Poor old nincompoop, thinks it's a Cadillac.
Except it's usually not nincompoop.
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That's not what I know it as.Goes like
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That's not what I know it as.Goes like POOR OLD and so forth.
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On 09/01/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed
On 08/01/08, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed:
The Buy American idea
was intended to keep American workers employed, right?
I think you've hit the nail on the head.
To name a few in this country - Land Rover, Honda, BMW-Mini - all built
by Brits. We gave up owning our own car industry
as we're listing these -
How about
Found On Road Dead.
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Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
Christian
Ken Waller wrote:
First
On Jan 9, 2008 3:56 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We know how to design and build
cars, but we don't know how to treat our employees well so that they do
a good job. We paid the price.
Sounds like some of those managers made it over to the company I used
to work for,
Dave
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Thats basically what i concluded. I'm buying a rocket next time
http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/gallery/titan/titan1.html
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On Road Dead.
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Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
Christian
Ken Waller wrote:
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to keep American workers employed, right?
CW
The BMW was made in Germany :)
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Fucked
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Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
Christian
Ken Waller wrote:
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On 09/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/gallery/titan/titan1.html
That's rocket science.
I like the strap-ons btw.
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I like the strap-ons btw.
Somehow I'm not surprised.
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I like the strap-ons.
MARK! Oh my god MARK!
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Cotty wrote:
I like the strap-ons btw.
MARK!
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That's rocket science.
I like the strap-ons btw.
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Bet ya that tranny works.:-0
Dave
On Jan 9, 2008 10:40 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 09/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/gallery/titan/titan1.html
That's rocket science.
I like the strap-ons btw.
Funny, i figured
it's rather a socialist attitude, so it's not surprising that it has
disappeared from the USA. The general idea is that workers should be
able to afford the product of their labour. Not sure how that makes
for a better world, but there it is.
Incidentally, am I alone in not knowing the rude
On 09/01/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Incidentally, am I alone in not knowing the rude Pontiac thing?
Pull Out Naughty Thing In A Car
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Socialism has nothing to do with it. Capitalism in it's purest form has
the belief that each party should benefit from a transaction.
Mercantilism believes you can, nay _must_ rape your customers and
employees, and get away with it. It's right there in the handbook...
Bob W wrote:
it's
That's not what I know it as.Goes like POOR OLD and so forth.
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On 09/01/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Incidentally, am I alone in not knowing the rude Pontiac thing?
Pull Out Naughty Thing In A
I just find it some what amusing, that GM has known about this 2-3
shift clunk, since the introducton of the exteded cabs, and have yet
to find a fix. I love the drive, look and feel of my GM truck, but
that clunk.
Drives me nuts sometimes. It MAY drive me over to another brand when
this one
John Francis wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:47:06PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Sky's interesting, as it's a straight rebadge of the Opel
Speedster (Same styling and drivetrain) unlike the fairly extensively
modified Solstice (which is based on the Speedster, but not
identical).
I believe it was a home grown abomination.
Christian wrote:
John Francis wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:47:06PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Sky's interesting, as it's a straight rebadge of the Opel
Speedster (Same styling and drivetrain) unlike the fairly extensively
William Robb wrote:
They have as much credibility as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
William Robb
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Utter nonsense. Take a look at the J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction
Index. A number of American brands are right at the top. Quite a bit
ahead of Nissan I might add. I've had six
Christian wrote:
Wasn't the Aztek another Opel derivative?
P. J. Alling wrote:
I believe it was a home grown abomination.
Yeah, I just googled it AFTER I sent my message to the list...
The Aztek had among the highest CSI (Customer Satisfaction Index)
scores in its class, and won the
GM should have given up on attempting styling with the Buick Roadmaster
Stationwagon of 1991-96. Probably they should have given up before
that, but the Roadmaster, (or as I always thought of it the
:Toadmaster, should have capped it).
Christian wrote:
Christian wrote:
Wasn't the
And they're doing good work today. GM car designs come from all over the world.
The newest Cadillacs have won several international awards, and I expect the
Impala will do likewise. The latest Corvette is quite nice as well. Some, like
Pontiac, are targeted at a demographic that is less
I high CSI score only means that the people who bought it like it. From all the
reports I've heard, it was a high quality vehicle. I believe it's the same
platform as the Buick Renegade. Unfortunately, the styling didn't have broad
appeal. I found it butt ugly.
Paul
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Saturn was a market failure and the changes were driven by its
effective elimination from viability by 2003. It is now effectively
the replacement for Oldsmobile in market segment and is selling far
better than it ever did when semi-independant.
-Adam
On 1/8/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Same platform as the even uglier Buick Rendevous. At least the Aztek
looked unique. But owners seem to love the things, ugly as they are.
