Damn, looks like I might have to buy one later in the year!
John
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Miller
[mat...@mattdm.org]
Sent: 28 May 2009 01:58
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Confirmed: no K30D ever. The K-7
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From: John Francis
Subject: Re: Confirmed: no K30D ever. The K-7 *is* the K30D.
Just think of the fun you could have with:
o Ultra-sonic motors only the lenses could hear
o Special locking collars
o Different groups of cameras:
Working Group
I'm glad they vetoed the idea, it would have dogged them forever.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/61649-there-will-no-k30.html
The original name for the K-7 was the K30. However, as
It definitely would have been ruff . . .
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From: Gonz rgonzoma...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:08:49 PM
Subject: Re: Confirmed: no K30D ever. The K-7 *is* the K30D.
I'm glad they vetoed the idea, it would have
: Confirmed: no K30D ever. The K-7 *is* the K30D.
I'm glad they vetoed the idea, it would have dogged them forever.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org
wrote:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/61649-there-will-no-k30.html
The original name
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Confirmed: no K30D ever. The K-7 *is* the K30D.
I think it would have been a howl.
On May 28, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
It definitely would
PM
Subject: Re: Confirmed: no K30D ever. The K-7 *is* the K30D.
I'm glad they vetoed the idea, it would have dogged them forever.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org
wrote:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/61649-there-will-no-k30
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/61649-there-will-no-k30.html
The original name for the K-7 was the K30. However, as developement rolled
on, we realized that this camera was much more than a replacement to the
K20D. Therefore, we decided to move to a different
The K20D at BH is now listed as $805.00 Body only, about the same at
Adorama and Buydig too. Looks like the big push to make big sales is
over...
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Which one is the typo? The one in the Subject or the one in the post? ;=))
Jack
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, P. J. Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote:
From: P. J. Alling webste...@mindspring.com
Subject: K30D prices back up to normal
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Friday
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Subject: K30D prices back up to normal
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 9:25 AM
The K20D at BH is now listed as $805.00 Body only,
about the same at Adorama and Buydig too. Looks like the
big push to make big sales is over...
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On 12/12/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
The one in the subject line is the typo, unless I'm sending this through
a time warp...
I must bite my tongue...
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Bleed much?
Cotty wrote:
On 12/12/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
The one in the subject line is the typo, unless I'm sending this through
a time warp...
I must bite my tongue...
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Yes, and you can buy brand new with warranty through Amazon from
Cameta Camera for 809.00 or maybe even less by now. I paid 829 ten
days ago and also got the three year warranty (after contacting
Pentax).
Walt
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:54 PM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: John
Hi All!
I am surprised: am I the only who can see K20D for $789.99 + $10
shipping at Buydig.com and $799.98 +free shipping from Amazon? - both
have been ~ $800 since at least Sunday morning.
Igor
Sun Nov 2 22:54:39 EST 2008
John Sessoms wrote:
KEH has a used K20D LN - $959.
LN = Like
and you'll receive a $100 gift certificate against some future purchase.
Jack
--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K30D
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 9:10 PM
Igor,
Buydig's reputation is pretty unsavory. Check with Google for more info.
Could very well be hidden costs and an unpleasant encounter.
Jack
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K30D
To: PDML@pdml.net
Date: Monday
I love this digital revolution.
In the time I have been wondering about updating the ist D to a K10D, the
K20D came out. Now I have pretty much made up my mind to go for the later
version, this happens.
With film, I could be indecisive for years about the same camera!
Malcolm
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I've bought from BuyDig.com on several occasions. My Epson R2400 came
from them, IIRC.
Good service, quick, no problems, new product.
Godfrey
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am surprised: am I the only who can see K20D for $789.99 + $10
shipping at Buydig.com
:
Igor,
Buydig's reputation is pretty unsavory. Check with Google for more info.
Could very well be hidden costs and an unpleasant encounter.
Jack
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K30D
To: PDML@pdml.net
Date
David J Brooks wrote:
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Find me some rumors that are actually believable, please.
I'v been told wrestling is fake.
Oh, God no! My world is crumbling...
Dave
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Last I checked buydig had it for ~$939 and BH for ~$999 body only. I'm
waiting for a sale...
John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:37:57PM -0800, John Celio wrote:
Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small scratch
on LCD. Make offer!
Well, it's not in
Damn I just looked at BH it's now ~$900. The most local Ritz has a
K10D display, that they're trying to unload for $999. No wonder they
can't sell it.
Joseph McAllister wrote:
On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:44 , John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:37:57PM -0800, John Celio wrote:
The design actually dates from 1966, with very small tweaks and mostly
to the coatings...
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Interesting idea that FA lenses could make a comeback. I assumed they
disappeared because of the mandate for lead-free glass: Changing the
glass formulations would change the
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mark Roberts
I don't think that the sensor size even crosses their mind.
Just my opinion.
You're probably right about the regular consumers. The amateur enthusiasts,
on the other hand, obsess about it more than they should.
