Re: OT Brexit Aftermath

2016-07-11 Thread Paul

The whole god damn world is insane. Photograph it.

Stringer


That should be worth a MARK!!

-p

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Otherwise "I don't like it" (probably a bug or snake) or indifferent
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Subject: OT Brexit Aftermath

Politics in the US is insane.  It appears almost rational, however, compared
with what has been going on in England and Europe after the Brexit vote.

Is this right?  The PM resigned, and then the Brexit leaders in his party,
Johnson and Gove, said they are not interested in the job, leaving the field
open to a steon Remain Supporter.  Farange, who started it all, said "My
work here is done," and resigned the leadershipof his party., but remains a
member of the European Parliament.  The Labour Leader won't quit, so
everyone else in his party leadership quit instead.  No one on either side
of the referendum made any plans for what to do if Leave won, and the
current PM refuses to do anything, leaving it up to his successor, who may
be opposed to leaving.  Europe wants Britain to leave now, but Britain
refuses to do anything.  Even if they do, the Scots may have veto power over
the UK's withdrawal, and everyone in Northern Ireland appears to be applying
for Irish passports.

This is a rude analysis of the situation:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/the-crisis-explained-maybe?utm_term=.tjW
BLd0vL_medium=email_campaign=News%20-%200704%20Monday_content=Ne
ws%20-%200704%20Monday+CID_6bc9f3d10b2c8409d3d9c5498cef83b1_source=BuzzF
eed%20Newsletters#.fervzm5qz

And Down Under, things have taken a pretty strange turn as well:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/robstott/oh-god-oh-god-oh-god?utm_term=.ek5BnVRXn
tm_medium=email_campaign=News%20-%200704%20Monday_content=News%20-%2
00704%20Monday+CID_6bc9f3d10b2c8409d3d9c5498cef83b1_source=BuzzFeed%20Ne
wsletters#.ivggOx4XO

It appears to me that the only person who can look at this without screaming
out loudnis Putin, the Mad Russian.

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Re: OT: Film Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread John

Cleaning out my inbox ... I finally figured out why I was using the
disposable camera.

It was left over from the previous day's white-water rafting trip.
Bought 2 but only had time to use 1. So I used the second one for the
next day's train trip.

On 6/23/2016 11:07 AM, John wrote:

I just noticed that the way those disposable plastic cameras work is
they have the film pulled all the way out of the cassette and as you
take pictures, the film is rewound into the cassette. All of the frame
numbers come out back-to-front (i.e. #1 is the last photo & #27 is the
first).




Now all I have to figure out is why the hell was I using a disposable
camera and not my regular cameras?




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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Larry Colen
Why do you think they call it cross dressing?

On July 11, 2016 4:47:21 PM PDT, Paul  wrote:
>Does this mean only women can cross the street?
>
>http://www.web-options.com/T262b/content/L1000245_large.html
>
>-p
>
>
>On 7/11/2016 5:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bob W wrote:
>>> This is a 1:1 crop of one of the frames:
>>> http://www.web-options.com/L1000151.jpg
>>
>> Wonderfully sharp, but I do wish you could have used one of Bruce's 
>> models.
>>
>>
>>

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RE: OT Brexit Aftermath

2016-07-11 Thread Mark Stringer
The whole god damn world is insane.  Photograph it.

Stringer
"I like photographs but my ability for critique is limited to some
expression of "I like it".  
Otherwise "I don't like it" (probably a bug or snake) or indifferent
(probably a cat)."

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 1:00 PM
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Subject: OT Brexit Aftermath

Politics in the US is insane.  It appears almost rational, however, compared
with what has been going on in England and Europe after the Brexit vote.

Is this right?  The PM resigned, and then the Brexit leaders in his party,
Johnson and Gove, said they are not interested in the job, leaving the field
open to a steon Remain Supporter.  Farange, who started it all, said "My
work here is done," and resigned the leadershipof his party., but remains a
member of the European Parliament.  The Labour Leader won't quit, so
everyone else in his party leadership quit instead.  No one on either side
of the referendum made any plans for what to do if Leave won, and the
current PM refuses to do anything, leaving it up to his successor, who may
be opposed to leaving.  Europe wants Britain to leave now, but Britain
refuses to do anything.  Even if they do, the Scots may have veto power over
the UK's withdrawal, and everyone in Northern Ireland appears to be applying
for Irish passports.

