short list. http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/slrs/samsung_nx20 Well, not necessarily. A recent article on Luminous Landscape seems to maintain that EVF dynamic range is so narrow that in even in