Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Christian wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Thanks! I have 11 magazine covers now. I think that's all of them. Anyone want to see 'em all on a web page? YES! Please! http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlmags.htm I need some help to identify both the magazine cover designers and the original image

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlmags.htm I need some help to identify both the magazine cover designers and the original image photographers. Fun project. I supplied (inadvertantly

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-22 Thread David Savage
Dario did the Blur cover IIRC. Dave On 3/22/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Thanks! I have 11 magazine covers now. I think that's all of them. Anyone want to see 'em all on a web page? YES! Please!

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-21 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Boris thanks for commenting on my snow photos, I'm with you with your critics ;-) (But the woman with the dogs is a man, that's partly why I liked that snapshot) This list has inspired me to still test drive all of my equipment, I will start with the Tamron SP 500 mirror lens for a roll of

RE: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-21 Thread Markus Maurer
@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/20 Mon AM 12:26:32 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography Markus try this site http://www.birdsasart.com/ Arthur

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-21 Thread Markus Maurer
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:21 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography Markus, My Tokina zoom suggestion is more practical than optical. Its weight is not much different from the Pentax 70-210/4 in that they're both basically

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert wrote: On 20 Mar 2006 at 16:31, Christian wrote: I had them all at one point, but can't seem to find them now... :-( I just had a dig through my archives: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/mag_covers.zip Thanks! I have 11 magazine covers now. I think that's all of them.

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-21 Thread Francis
Hi Markus, I'll preface this by saying that I've only had an SLR for less than four years and am far from being an expert on the subject. I have taken a lot of bird photos in that time though, and none of them were taken with lenses longer then 200mm (here are some recent ones

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-21 Thread Christian
Mark Roberts wrote: Thanks! I have 11 magazine covers now. I think that's all of them. Anyone want to see 'em all on a web page? YES! Please! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-21 Thread Markus Maurer
of the 1.2 :-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:22 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography Hi Markus, I'll preface this by saying that I've only had an SLR

Re: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread mike wilson
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] And just to make Mike Wilson cringe: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-2 8-) Takes _much_ more than that. 8-))) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread Toine
Markus, Maybe a Beroflex 500mm. 60-70 euro's on ebay. In germany they call it wundertute. If you want one contact me off-list. Toine On 3/20/06, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pentaxians I do not have a real tele lens for bird photography but would like to try to get some cormorant

Re: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread mike wilson
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/20 Mon AM 12:26:32 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography Markus try this site http://www.birdsasart.com/ Arthur Morris is acknowledged as one of the leading bird photographers

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
to wait for a really bright day. Shoot even on partly cloudy days. Collin At 11:17 PM 3/19/2006, you wrote: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 03:42:06 +0100 From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography Message-ID: [EMAIL

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread John Bailey
How well do the lenses perform on the sensor compared to film as far as CA effects and/or pixel blooming? I made some DS2 exposures with my 1.4x tx + 300/8 vivitar this last Saturday of herons nesting in Sycamore trees in the Cuyahoga Vally National Park in NE Ohio. The lcd review showed alot

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 20/3/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Christian. Your cormorant is, breathtaking. Where's the Cormorant Times disappeared to?? http://www.robertstech.com/temp/cormorant-times.jpg I have a few of the other magazine covers, too. Anyone kept track of them? (I might be

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread Christian
Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 20/3/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Christian. Your cormorant is, breathtaking. Where's the Cormorant Times disappeared to?? http://www.robertstech.com/temp/cormorant-times.jpg I have a few of the other magazine covers, too. Anyone

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Mar 2006 at 8:22, John Bailey wrote: How well do the lenses perform on the sensor compared to film as far as CA effects and/or pixel blooming? I made some DS2 exposures with my 1.4x tx + 300/8 vivitar this last Saturday of herons nesting in Sycamore trees in the Cuyahoga Vally