Very practical vehicle. I'd consider owning one, they get decent
mileage, are surprisingly reliable for a Pontiac, have plenty of
space, some nice features
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The standard service on my car involves an inspection and maintenance
of all the electrical connections, torquing chassis bolts, rotating
the tires, inspecting the brake friction material, changing the oil
and filter, making sure the coolant and hydraulic fluids
Stenquist
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Utter nonsense. Take a look at the J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction
Index. A number of American brands are right at the top. Quite a bit
ahead of Nissan I might add. I've had six Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep
leased
I do all that and more on my 55 BelAir Convertible. I even wash the underside
by hand with Fantastik and rags every 1000 miles or so. But my lease cars get
the oil changed every 20,000 miles, whether they need it or not:-)/ Period. In
truth, I don't do it myself. I go to quick-change oil place,
. And for years, the American brands were
at
the bottom of the list.
Paul
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On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 10:51:16AM -0500, Scott Loveless wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The standard service on my car involves an inspection and maintenance
of all the electrical connections, torquing chassis bolts, rotating
the tires, inspecting the brake friction material, changing
when I was 19 I bought a '73 Mach 1. 351c, C6, 9 positrac (I can't
remember the gearing). The guy I bought it from was into building drag
cars and had done a little work the drive train. Mine had the 2 valve
heads, and I guess there was a problem with mounting a 4 barrel carb on
it. So it
, the American brands
were
at
the bottom of the list.
Paul
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at
the bottom of the list.
Paul
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Utter nonsense. Take
On Jan 8, 2008 11:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Changing ATF is the one that gets me chuckling the most. )
I did not realize Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms needed changing. g
Dave
Paul
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While
I don't know, back when I had the Diesel Escort, the extra
filter at the oil change place was a buck. At the discount
auto parts the first filter was $15 and the second was $11,
addd six quarts of oil and that $24.95 oil change seemed
like a bargain.
Back in the day, my 1980 Pinto's manual
On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:05 AM, graywolf wrote:
I don't know, back when I had the Diesel Escort, the extra
filter at the oil change place was a buck. At the discount
auto parts the first filter was $15 and the second was $11,
addd six quarts of oil and that $24.95 oil change seemed
like a
HAR!
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On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:05 AM, graywolf wrote:
I don't know, back when I had the
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Don't we do this thread every year?
MARK!
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God, I love my bicycle.
Prevert.
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On Jan 8, 2008, at 7:51 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The standard service on my car involves an inspection and maintenance
of all the electrical connections, torquing chassis bolts, rotating
the tires, inspecting the brake friction material, changing the oil
and filter,
Yes, never buy a lease. I just leased a new car the other day, a Jeep Wrangler
4-door soft top. The buy out price isn't all that bad, so I'm thinking I might
buy it when the lease is up. If I decide to do that, I'll take relatively good
care of it. Ten K oil changes in any event. And I'll look
So, in essence, because you don't own the lease cars and pay the
dealer profits up front with the lease, you feel that servicing them
properly is no longer of any importance to you.
That's fine as far as it goes, but it's why I hate to consider buying
second hand cars that have been leased.
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Utter nonsense. Take a look at the J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction
Index. A number of American
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Jan 8, 2008, at 7:51 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The standard service on my car involves an inspection and maintenance
of all the electrical connections, torquing chassis bolts, rotating
the tires, inspecting the brake friction material,
]
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Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
Utter nonsense. Take a look at the J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction
Index. A number of American brands are right at the top. Quite a bit
ahead of Nissan I might add. I've
Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
Utter nonsense. Take a look at the J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction
Index. A number of American brands are right at the top. Quite a bit
ahead of Nissan I might add. I've had six Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep
leased
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Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
Simpler and less to do, of course. I just did mine this morning...
What? I was talking about sex.
Perhaps Godders was as well.
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Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
So, in essence, because you don't own the lease cars and pay the
dealer profits up front with the lease, you feel that servicing them
properly is no longer of any importance
Saturn was a market failure because GM management, after Roger Smith
left the chairmanship, starved if of capitol. The original cars sold
well. Much of like Pentax, Saturn sold as many units as they could
produce, but they could never produce enough units with just one plant,
and no capital
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More nonsense. J.D. Power is completely above reproach. They accept no
bullshit. I know. I've had to deal with them. And for years, the American
brands were at the bottom
William Robb wrote:
Generally, people who lease vehicles treat them with the same respect that
they would give to a disposable diaper.
The amount of respect one shows a disposable diaper is directly related
to the contents of said diaper.
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I just find it some what amusing, that GM has known about this 2-3
shift clunk, since the introducton of the exteded cabs, and have yet
to find
On Jan 8, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
William Robb wrote:
Generally, people who lease vehicles treat them with the same
respect that
they would give to a disposable diaper.
The amount of respect one shows a disposable diaper is directly
related
to the contents of said
On Jan 8, 2008, at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... But I probably won't take it to the dealer. I can still save by
cherry picking the list of scheduled maintenance and having it done
elsewhere. ...
Other merchants locally can change the oil for about $50 ... I don't
have waste
way to know would be to have a chemical analysis of the oil done, but
the cost of that would defeat the savings of 20k intervals.
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I do
a deal on a new Ford? I still have some stock left.
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What's the fastest car in the world?