You should see the looks i get
It would be nice if Pentax could just keep a presence on the store
shelves. When the K10D was released the afore mentioned Ritz shop had a
prominent Pentax section where it could be easily seen, with a K100,
K110, and a space for the K10, (out of stock, perpetually). Now that
the K20 is out
On Nov 3, 2008, at 10:30, Jack Davis wrote:
Igor,
Buydig's reputation is pretty unsavory. Check with Google for more
info.
Could very well be hidden costs and an unpleasant encounter.
I've never had a bad experience in my handful of interactions with
Buydig.com. Same goes for my
Jack,
As several people on the list wrote, Buydig appears to have a good
record. You can check photo.net community as well.
I personally purchased my DS, and a lens. My DS had to be sent back due
to the problem with the buil-in flash, and I had no problem or hassle
with the return and
BH is as honest as they come. Very good service, no-hassle
replacement of defective merchandise and a large volume of in-stock
equipment. I buy all my cameras and lenses from BH, as do a number of
other list members, and I've never had a problem.
Paul
On Nov 3, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Igor
PN Stenquist wrote:
BH is as honest as they come. Very good service, no-hassle replacement
of defective merchandise and a large volume of in-stock equipment. I buy
all my cameras and lenses from BH, as do a number of other list
members, and I've never had a problem.
Ditto. Just ordered an
can be be slick and
deceptive.
Jack
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K30D
To: PDML@pdml.net
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:55 AM
Jack,
As several people on the list wrote, Buydig appears to have
a good
Nor have I! I actually enjoy rewarding their integrity by giving them what
business I can.
Jack
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K30D
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12
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Subject: Re: K30D
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12:16 PM
PN Stenquist wrote:
BH is as honest as they come. Very good service,
no-hassle replacement of defective merchandise and a large
volume of in-stock equipment. I buy all my cameras
Paul,
I didn't say otherwise. I also purchased some lenses from them.
(I actually don't remember if I purchased my zx-5n from them or from
Adorama.)
While I do not know their standing prior to 1996-1997, my
impression was that somewhere around that time they drastically improved.
Henry Posner
On Nov 3, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
... Of course, you have to be alert with all low-margin mail-order
companies, especially NY/NJ-based, including BH. And the typical
somewhat
rough manner of the customer service-client relation typical to NYC
appears rude to people living,
I agree, through personal experience, that Adorama can be be slick and
deceptive.
Adorama is typically the first company to list new Pentax gear, long before it
is available and before the competition lists new stuff. Then they have been
among the last actually to offer that gear for sale. I
] wrote:
From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K30D
To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:33 PM
I agree, through personal experience, that Adorama can
be be slick and deceptive.
Adorama is typically the first company to list new Pentax
gear, long before
Godfrey,
I fully agree with you.
Still, nothing contradicts the statement that they are a mail-order
company, and in this business their price margin is relatively low.
(Compare it to that of Dell, Circuit City, etc.)
Actually, I am not know if their NYC store (which I've seen many times
from
Prices in the store are exactly the same as what is shown on the
website, but you pay NYC sales tax. Sometimes they have store-only
specials too.
The reference you made was to low-margin mail-order companies, not
mail order companies, which implies companies that are basically box
What Paul said about never having a problem with B+H.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K30D
BH is as honest as they come. Very good service, no-hassle
replacement of defective merchandise
LOL. This is one of those things that New Englanders and New Yorkers
agree on.
They are the premier professional photographic retailer in the United
States, and possibly the world. They may be gruff on the phone but,
hey, I grew up in New York too.
So waddaya want? Pleasantries? Dis is
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Damn I just looked at BH it's now ~$900. The most local Ritz has a
K10D display, that they're trying to unload for $999. No wonder they
can't sell it. Joseph McAllister wrote:
On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:44 , John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forums=1036message=29884084
J
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From: Jack Davis
Subject: K30D
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forums=1036message=29884084
And so it begins...
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Finally some Pentax content. That said I really hope it's the Canon
1.3x crop format, and not a real APS-H format. Just because Canon calls
their 1.3x crop cameras APS-H doesn't make it so.
Canon 1.3x crop sensor ~ 3:2 aspect ratio ~ (27mm x 18mm)
APS-H = 16:9 = 30.2mm x 16.7mm.
If we let
I think you're right and that it would more likely be the Canon crop
rather than a 16:9 frame. In every other way the camera that's
described in D preview would be a significant upgrade. I'm sure the DA
and DA* lenses would cover that image area, and the high frame rate at
6 megapixels
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forums=1036message=29884084
There's really no reason to believe any of it.
It came from a Chinese fansite, as far as I can tell, which means just
another rumor mill, like DPReview's forums. There is also a more direct
translation posted further
All good points. On the other hand, conditions change and not a single
corporate announcement is ever set in stone.
John Celio wrote:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forums=1036message=29884084
There's really no reason to believe any of it.
It came from a Chinese fansite, as far
PN Stenquist wrote:
I think you're right and that it would more likely be the Canon crop
rather than a 16:9 frame. In every other way the camera that's described
in D preview would be a significant upgrade. I'm sure the DA and DA*
lenses would cover that image area, and the high frame rate at
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Find me some rumors that are actually believable, please.
