Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Given the same format proportions, a 9Mpixel sensor is likely about 2440x3660 pixels Not bad! Actual dimensions claimed by Cypress are 2434 x 3710 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0511/05110701cypress9mp.asp :-) I'd describe this as a useful

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the same format proportions, a 9Mpixel sensor is likely about 2440x3660 pixels Not bad! Actual dimensions claimed by Cypress are 2434 x 3710 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0511/05110701cypress9mp.asp I'd describe this as a useful step up from 6

Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What worries me is that Samsung wants the body but not the glass. Though maybe, probably, it's about margin and market niche. Will Pentax get the sensor for Photokina as part of a trade agreement (body access for sensor access)? That would seem a typical arrangement. Yes, 9mp would be a

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Juan Buhler
What do you mean? The pictures on those sites clearly show a rebranded 18-55, as several people pointed out. What makes you say they don't want the glass? j On 12/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What worries me is that Samsung wants the body but not the glass. Though maybe,

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, 9mp would be a significant improvement over 6mp. And if the price is right, 6mp bodies prices will have to drop like bricks. And quickly. Significant is a matter of opinion. Remember that 6 vs 8 Mpixels is an area measurement, not

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What worries me is that Samsung wants the body but not the glass. ... If the camera is using a Pentax KAF mount, I don't know that it matters at all. Folks buying a Samsung branded DSLR that uses Pentax mount lenses will naturally buy

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?) What worries me is that Samsung wants the body but not the glass. Though maybe, probably, it's about margin and market niche. Will Pentax get the sensor for Photokina as part

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?) What worries me is that Samsung wants the body but not the glass. Though maybe, probably, it's about margin and market niche. Will Pentax get the sensor

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?) Yes, 9mp would be a significant improvement over 6mp. And if the price is right, 6mp bodies prices will have to drop like bricks. And quickly. Significant is a matter

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I mean is that you the the 18-55 package but someone else's glass label. That's not Pentax, except perhaps for the package. And that's not a significant photo product by any streach. And why buy Pentax glass given the popularity of the Schneider name? Old-timers know Schneider from the

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Collin, I'd argue that the only people who know the Schneider name are fossils, most likely to buy a digital PS to snap the grandchildren instead of a digi SLR. Regards, Bob S. On 12/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And why buy Pentax glass given the popularity of the Schneider

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?) What I mean is that you the the 18-55 package but someone else's glass label. That's not Pentax, except perhaps for the package. And that's not a significant photo product by any streach

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Juan Buhler
Interesting. You know, I only care about Pentax because that's the mount of the lenses I have. As long as the lenses are good, and relatively state-of-the-art bodies are introduced that will take those lenses, I couldn't care less what name is in them. If, say, Cosina introduced a 12MP K mount

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Glen
At 03:06 PM 12/22/2005, William Robb wrote: If they stay with the 2x3 aspect ratio, approximately 2450 pixels x 3675 pixels. Hardly a huge inprovement in ability to make a larger or higher resolution print. William Robb Yes, but it's enough to meet the minimum requirements of some stock

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:08:30AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, 9mp would be a significant improvement over 6mp. And if the price is right, 6mp bodies prices will have to drop like bricks. And quickly. Significant is a matter

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Mishka
you can make a digital file of *any* (finite) size. best, mishka On 12/22/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:06 PM 12/22/2005, William Robb wrote: If they stay with the 2x3 aspect ratio, approximately 2450 pixels x 3675 pixels. Hardly a huge inprovement in ability to make a larger or

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 22, 2005, at 4:22 PM, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:08:30AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, 9mp would be a significant improvement over 6mp. And if the price is right, 6mp bodies prices will have to drop like

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Glen
At 07:23 PM 12/22/2005, Mishka wrote: you can make a digital file of *any* (finite) size. best, mishka What you suggest is upsizing the image to meet the spec, but that doesn't provide results quite as nice as having a sensor which can actually create a file that large at its native

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Joseph Tainter
Not to mention the fact that the first lens shown is a lightly modified SMC-DA 18-55. -- I wonder if it will have full SMC coating? Or will bypassing that be how Samsung achieves a price advantage? Joe

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Mishka
i know that, but i also think that having a file size requirement is silly. best, mishka On 12/22/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:23 PM 12/22/2005, Mishka wrote: you can make a digital file of *any* (finite) size. best, mishka What you suggest is upsizing the image to meet the

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Glen
I think it's somewhat silly also, but I don't run the stock agencies. I would like to be able to sell some images through them one day, however. take care, Glen At 10:06 PM 12/22/2005, Mishka wrote: i know that, but i also think that having a file size requirement is silly. best, mishka On

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Stock agencies are quite happy with images from 6 megapixel cameras that have been upsized to the stock house's normal size requirement, which is generally about 50 megabytes. If you upsize a RAW when converting, the results are very good. On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:45 PM, Glen wrote:

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: Not to mention the fact that the first lens shown is a lightly modified SMC-DA 18-55. -- I wonder if it will have full SMC coating? Or will bypassing that be how Samsung achieves a price advantage? Joe From the Photo, the coating looks identical to the

Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?)

2005-12-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Glen Subject: Re: Pentax body but not glass? (was Re: Samsung GX-1L?) If they stay with the 2x3 aspect ratio, approximately 2450 pixels x 3675 pixels. Hardly a huge inprovement in ability to make a larger or higher resolution print. Yes, but it's