Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-12 Thread Thibouille
Wanted to explain in another way, if it wasn't clear enough. I understood well a while ago, but wasn't sure it was clear enough to everybody. And your point is??? William Robb -- -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...

Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Unca Mikey
A quick question, something I am curious about -- I've read a lot here about the compatibility of older lenses on newer bodies, but what about the other way? Specifically, on film bodies without a thumbwheel (MZ-S, ZX-5n, etc), how do you change the aperture when the lens is set on A or the

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread David Oswald
Unca Mikey wrote: A quick question, something I am curious about -- I've read a lot here about the compatibility of older lenses on newer bodies, but what about the other way? Specifically, on film bodies without a thumbwheel (MZ-S, ZX-5n, etc), how do you change the aperture when the lens

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Jon Myers
I believe most of the newer film SLRs aside from the *ist and ZX-30/50/60 assume you want to be in program or shutter priority if the lens is set to A or lacks manual settings. The old bodies that don't utilize the A setting pretty much can't use a lens that doesn't have manual aperture

RE: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Tom C
I think you've answered your own question Tom C. From: Unca Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Setting aperture -- film SLRs Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:41:08 -0500 A quick question, something I am curious about -- I've

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
To expand on Tom's ellipsis: On film bodies without an aperture control thumbwheel, you take the lens aperture ring off the A setting and use the aperture ring. For lenses that do not have an aperture ring, those bodies without aperture thumb wheels can control the aperture using Program

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 4/11/06, Unca Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Specifically, on film bodies without a thumbwheel (MZ-S, ZX-5n, etc), how do you change the aperture when the lens is set on A or the lens does not have an aperture ring? Is there a way to directly change the aperture on the body? I assume you

RE: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Unca Mikey
I did? I was afraid I suspected the answer, but wasn't sure. All I know about Pentax bodies between the Spotmatic and the *ist I've read on the internets, and we all know how reliable they can be. Thanks David and Jon for the info. That makes the design of the *ist 35mm even more curious --

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:49:29 +0200, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unca Mikey wrote: A quick question, something I am curious about -- I've read a lot here about the compatibility of older lenses on newer bodies, but what about the other way? Specifically, on film bodies without a

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 11, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: Are such lenses even usable on older bodies like the MX? The MX is manual only. Lenses set on A and lenses without aperture rings can only be used wide open. Fully stopped down, not wide open. Wide open would be easier for hand holding;

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 12:55:12PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Are such lenses even usable on older bodies like the MX? The MX is manual only. Lenses set on A and lenses without aperture rings can only be used wide open. I believe lenses set on A will behave as if set to f22 (although

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:00:08 +0200, Unca Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That makes the design of the *ist 35mm even more curious -- once one becomes used to that mode of operation and those lenses, the migration path is not to other film SLRs, but to a digital SLR! Fiendishly clever! G

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:11:25 +0200, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 11, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: Are such lenses even usable on older bodies like the MX? The MX is manual only. Lenses set on A and lenses without aperture rings can only be used wide open.

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 4/11/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 11, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: Are such lenses even usable on older bodies like the MX? The MX is manual only. Lenses set on A and lenses without aperture rings can only be used wide open. Fully stopped down,

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 11, 2006, at 10:26 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:11:25 +0200, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 11, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: Are such lenses even usable on older bodies like the MX? The MX is manual only. Lenses set on A and

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Thibouille
There are several Z- and MZ- (PZ- and ZX-, if you wish) bodies that allow control of the aperture from the body. I am sure of the MZ-50, the Z-1 and Z-1p. Z10 doesn't (well it is a P and M only camera). Z20, Z50, Z70 will also control the aperture from the body. I suspect it couls also true

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Jon Myers
I believe that is a fair prediction based on what I've seen with my cameras. Pentax manuals do state that using the A setting on a body that doesn't support it will result in incorrect metering. As the aperture ring is closed down to A, the aperture simulator tab on the mount continues to go past

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Thibouille
It depends on the lenses I think. Sometimes A equals 22, sometimes 32 ( or aperture is unreliable, you chose :). I guess that a lens showing 22 then A. You put that lens on your any *ist or Z1 etc in AV mode. If you can select 32, than A equals 32. Simple enough ;) On 4/11/06, Jon Myers [EMAIL

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Unca Mikey wrote: A quick question, something I am curious about -- I've read a lot here about the compatibility of older lenses on newer bodies, but what about the other way? Specifically, on film bodies without a thumbwheel (MZ-S, ZX-5n, etc), how do you change the aperture when the lens

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Jack Davis
You're MZ-S assumption is correct. Jack --- E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unca Mikey wrote: A quick question, something I am curious about -- I've read a lot here about the compatibility of older lenses on newer bodies, but what about the other way? Specifically, on film

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Unca Mikey Subject: Setting aperture -- film SLRs A quick question, something I am curious about -- I've read a lot here about the compatibility of older lenses on newer bodies, but what about the other way? Specifically, on film bodies without

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread Thibouille
aperture -- film SLRs A quick question, something I am curious about -- I've read a lot here about the compatibility of older lenses on newer bodies, but what about the other way? Specifically, on film bodies without a thumbwheel (MZ-S, ZX-5n, etc), how do you change the aperture when the lens

Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs

2006-04-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: Setting aperture -- film SLRs Yeah, so.. say you have a DA 14mm. You can use it on a SuperA/SuperProgram in either TV or P mode. Of course it won't cover the full 24x36 frame but that's another story ... And your point