I'v been told wrestling is fake.
Dave
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Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small scratch
on LCD. Make offer!
On Nov 2, 2008, at 08:09 , PN Stenquist wrote:
I think you're right and that it would more likely be the Canon crop
rather than a 16:9 frame. In every other way the camera that's
described in D
Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small scratch
on LCD. Make offer!
Well, it's not in mint condition anymore, and it's about to become obsolete.
I'll give you ten bucks for it.
John ;)
(would, actually, be interested in a used K20)
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll be content to shoot with my K20D for a while and wait until the
truth outs itself!
Agreed. The K20D is working well for everything I do.
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On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:37:57PM -0800, John Celio wrote:
Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small scratch
on LCD. Make offer!
Well, it's not in mint condition anymore, and it's about to become
obsolete. I'll give you ten bucks for it.
John ;)
(would, actually, be
As always, I'll sell my second body, the K10D, and keep my K20D -- with 17,000
exposures. And no scratces:-).
Paul
-- Original message --
From: Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small scratch
on LCD.
On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:37 , John Celio wrote:
Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small
scratch
on LCD. Make offer!
Well, it's not in mint condition anymore, and it's about to become
obsolete. I'll give you ten bucks for it.
John ;)
(would, actually, be interested
On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:44 , John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:37:57PM -0800, John Celio wrote:
Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small
scratch
on LCD. Make offer!
Well, it's not in mint condition anymore, and it's about to become
obsolete. I'll give you
Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small scratch
on LCD. Make offer!
Well, it's not in mint condition anymore, and it's about to become
obsolete. I'll give you ten bucks for it.
John ;)
(would, actually, be interested in a used K20)
Supposedly the price of the K20D
Interesting idea that FA lenses could make a comeback. I assumed they
disappeared because of the mandate for lead-free glass: Changing the
glass formulations would change the refractive index index and render
the old designs unusable.
This is the excuse in some circles (Roland Mabo on dpreview),
On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:44 , John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:37:57PM -0800, John Celio wrote:
Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small
scratch
on LCD. Make offer!
Well, it's not in mint condition anymore, and it's about to become
obsolete. I'll give you
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Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 12:42 PM
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll be content to shoot with my K20D for a while
and wait until
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Three of the current lenses--the 50 and 100 macros and the 200--are the
same as the FA optical designs, or nearly so.
I expect a small difference in refractive index would be enough to
account for or nearly so.
I suspect that the information on this Chinese web site
On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
The market is moving toward full-frame and Pentax has to sink or
swim.
Or continue to do a good job with affordable high resolution APS-C
cameras. Perhaps.
Time and market forces will determine what strategy is best. But given
the current
PN Stenquist wrote:
On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
The market is moving toward full-frame and Pentax has to sink or swim.
Or continue to do a good job with affordable high resolution APS-C
cameras. Perhaps.
Time and market forces will determine what strategy is best. But
Not responding to Mark - just tagging on here:
I don't think 99% of non-pro or extemely enthusiastic amateur comera
buyers have the slightest idea that there is more than one size of
sensor.
I don't think that the sensor size even crosses their mind.
Just my opinion.
gs
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George Sinos wrote:
Not responding to Mark - just tagging on here:
I don't think 99% of non-pro or extemely enthusiastic amateur comera
buyers have the slightest idea that there is more than one size of
sensor.
I don't think that the sensor size even crosses their mind.
Just my opinion.
I'm not sure it even goes as far as a high-end model that is admired.
It's just the name-brand recognition.
My brother in law and my sister for example. They asked me to take
them to a camera store and recommend a SLR to replace his old Nikon
and three lenses, and get my sister a PS. I
I agree. Canon just has brand equity and store placement. They're in
the media and on the shelves. Pentax can't compete there, but Pentax
can offer very good product at a good price and take a nice piece of
the pie. You don't have to be a volume leader to be successful.
Paul
On Nov 2, 2008,
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PN Stenquist
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:07 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K30D
I agree. Canon just has brand equity and store placement. They're in
the media and on the shelves. Pentax
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:37:57PM -0800, John Celio wrote:
Damn... For sale: Pentax K20 D, less than 3000 images, small scratch
on LCD. Make offer!
Well, it's not in mint condition anymore, and it's about to become
obsolete. I'll give you ten bucks
Joseph McAllister wrote:
I'm not sure it even goes as far as a high-end model that is admired.
It's just the name-brand recognition.
Well, yeah. But name-brand recognition is achieved *through* the high
end models, because all the pros use them.
Then you have the camera store sales droids
BH Sunday evening.
K20 D Body only - $899.95
Throw in the 18-55mm lens and call it a kit, $934.95
That's $50 less than it was Saturday evening.
Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian
On Nov 2, 2008, at 19:54 , John Sessoms wrote:
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at
Sorry - forgot That includes a $100 BH Gift Card. So you can spend
another $100 there.
Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time
On Nov 2, 2008, at 19:54 , John Sessoms wrote:
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:37:57PM -0800, John Celio wrote:
Damn...
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