A lease car.
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Oh I care, I just don't get very excited about it.
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I doubt that he cares. The acronym gags are older then me:-)
Paul
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So, in essence, because you don't own the lease cars and pay the
dealer profits up front with the lease, you feel
If you've owned that many it doesn't say too much about their reliability
:-)
Or he's an old fart like some of us! VBG
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First On Race Day
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You know FORD is actually an acronym...
Found On Road Dead.
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Well
to
not fix it. This isn't rocket science.
Thats basically what i concluded. I'm buying a rocket next time
Dave
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I just
P. J. Alling wrote:
You know FORD is actually an acronym...
Found On Road Dead.
No-one on this white list going to give us the Pontiac one?
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of the oil done, but
the cost of that would defeat the savings of 20k intervals.
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I do all that and more on my 55 BelAir
On quite a lot of cars service during the warranty period is 'free'
(i.e. bundled into the purchase price), so the cheapest option is to
take it to a dealership or authorised service centre (which is also
a good idea if you want to be able to claim on the warranty).
I bought a used lease
Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
Christian
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You know FORD is actually
was made in Germany :)
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Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
Christian
Ken Waller wrote:
First
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Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
Christian
Ken Waller wrote:
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As long as we're listing these -
How about
Found On Road Dead.
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Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
Christian
Ken Waller wrote
My Boxster was made in Finland.
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Bah
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As long as we're listing these -
How about
Found On Road Dead.
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Fucked-Over
on the list
Fucked-Over Rebuilt Dodge
Christian
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You
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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All the mechanicals were the same as the other Ford cars.
I think the bodywork (except for trim) was the same
:55 AM, mike wilson wrote:
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All the mechanicals were the same as the other Ford cars.
I think the bodywork (except
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The engine was used in Lincolns and Mercuries as well. It was a
chamber-in-block V8 of 410 cubic inch
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The engine was used in Lincolns and Mercuries as well. It was a
chamber-in-block V8 of 410 cubic inch displacement. It had
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No, I don't know who designed it. Most Detroit engines of that era
were the work of a number of engineers
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No, I don't know who designed it. Most Detroit engines of that era
were the work of a number of engineers. I believe the first version
wrote:
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All the mechanicals were the same as the other Ford cars.
I think the bodywork (except for trim
The Saturn division originally built very good little cars, a great
first cut on subcompacts. GM simply starved them of money until they
could be made over in the image of the parent company. Now Saturns are
just plastic clad GM extrusions. They build keepers but the fish keeps
rotting
It's China, you see, twenty billion mopeds use a lot of
gasoline. You should have kept them on bicycles and water
buffalo. When they get cars and the Africans get mopeds,
then we are in real trouble.
There are those who say we need to ride bicycles anyway, but
I imagine those people have
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The Sky's interesting, as it's a straight rebadge of the Opel
Speedster (Same styling and drivetrain) unlike the fairly extensively
modified Solstice (which is based on the Speedster, but not
identical).
Wait, you mean the Sky and Solstice aren't the exact same rebadged car?
Are you certain?
Opel has been a GM mark since 1931, apart from brief government
control during the Nazi era. GM initially invested in Opel in 1929,
buying 80%, and bought the rest in 1931. Several Opel designs have
made it over here under different names, starting with the Cadillac
Catera/Saturn L100.
The Sky
Also, Saturn seems to be essentially the US branding for Opel as of
this year, much as Vauxhall is in the UK and some low-end Holdens are
in Australia. All of the current Saturn line are similar or identical
to Opels but manufacture is shared. THe Astra and Sky/GT are
identical, while the Aura and
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Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
I can see you do not have a Harvard MBA. They teach them
that products should fall apart after the warranty runs out
so you can sell them another.
This would be why I have bought exactly
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From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
Now, if GM's Engineers could come up with a decent non clunking tranny
for their extebded cabs, my life would be a heck of a lot better.:-)
You figure after building cars
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From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
I think it failed because of the fact that you couldn't hear or feel a
shift
The CV transmissions have the same characteristics - a littl un-nerving at
first, but something that you
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 07:10:40PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
I think it failed because of the fact that you couldn't hear or feel a
shift
The CV transmissions have the same
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:47:06PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Sky's interesting, as it's a straight rebadge of the Opel
Speedster (Same styling and drivetrain) unlike the fairly extensively
modified Solstice (which is based on the Speedster, but not
identical).
Wait, you mean
Of course you can get the 6 liter 425 horsepower hemi in a Dodge Ram.
Nothing girly about that.
Paul
On Jan 7, 2008, at 7:58 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
Now, if GM's Engineers could
Utter nonsense. Take a look at the J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction
Index. A number of American brands are right at the top. Quite a bit
ahead of Nissan I might add. I've had six Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep
leased vehicles over the last 15 years. None has ever had to spend
even an hour in the
On Jan 7, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
... I've had six Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep
leased vehicles over the last 15 years. None has ever had to spend
even an hour in the dealership. ...
You've never had them serviced? How odd. ]'-)
Godfrey
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