Re: Big Prints: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length..........

2008-06-29 Thread Christine Aguila
: Sensor resolution V focal length.. - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. It's been many years since I made a giant enlargement, and only ever type C or silver gelatin, never inkjet. I don't miss doing them

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2008-06-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: Big Prints: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. William: Great story! You should write that up try to publish the story in an appropriate magazine. Cheers, Christine One of these days, I'll subject you

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2008-06-28 Thread Anthony Farr
don't miss doing them. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2008 1:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. - Original

Big Prints: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length..........

2008-06-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Anthony Farr Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. It's been many years since I made a giant enlargement, and only ever type C or silver gelatin, never inkjet. I don't miss doing them. I friend and I were going through the old stock

Re: Big Prints: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length..........

2008-06-28 Thread Walter Hamler
with a drain. That was when I discovered that hypo would cure atheletes foot! Walt On 6/28/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. It's been many years since I made a giant

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2008-06-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Walter Hamler Subject: Re: Big Prints: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. God, Bill!! Thanks for the great laugh! In the common usage, Been there, done that! I worked as a late teen, before joining the Navy, for an industrial photographer

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2008-06-28 Thread Jos from Holland
On top: if lens resolution (number of line per mm) is in same order of magnitude as the number of pixels / mm on the sensor. The lens has the huge advantage the the lines can be at any place even diagonally, but the pixels have discrete position making the pixels/mm much less effective, this

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2008-06-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell
a 10mP sensor image. JC OCONNELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jos from Holland Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 2:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. On top: if lens

Re: Sensor resolution V focal length..........

2008-06-28 Thread Jos from Holland
: Saturday, June 28, 2008 2:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. On top: if lens resolution (number of line per mm) is in same order of magnitude as the number of pixels / mm on the sensor. The lens has the huge advantage the the lines can

Sensor resolution V focal length..........

2008-06-27 Thread John Wittingham
I'm in need of some longer glass, longer than 300mm. It occured to me the other day that the crop of a given area of a frame would be consirerably bigger the more resolution you have from the sensor of the camera viewed at 100%. So I'm thinking 400mm on the K10D would be approximately 33%

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2008-06-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Of John Wittingham Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:59 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Sensor resolution V focal length.. I'm in need of some longer glass, longer than 300mm. It occured to me the other day that the crop of a given area of a frame would be consirerably bigger the more resolution

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2008-06-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
John, You are on the right track but it's a bit early (AM) to discuss this for my brain. The 100% crop from a 400mm will be bigger than the same photo with a 300mm. (Need geometry/trig to figure by how much exactly...) With the K20D vs the K10D, the 400mm will give you 14 megapixels instead of 10.

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2008-06-27 Thread Anthony Farr
for this view is when performing some editing functions, and for pixel peeping. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Wittingham Sent: Friday, 27 June 2008 8:59 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Sensor resolution V focal

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2008-06-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
fl lens. JC OCONNELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Farr Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:03 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. The crop will be the same from

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2008-06-27 Thread Adam Maas
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Farr Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:03 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. The crop will be the same from K10d to K20d, because the crop factor is related to the sensor dimension

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2008-06-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. That is correct, there will be no resolution loss if you use a K20D with a shorter lens and crop down to the equivalent of the K10D with the longer lens. Sensor size does not determine resolution at all (unlike with film). Pixel

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2008-06-27 Thread John Wittingham
Mail List' Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. Are you trying to say that there will be no resolution loss in using a K20D with a shorter lens vs a K10D with a longer lens if the AOV of the image is kept the same via cropping the K20D image? The REAL sensor size of the 2 cameras

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2008-06-27 Thread Anthony Farr
;-) Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: Friday, 27 June 2008 10:18 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. Are you trying to say

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2008-06-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
at the same distance in each case? Regards, John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 June 2008 13:18 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length

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2008-06-27 Thread P. J. Alling
June 2008 13:18 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. Are you trying to say that there will be no resolution loss in using a K20D with a shorter lens vs a K10D with a longer lens if the AOV of the image is kept the same via cropping the K20D image

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2008-06-27 Thread John Wittingham
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 June 2008 14:43 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. If your crops were of the same dimension in pixels and the framing on the bird was the same

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2008-06-27 Thread Anthony Farr
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Wittingham Sent: Friday, 27 June 2008 11:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. Thanks for the responses, OK I think I need to re-word this altogether, Pentax K10D 10.2 Megapixels fitted with 400mm

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2008-06-27 Thread John Wittingham
Of Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 June 2008 14:56 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. John, Put the 400mm on the K20d and solve all your problems at once ;-) But seriously, no one can tell you what will be acceptable to you. You'll have to set

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2008-06-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Anthony Farr Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. You wouldn't print at 100%, the only practical use for this view is when performing some editing functions, and for pixel peeping. Often, I print at well over 100%. One of my favourites

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2008-06-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:43 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. If your crops were of the same dimension in pixels and the framing on the bird was the same, the K20D and 300 would yield a slightly larger print

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2008-06-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. If the the resolution of the lenses (and all other optical qualities as well), were equal, and assuming that both lenses met or exceeded

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2008-06-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 June 2008 14:43 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. If your crops were of the same dimension in pixels and the framing

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2008-06-27 Thread John Francis
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length.. Are you trying to say that there will be no resolution loss in using a K20D with a shorter lens vs a K10D with a longer lens if the AOV of the image is kept the same via cropping the K20D image

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2008-06-27 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nope, the lenses would have to have infinity resolution for the smaller sensored camera (cropped K20D)to match the image resolution of the full K10d image. There are no infinite resolution lenses. Wouldn't the lense merely have to have sufficient

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2008-06-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Subject: Re: Sensor resolution V focal length.. J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nope, the lenses would have to have infinity resolution for the smaller sensored camera (cropped K20D)to match the image resolution of the full K10d image. There are no infinite resolution lenses

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2008-06-27 Thread Doug Franklin
William Robb wrote: Often, I print at well over 100%. One of my favourites at the moment is a 16x48 inch panoramic from an istD file. The final file is 5760 x 14206 I'm on board with that. I haven't upgraded from the K10D to the K20D and I often shoot with long focal lengths (200-400mm)