RE: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Bob W
Refresh your eye-gouging memory with the original photo here: http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=888 I selected all the green (except the green petals/leaves/whatever immediately around the flower) and threw some Lens Blur on it:

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob W wrote: The first is an improvement, but the picture is still rather sudden. I think the brightness of the green overwhelms everything else. You know, sometimes it's best to recognise when you're flogging a dead horse. Part of your workflow should be deciding which photos are worth

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Brian Walters
I definitely prefer the first edit over the original but, as others have mentioned, the green is a bit vivid. Without spending too much more time on the image, it might be worth trying to make the background more subtle. I also like the second edit more than the original. Cheers Brian

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Jack Davis
Also..what Bob/Boris said. For me, the OOF stem makes it virtually irretrievable. Jack --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Doug Franklin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Refresh your eye-gouging memory with the original photo here: http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=888 I selected all the green (except the green petals/leaves/whatever immediately around the flower) and threw some Lens Blur on it:

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
John, The background on the revision is now quite acceptable. Amazing what you can fix in photoshop! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:35 AM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Refresh your eye-gouging memory with the original photo here:

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread P. J. Alling
The first fix looks more like what I'd expect a lens with good OOF characteristics to produce. The second fix has some holga/lensbaby characteristics, i.e. cheap plastic lens look. Either is preferable to the original though I like the non bee point of view, simply because the bee's POV

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 5, 2008, at 0:35, John Celio wrote: Refresh your eye-gouging memory with the original photo here: http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=888 I selected all the green (except the green petals/leaves/whatever immediately around the flower) and threw some Lens Blur on it:

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Ken Waller
Wat Bob said. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits Refresh your eye-gouging memory with the original photo here: http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=888

RE: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Anthony Farr
mix of the blur layer. Regards, Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Celio Sent: Friday, 5 December 2008 5:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits Refresh your eye-gouging memory

RE: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread John Celio
You know, sometimes it's best to recognise when you're flogging a dead horse. I appreciate your advice, but I have actually sold this photo on items from my CafePress store, so there are people out there who like it as it is. I just wanted to find out what fellow photographers thought, rather

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Celio Refresh your eye-gouging memory with the original photo here: http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=888 I selected all the green (except the green petals/leaves/whatever immediately around the flower) and threw some Lens Blur on it:

RE: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-05 Thread Bob W
It's interesting that the response from a photography group like this would be just about the opposite of the responses I got from non-photographers. that's to be expected. With all due respect to flower shots, pretty much anybody with a modicum of photographic expertise could go out and

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-04 Thread John Celio
Refresh your eye-gouging memory with the original photo here: http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=888 I selected all the green (except the green petals/leaves/whatever immediately around the flower) and threw some Lens Blur on it:

Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh - two edits

2008-12-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/4/2008 10:35:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Refresh your eye-gouging memory with the original photo here: http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=888 I selected all the green (except the green petals/leaves/whatever immediately