Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
Since when does the fisheye effect need to be obvious or tiresome? Putting modesty aside, I could display for your consideration: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3760021 Rick --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/17/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a fun

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good one! You might consider cloning out the feet and white clothing on the right. But, overall, a very good example of how fisheyes can produce desirable results. Paul On Mar 18, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Since when does the fisheyeoody aside, I could display for your

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread David Savage
G'day Rick, Great shot, but the fisheye effect isn't that obvious. So in that series of yours it isn't tiresome. Dave On 3/19/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since when does the fisheye effect need to be obvious or tiresome? Putting modesty aside, I could display for your

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
That's the point. The fisheye makes some shots work that otherwise wouldn't, but one has to be careful. Rick --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Rick, Great shot, but the fisheye effect isn't that obvious. So in that series of yours it isn't tiresome. Dave On 3/19/06,

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 18, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Since when does the fisheye effect need to be obvious or tiresome? Putting modesty aside, I could display for your consideration: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3760021 Yes, it's a good shot and shows that excellent work not

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread David Savage
On 3/17/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a fun lens, but you will probably want to become familiar with ways to de-fisheye the images. William Robb That's the plan. In general the fisheye effect gets tired quickly. By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif info or

Re: Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread mike wilson
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/17 Fri AM 09:37:50 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT 4 months On 3/17/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a fun lens, but you will probably want to become familiar with ways to de-fisheye the images

Re: Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread David Savage
On 3/17/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the plan. In general the fisheye effect gets tired quickly. Why does there need to be a fisheye effect? http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1/14.htm There doesn't need to be, few of those examples show it though. Dave From

Re: Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Re: OT 4 months Why does there need to be a fisheye effect? http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1/14.htm Not every picture can be so carefully contrived as to hide the lens curvature as some of the ones

Re: Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread mike wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/17 Fri PM 12:52:08 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: OT 4 months - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Re: OT 4 months Why does there need to be a fisheye effect? http

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread E.R.N. Reed
David J Brooks wrote: I told my wife, no camera equipment for 2006. So far i have ordered the D200, bought the Sigma 10-20 and am this close to getting the Tamron 90 macro for the Nikon mounts Damn i hate this list. lol This list is making you buy all that non-Pentax stuff? How? I'm

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: OT 4 months By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif info or DNG file that you wouldn't mind emailing me to practice with? www.komkon.org/~wrobb/IMGP0391.PEF It's a full 13mb file. William Robb

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread David Savage
On 3/17/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: OT 4 months By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif info or DNG file that you wouldn't mind emailing me to practice with? www.komkon.org/~wrobb/IMGP0391

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This list is making you buy all that non-Pentax stuff? How? I'm puzzled ... Just trying to even up the bags.:-) Besides, i confuse easly. Dave

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: OT 4 months Thanks Bill, Very much appreciated. I owe you a drink. Buy John Forbes a drink instead... It evens things out a bit. William Robb

OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread David Savage
G'day All, In early November last year, after I got my FA 80-200 f2.8, I said to myself. Davo mate, no more lenses for 12 months. The DA10-17 is the only lens that has tempted me to break my resolution. But when I was told that the local distributor didn't even know if the were going to import

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: OT 4 months The DA10-17 is the only lens that has tempted me to break my resolution. But when I was told that the local distributor didn't even know if the were going to import it I felt safe. My local camera store kindly offered

RE: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16. mars 2006 23:13 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT 4 months - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: OT 4 months The DA10-17 is the only lens that has tempted me to break my resolution

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: OT 4 months Why de-fish? Why order fish, if you want meat? I'm not trying to be a smartass here. I don't get this. The 10-17 is a fisheye zoom. It's nice and wide, but the fisheye effect gets tired pretty quickly. William

RE: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. mars 2006 00:48 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT 4 months - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: OT 4

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I agree with Tim. I have the Zenitar 16/2.8 fish eye and it's a fun lens for occasional use, but when I want ultrawide and rectilinear, I use the DA14/2.8 which is far superior. I bought the Zeni because it was fishy and would never de-fish it; I had the DA14 already. Godfrey On Mar 16,

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Enjoy it. I almost made my no new cameras for 12 months plan last year ... but I bought the Panny LX1 at Thanksgiving time. Didn't last long: I sold it and bought the Sony R1. I'm pretty much done with Pentax purchases until the DA50-135/2.8 and the new 10Mpixel body are released. With

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread David J Brooks
I told my wife, no camera equipment for 2006. So far i have ordered the D200, bought the Sigma 10-20 and am this close to getting the Tamron 90 macro for the Nikon mounts Damn i hate this list. lol Dave On Mar 16, 2006, at 6:23 AM, David Savage wrote: G'day All, In early November last

RE: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
- From: David J Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. mars 2006 02:32 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT 4 months I told my wife, no camera equipment for 2006. So far i have ordered the D200, bought the Sigma 10-20 and am this close to getting the Tamron 90 macro

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread David J Brooks
I bought my Zenitar after seeing Franks at GFM last year. Bought as a fun lens only, but, its a decent lens non the less Dave Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree with Tim. I have the Zenitar 16/2.8 fish eye and it's a fun lens for occasional use, but when I want ultrawide

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread Mishka
thanks to your hard work, i got one yesterday (together with *istdl) -- i like it quite a bit -- it seems to cover ~ 180deg at 10mm and it's still seriously wide (when defished) even at the long limit. best, mishka On 3/16/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a fun lens, but you

RE: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread David J Brooks
the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: David J Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. mars 2006 02:32 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT 4 months I told my wife, no camera equipment for 2006

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: OT 4 months That's the reason why I never have (and probably never will) owned a fisheye. Why order fish in the first place, when you will convert it to meat later? Feels like a broken record here ;-) It's a lot wider than

Re: OT 4 months....

2006-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: OT 4 months thanks to your hard work, i got one yesterday (together with *istdl) -- i like it quite a bit -- it seems to cover ~ 180deg at 10mm and it's still seriously wide (when defished) even at the long limit. Yer welcome