Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-09 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Are the focussing problems occuring using all AF sensor points, or does it also happens if only one is used, for instance the central one? -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-09 Thread Th. Stach
Frits Wüthrich schrieb: Are the focussing problems occuring using all AF sensor points, or does it also happens if only one is used, for instance the central one? -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the end, I concentrated my tests on the central sensor, but the outer ones have shown the

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 05.12.03 19:42, Rüdiger Neumann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on dpreview is a long thread about the focus problem on fast lenses. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1028message=6551761 It is stated, that the AF is not correct for lenses like the FA 1.4/50, FA*1.4/85,

RE: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread Rob Brigham
The problems noted on dpreview actually relate to focus accuracy with distant objects, near infinity. Problems are said to be much more significant there than at closer distances. I used to be so bad at focusssing manually though, that any innacuracy would still be far better than my

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 08.12.03 13:57, Rob Brigham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problems noted on dpreview actually relate to focus accuracy with distant objects, near infinity. Problems are said to be much more significant there than at closer distances. Hmmm... I will test this issue too than, althought I

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread Th. Stach
snip My conclusion is: focusing problems with *istD are exaggerated, it is rather difficult to obtain better results during action manually focusing at shallow DOF, and if you want top focus on stationery object, than you have time to use MF anyway. Enjoy your cameras, taking all these great

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Th. Stach Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link) you're drawing your conclusion based on your sample only. To me, it's an obvious quality-control problem. So please don't tell us, focusing problems with *istD are exaggerated

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Bill, I think that what we're seeing know is what called among my kind - the bleeding edge. This is very first generation of Pentax __new__ AF system. I am fairly sure that what people are observing can be fixed in the program, not in hardware... I hope though that this is nothing more

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread Th. Stach
William Robb schrieb: - Original Message - From: Th. Stach Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link) you're drawing your conclusion based on your sample only. To me, it's an obvious quality-control problem. So please don't tell us, focusing problems

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link) Hi! Bill, I think that what we're seeing know is what called among my kind - the bleeding edge. This is very first generation of Pentax __new__ AF system. I am fairly sure

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Th. Stach Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link) *ROTFL*!!! auto-f... hehe, great! William, normally I'd say 100% ACK but the viewfinder of current DSLRs is like a view through a tunnel. Especially when you're changing back

Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Can *istD test it? (link)

2003-12-08 Thread alex wetmore
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, William Robb wrote: Agreed about that. Unfortunately, this seems to be the way of the world. Of all the APS sensor sized DSLR's I have seen, the ist D seems to have the best one, but for sure, the LX is better. It is the downside of having a smaller sensor. Light is being

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-05 Thread Arnold Stark
Hi Thomas, I am very much looking forward for your report whether and how Pentax will be able to fix the AF accuracy of your *ist D! Arnold Thomas Stach schrieb: I've not only heard of this, I'm experiencing it with my Starkistdee itself. Very annoying. I've tested it with my FA 24, 35, 50

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-04 Thread Thomas Stach
John Francis schrieb: Borrow someone's A*85mm f1.4 and realise the mistake you have made ;-) Buy an istD and 50/1.4 and get a similar fov. I've just heard of some reported problems with the SAFOX VIII auto-focus with lenses wider than f4 max aperture. Apparently the FA

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-04 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
This is the problem I reoprted months ago regarding the Canon dslr units. A local pro with 3 found that all of them focus differently. If Pentax is consistent in its error then that's better than the competition, though not what it should be. My suspicion would lean more toward design, esp. the

RE: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-04 Thread Nicolas Colarusso
I experience this with my MZ-s and F1.4. Camera is great with all other lenses. -Original Message- From: Thomas Stach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 4, 2003 12:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? Hi Alin, my first AF body was an MZ-3 and I never had

RE: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-03 Thread Len Paris
. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SAFOX VIII problems? on 12/02/03 6:22 PM, John Francis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

RE: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I set up the camera to use the center AF point and only focus when I press the button on the back, too. I learned to do that with the C D60. It gives me more control. Focus, compose, shoot. Works great. For me, I find cameras with multiple focus

RE: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Len Paris wrote: I set up the camera to use the center AF point I know the MZ-5n does not feature SAFOX VIII, but this is my usual setting. However, I seem to recall that one one occasion this turned out to focus more slowly than the other one. Kostas p.s.: Bruce, looking

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-02 Thread Stan Halpin
on 12/02/03 6:22 PM, John Francis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just heard of some reported problems with the SAFOX VIII auto-focus with lenses wider than f4 max aperture. Apparently the FA 50/1.4 and 28-70/2.8 are particularly prone to the errors, but the 80-200/2.8 also shows some

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-02 Thread Herb Chong
i have only one lens that doesn't fit into the category. all work more or less the way they are supposed to. macro focusing in dim light is a bit tricky, but i find the *ist and *istD focus faster and lock on more of the time than my ZX-5n ever did. Herb... - Original Message - From:

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-02 Thread arnie
i got the istD with the fa 50 1.4 and 135 2.8 on the 135 the autofocus is so fast i barely even notice it happening. btw. i set the istD to only focus when i press the AF buttom on the back, cause too many of my shots were mis-focused. also on my previous and now backup film camera - a zx-5n -

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-02 Thread John Francis
on 12/02/03 6:22 PM, John Francis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just heard of some reported problems with the SAFOX VIII auto-focus with lenses wider than f4 max aperture. Apparently the FA 50/1.4 and 28-70/2.8 are particularly prone to the errors, but the 80-200/2.8 also

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-02 Thread Fred
I've just heard of some reported problems [snip] Where did you hear of these problems, John? Fred, K1FW

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-02 Thread John Francis
I've just heard of some reported problems [snip] Where did you hear of these problems, John? Fred, K1FW I was alerted to them when I got back in touch with the guy who sold me my 80-200/2.8; he claims he has demonstrated the problem on no less than 14 different *ist-D bodies!

Re: SAFOX VIII problems?

2003-12-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
There are some ongoing threads on DPReview about the issue. The last I had read, no definite conclusions had been drawn. I had asked if anyone was seeing the same problems with a film *ist or MZ-S, wondering if it were a general AF problem, problem with SAFOX VIII or specific lenses. Guess I'll