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Mar 2006 at 16:31, Christian wrote: I had them all at one point, but can't seem to find them now... :-( I just had a dig through my archives: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/mag_covers.zip Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread John Bailey
Thanks! --- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 Mar 2006 at 8:22, John Bailey wrote: How well do the lenses perform on the sensor compared to film as far as CA effects and/or pixel blooming? I made some DS2 exposures with my 1.4x tx + 300/8 vivitar this last Saturday of

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-20 Thread Jens Bladt
: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. marts 2006 00:48 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography On 20 Mar 2006 at 16:31, Christian wrote: I had them all at one point, but can't seem to find them now... :-( I just had a dig through my

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would try both the Tamron mirror lens and the M 200/4 coupled with the A2X converter. Or sell them all and buy an A 400/5.6. The latter is a very good lens that is frequently available for only $300 or slightly more. It will focus close enough to allow full frame bird shots. I don't think

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Christian
The real question is How much are you willing to spend? For a something in the order of US$300 - US$500 you can get a Sigma 300/4 or 100-300/4 which is a damn good lens for the money. For somewhere over US$1000 you might be able to find a Pentax F, or FA 300/4.5 or maybe an A* 300/4. All

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Markus Maurer
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:13 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography I would try both the Tamron mirror lens and the M 200/4 coupled with the A2X converter. Or sell them all and buy an A 400/5.6. The latter is a very good lens

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Markus Maurer
@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography The real question is How much are you willing to spend? For a something in the order of US$300 - US$500 you can get a Sigma 300/4 or 100-300/4 which is a damn good lens for the money. For somewhere over US$1000 you might

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Christian
Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Christian - the real bird man I hoped to get an answer from you and I understand your recommendations and conclusion very well. But frankly, I not convinced that I am really into bird or wildlife (in Switzerland ;-) photography in the longer run but more into landscape

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
Markus try this site http://www.birdsasart.com/ Arthur Morris is acknowledged as one of the leading bird photographers in the US. The answer to your lens question depends alot on how close you can get to the birds. I have a 600 and yet that isn't enough for some bird I've tried to

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Øsleby
. mars 2006 01:06 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Christian - the real bird man I hoped to get an answer from you and I understand your recommendations and conclusion very well. But frankly, I not convinced

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Tim Øsleby
) -Original Message- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20. mars 2006 01:06 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Christian - the real bird man I hoped to get an answer from you and I understand your

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
And just to make Mike Wilson cringe: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-2 ...and everyone else Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Christian

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Christian
Tim Øsleby wrote: Christian. Your cormorant is, breathtaking. http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-2 Thanks! And keeping this on-topic with the current thread... This particular shot was an extreme example: Sigma 300/4 with 2x and 1.4x TCs stacked on the *ist D.

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Try Tokina. 80-200/2.8 from $200 to $300 400/5.6 commonly $200 And for something more novel and still inexpensive, check out some less-common 300mm mirror lenses with a T mount. Then use a good 1.4x to keep a quality picture. Collin At 06:21 PM 3/19/2006, you wrote: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Markus Maurer wrote: I do not have a real tele lens for bird photography but would like to try to get some cormorant shots soon and therefore seek for your advice: Don't let Cotty see the shots when you're done ;-)

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Markus Maurer
Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:06 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography Try Tokina. 80-200/2.8 from $200 to $300 400/5.6 commonly $200 And for something more novel and still inexpensive, check out some less-common

RE: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Markus Maurer
What happened to Cottyzine, the fishermen's dream magazine? Should I change to Frank's flying rats instead? greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 3:28 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which tele lens

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Which lens or combination would be the best for that task, I know that all of the combinations will be rather slow? a very old Soligor 350mm F 5.6 M42 tele Tamron SP 70-210 3.5-4 + Tamron SP 1.4 or Tamron SP 2x converter Pentax M 200mm + Pentax A 2xS converter Pentax A70-210mm + Pentax

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Cotty
On 20/3/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: Christian. Your cormorant is, breathtaking. Where's the Cormorant Times disappeared to?? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Which tele lens for poor mans bird photography

2006-03-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/3/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Don't let Cotty see the shots when you're done ;-) Too late, I'm watching :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _