Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Bob Pdml
I'm reading something similar: http://www.manchesteruniversitypress.co.uk/9781526127280/ > On 30 Mar 2019, at 13:05, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > I highly recommend Ian Bremmer, Us vs. Them: The Failure of Globalism: > > > > There are some great insights in Bremmer's work regarding how we

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Cotty! I will fill in details as available. General plan:Train from Paris to London sometime 4 October, from there somehow out to our booked lodging in Shaftesbury. Some by train, some by car? Depart LHR mid-day October 8. Everything in between is to be determined, with some time but by

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I highly recommend Ian Bremmer, Us vs. Them: The Failure of Globalism: https://www.amazon.com/Us-vs-Them-Failure-Globalism/dp/0525533184 There are some great insights in Bremmer's work regarding how we got into this situation. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 30 Mar 2019, at 11:12, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 30/3/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> To me the sensible, democratic way forward is what they should have done >> in the first place. Withdraw article 50 with a binding commitment to re- >> invoke it at the end of a

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 30.03.19 um 12:21 schrieb Steve Cottrell: Tinned Asda chicken tikka and korma I might have to reconsider my vote ;-) Believe it or not but that stuff is still better than what they serve at our Indian restaurants. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 29/3/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >It simply has to. We'll be in Dunkirk over Easter and we'll have to come >over because we're running low on tinned Asda Chicken Tikka and Korma. >Hence, a no-deal on April 12 would be a disaster. Tinned Asda chicken tikka and korma

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 30/3/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed: >To me the sensible, democratic way forward is what they should have done >in the first place. Withdraw article 50 with a binding commitment to re- >invoke it at the end of a consultation and decision-making process. Set >up an independent royal

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 29/3/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Thanks, Cotty. That is an interesting perspective, and just the sort of >thing I was seeking. I might be totally wrong! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News --

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 29/3/19, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: >the plan is to head over from Paris by train. If the trains are still >running... Time and place and we'll come say hello ! -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 29 Mar 2019, at 22:58, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 29.03.19 um 23:19 schrieb Steve Cottrell: > > > ...assuming the lng extension is the de facto outcome of current > proceedings, which I believe will happen > > It simply has to. We'll be in Dunkirk over Easter and we'll have to

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-30 Thread Bob Pdml
Cotty is correct in describing it as "democracy in action", and it's been a long time since we've seen this level of engagement in something, but it need not have been as fraught and close to the wire as it has become. The main cause of the problems, following the idiotic referendum, is that

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Cotty. That is an interesting perspective, and just the sort of thing I was seeking. On this side of the pond, we don't know enough about the issues or the personalities to make any sense of what's happening. The videos of demonstrations in the streets certainly make it clear that

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Stan Halpin
I agree with Ralf. I’m for a long extension to give everyone a chance to take a deep breath and reconsider their priorities. I’m planning on Salisbury & Shaftesbury this October to visit Meg’s relatives, the plan is to head over from Paris by train. If the trains are still running... And

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 29.03.19 um 23:19 schrieb Steve Cottrell: > ...assuming the lng extension is the de facto outcome of current proceedings, which I believe will happen It simply has to. We'll be in Dunkirk over Easter and we'll have to come over because we're running low on tinned Asda Chicken Tikka and

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Steve Cottrell
Hey, it's life Jim, but not as we know it :-) I think what most people (Brits included) fail to understand is that what we are seeing is the parliamentary process. It's our democracy in action. You might think it's broken - I know a lot of people do - but actually it's not. The thing that

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Bob Pdml
Nobody's running anything. I thought that much was obvious. > On 29 Mar 2019, at 15:09, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > I have been trying to follow your latest reality TV show. > > Who is running all of this -- Francis Urquhart or Sir Humphrey Appleby? > > You still have not reached the

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 29 Mar 2019, at 20:01, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > >> Am 29.03.19 um 16:13 schrieb William Robb: >> I thought their was an agreement regarding politics on this forum. > > This isn't politics anymore. It's some kind of surreal comedy to an > extent that even the Belgians are green with

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 29.03.19 um 16:13 schrieb William Robb: I thought their was an agreement regarding politics on this forum. This isn't politics anymore. It's some kind of surreal comedy to an extent that even the Belgians are green with envy. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Ken Waller
Same here. -Original Message- >From: William Robb >Sent: Mar 29, 2019 11:13 AM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers > >I thought their was an agreement regarding politics on this forum. > >On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 9:10 AM D

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There is, Bill, and I'm sorry if I offended you or others. This was intended as a humorous post, rather than a political one, as I had hoped my reference to two of the best Brit Coms would have indicated. I do, however really empathize with what folks in the UK are going through right now.

Re: OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread William Robb
I thought their was an agreement regarding politics on this forum. On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 9:10 AM Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > I have been trying to follow your latest reality TV show. > > Who is running all of this -- Francis Urquhart or Sir Humphrey Appleby? > > You still have not reached

OT: Question for UK PDMLers

2019-03-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have been trying to follow your latest reality TV show. Who is running all of this -- Francis Urquhart or Sir Humphrey Appleby? You still have not reached the American level of political theater, but you are approaching it. My heart goes out to you all. It will, of course, sort itself out