Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Christine - wel think a lot alike on these things... I would be unlikely to shoot more than 200 either and would, like you probably rather have more 8 gb cards than one 32 normally. Though in the situation I'll be in, with not a lot of time to chimp - and being all thumbs .. what I might do

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/11/2013 00:48, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I couldn't imagine taking more than

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
, 2013 9:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I

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2013-07-11 Thread John
On 7/11/2013 12:21 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Great news, Ann. You're going to enjoy your new camera. The only thing I can suggest is that you shoot extensively with K-5 before you do any serious work (such as your friend's wedding) with it. It has very different rhythm than *istD (or K10D for

RE: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Gerrit Visser
As long as Elements 5.0 can read DNG you will be fine. K5 doesn't output PEF's Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:45 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled full

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2013-07-11 Thread Gerrit Visser
Please ignore, just found that setting -Original Message- From: Gerrit Visser [mailto:gerrit...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:54 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: soon to be enabled As long as Elements 5.0 can read DNG you will be fine. K5 doesn't output

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/11/2013 00:48, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013, Walt wrote: On 7/10/2013 11:48 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I

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2013-07-11 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: full disclosure time, I only have ELEMENTS 5.0 and it happily allows me to open PEF's and it does pretty much all I've asked it to do so I don't plan on changing what I'll be processing with. Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/11/2013 09:12, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/11/2013 00:48, Aahz Maruch wrote: Aahz I'm not bringing a card reader to the wedding - its 30 minutes from my apartment by train, 10 by cab. :-) If I were going back to Alaska, you bet I'd bring lots

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? ann On 7/11/2013 09:19, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: full

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2013-07-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Walt, check for a tiny sliver of plastic broken off from an SD card during an earlier insertion. Some SD card brands have thin plastic ridges around the SD card's contacts. These are fragile and break off, usually in your SD slot or a card reader. Very poor design! I've experienced this in both

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread John
For the K5's raw file size, 16 GB cards might offer the best compromise between capacity, cost redundancy (eggs/baskets). On 7/11/2013 8:14 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Christine - wel think a lot alike on these things... I would be unlikely to shoot more than 200 either and would, like you

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Ann, for the quality of your final image: no practical difference. RAW is RAW. No lossy compression is used. One practical difference is how well compressed the RAW files are, and that affects your long-term file storage. Makes a difference when you have fifty thousand of them. Pentax created

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? That doesn't matter much. I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? The difference is

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2013-07-11 Thread Jack Davis
of 8 gb ( maybe a couple 16's) for my use. Looking forward to news of your experience. Jack From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:14 AM Subject: Re: soon to be enabled Christine - wel

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/11/2013 09:40, Bruce Walker wrote: Ann, for the quality of your final image: no practical difference. RAW is RAW. No lossy compression is used. good. One practical difference is how well compressed the RAW files are, and that affects your long-term file storage. Makes a difference when

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread John
On 7/11/2013 8:20 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/11/2013 00:48, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread John
On 7/11/2013 9:53 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Pentax created PEF is not as well compressed as Pentax created DNG which is not as well compressed as Adobe created DNG. So for best compression, create PEFs in camera then convert to DNG when importing into Lightroom or ACR. what is ACR? just

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Paul Sorenson
Ann - See my off-list message. -p On 7/11/2013 8:29 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: so from a practical aspect, what is the difference if when I output from elements I'd be making are 300 ppi jpgs ? or pngs? I have no experience at all with DNGS... anyone want to school me briefly? ann On

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2013-07-11 Thread Walt
Hmm. I hadn't thought of that. It just always feels like the rubber gasket is snug and kind of impedes the ejection. I sort of came to view it as a feature rather than a bug (good sealing vs. ease of removal), and that my stubby fingers and nails were more the source of the problem than the

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2013-07-11 Thread steve harley
on 2013-07-11 6:44 Ann Sanfedele wrote Many of you know I'm running Windoze XP on a dell dimension that is about 7 years old. All my photos go on the 1 terrabit external drive. Just an fyi if that affects anything, changes any advice - etc. just a thought, this gig might be worth ensuring the

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2013-07-11 Thread P.J. Alling
back. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy

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2013-07-11 Thread P.J. Alling
The only difference between DNG and PEF from your perspective is the file extension, and the fact that your version of ELEMENTS can open the K-5 version, other than that nothing. The K20D and earlier cameras exported DNG files that were 30-40% larger than PEF files, that's the only reason

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2013-07-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Steve they will be on the card and my harddrive - then on a memory stick for the groom AND on smugmug... I have unlimited storage space on Smugmgu, pretty much But of course you are right :-) ann On 7/11/2013 14:30, steve harley wrote: on 2013-07-11 6:44 Ann Sanfedele wrote Many of you know

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Thanks PJ for this, and the other mail about pefs and dngs important info - will do DNGS for sure then YOu guys are much too worried about how much space I have, I think. ann On 7/11/2013 14:39, P.J. Alling wrote: The only difference between DNG and PEF from your perspective is the file

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread P.J. Alling
Well Ann, you're going to get a huge increase in real resolution, and the files will tax your computer's capabilities. Now that you've got good eyes, you can enjoy it. You might want to check out buydig for a new K-5. They're selling for less than S100 more there than KEH is asking for good

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote: Well Ann, you're going to get a huge increase in real resolution, and the files will tax your computer's capabilities. Now that you've got good eyes, you can enjoy it. You might want to check out buydig for a new K-5. They're selling for less than

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Zos Xavius
Wow. Forget buying another k-7. If I just wait a little while a k-30 or even k-5 will be cheap enough to consider as a backup. Either would be a step up in IQ. The focus peaking on the k-30 intrigues me too. Too bad the engine is only 12-bit. :( On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Aahz Maruch

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2013-07-10 Thread Stan Halpin
Congratulations - you'll enjoy your new gadget! As far as numbering, I don't change the file number, but I do add to it. I started getting confused, well, more confused, about the time I had three different IMPG-2132 files and decided it was time for a new strategy. On import, files are

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2013-07-10 Thread Paul Sorenson
Congratulations on getting the K-5. To paraphrase the Men's Wearhouse guy...You're gonna like the way it works...I guarantee it I still shoot PEFs and let Lightroom convert to DNG upon import as the Adobe conversion gives a slightly smaller file size. If I think I'll need a quick turnaround

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2013-07-10 Thread Philip Northeast
Ann I get Lightroom to add the date to the start of each file name so it makes it easier to find pictures taken on a particular occasion. I only use raw, dng version. I you need a jpeg on site you can always process it individually in the camera. I normally leave the AWB alone and do any

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Everyone - This is what I ordered from KEH tonight http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Digital-Camera-Bodies/1/sku-DP029991177660?r=FE# ... then got and email saying they wouldnt take my credit card money until they saw that they have the item in stock for sure. (tomorrow) fingers crossed ...

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, right? How many angels fit on the

RE: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Gerrit Visser
only before our last trip and ain't going back. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: soon to be enabled P.s. to my earlier response... Christine

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2013-07-10 Thread John
I made a quick on-line search, and it looks like you can get 2 - good quality 32GB Class 10 SDHC cards for slightly less than the cost of a single 64GB SDXC Class 10 card of the same quality. I'm not sure where BH is located in relation to where Ann lives, but if I'm calculating it correctly it

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2013-07-10 Thread Rick Womer
#__), and processing is simple from that point. Cheers, Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:09 AM Subject: soon to be enabled I good firend

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2013-07-10 Thread John
Maybe not the best comparison, since he got fired last month. ;-D On 7/10/2013 8:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Congratulations on getting the K-5. To paraphrase the Men's Wearhouse guy...You're gonna like the way it works...I guarantee it I still shoot PEFs and let Lightroom convert to DNG upon

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Christine Aguila
On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any thing that makes noise, too! I'm thinking of only shooting in

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Great news, Ann. You're going to enjoy your new camera. The only thing I can suggest is that you shoot extensively with K-5 before you do any serious work (such as your friend's wedding) with it. It has very different rhythm than *istD (or K10D for that matter, which is from where I transitioned

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I couldn't imagine taking more than 200-300 shots in a day before my Alaska cruise,

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2013-07-10 Thread Walt
On 7/10/2013 11:48 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card? I can't imagine shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that. The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card. I couldn't imagine taking more than

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2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that. At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and especially

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB fare? My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - do any of you do both the PEF and the

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2013-07-10 Thread Darren Addy
Congratulations Ann! You are going to LOVE the K-5. I think you will be happy with the AWB in most situations. You will need SD cards instead of the CF cards that the *istD uses (and thus a different card reader/adapter). The cheap USB adapters on ebay work fine. Update to the latest firmware as

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2013-07-10 Thread Gerrit Visser
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: soon to be enabled I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding

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2013-07-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have no problems shooting in AWB with the K-5. I always make sure I have some frames with gray or white in them, so I can readjust white balance when converting if necessary, but AWB usually nails it. Tungsten light would be an exception, but as long as you have that gray or white reference

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2013-07-10 Thread David J Brooks
Ann. I have shot a few indoor events, no flash with iso around 3200 or higher and they came out fine in AWB. I shoot DNG's, my LR can handle the Pefs but my PS is old and does not handle the PEFs. I find LR 4 handles any noise just fine. I used to shoot raw/jpeg so i could load up a jalbum quikly

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2013-07-10 Thread Jack Davis
...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:09 AM Subject: soon to be enabled I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I

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2013-07-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:09:18AM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing that.

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2013-07-10 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Ann: Wow! What fun! You'll love the K-5. AWB is pretty darn good. It's my go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy. High ISO settings are excellent like others have said. But if it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging. The K-5

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2013-07-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: Realistically, I doubt that you need more than a 32G card, which was at the peak for storage/dollar the last time I checked. A year ago, I shot for a week at dance/music events and used less than 32G per day. As people know, I am not shy about taking