This is a rude analysis of the situation:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/the-crisis-explained-maybe?utm_term=.tjW
BLd0vL_medium=email_campaign=News%20-%200704%20Monday_content=Ne
ws%20-%200704%20Monday+CID_6bc9f3d10b2c8409d3d9c5498cef83b1_source=BuzzF
eed%20Newsletters#.fervzm5qz

And Down Under, things have taken a pretty strange turn as well:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/robstott/oh-god-oh-god-oh-god?utm_term=.ek5BnVRXn
tm_medium=email_campaign=News%20-%200704%20Monday_content=News%20-%2
00704%20Monday+CID_6bc9f3d10b2c8409d3d9c5498cef83b1_source=BuzzFeed%20Ne
wsletters#.ivggOx4XO

It appears to me that the only person who can look at this without screaming
out loudnis Putin, the Mad Russian.

Dan Matyola
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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread P.J. Alling

I think that's the international symbol for beware lesbian ahead.

On 7/11/2016 7:47 PM, Paul wrote:

Does this mean only women can cross the street?

http://www.web-options.com/T262b/content/L1000245_large.html

-p


On 7/11/2016 5:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Bob W wrote:

This is a 1:1 crop of one of the frames:
http://www.web-options.com/L1000151.jpg


Wonderfully sharp, but I do wish you could have used one of Bruce's 
models.









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Re: OT Brexit Aftermath

2016-07-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Well, the new British PM May be a woman.  


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On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Gonz  wrote:

> Hear hear!
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> > On 9 Jul 2016, at 01:48, Stanley Halpin 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The EU certainly needs reforming, but not necessarily in the ways that
> tories such as Fellowes want, and the UK should have been part of it; in
> fact, leading the reform, effectively, and not just grandstanding for the
> sake of the loonies in their respective parties.
> >>>
> >>> B
> >>
> >> Is there a chance you could run for PM? A terrible job but hopefully
> someone somewhat sane will take it on…
> >
> > I'm of the party that believes that anyone who puts themselves forward
> for leadership is automatically disqualified.
> >
> > B
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Re: GESO: Car Show

2016-07-11 Thread David J Brooks
escellent

Dave

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Bill  wrote:
> Another day, another little car show, this one hosted at a local A (Motto:
> The 50s were fun)
>
> Some nice cars on display, these are the ones I was attracted to.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/photos/cars/index.html#
>
> Shot with the K1 and 31mm LTD. Smallish aperture, AE auto.
>
> enjoy
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Re: Adoramapix woes!

2016-07-11 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Paul, I am glad that you didn't experience problems with them.
In part, it is my lack of proper checking. I was very short on time, and I 
just assumed that they can work with standard color profiles. How naive I 
was!


For comparison, - as far as I remember, Mpix uses color profiles and even 
provide their printer profile for soft-proofing.


Cheers,

Igor





 Paul Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:58:45 -0700 wrote:

Sorry to hear you had a problem, Igor. I've only had them do several 
20x30s, but they've never been a problem. But...anything I send out to a 
lab gets sRGB embedded. The only time I use any other profile is if I'm 
doing my own printing.



-p

On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I've be seriously disappointed by Adoramapix today.
And there might be some useful information (a warning) for anybody who 
considers using them.


Well, let me tell the entire story.
In the era of film, I've used to print at Adorama store in person, while 
living in NYC, and I had my favorite master that I was asking to print my 
photos, even if that would take an extra day because it wasn't his day.

The way Michael was doing colors was what I wanted.

Then after moving away from NYC, I've used Adoramapix a few times to order 
photos via mail to some relatives on the East cost, and some photos for 
myself.
Fast-forward some 8-10 years. A few months ago, Adoramapix started sending 
their spam (aka UCE) to the address used for my account with them.
That's after more than 8 years of no relations. (This IS a violation of the 
existing, albeit miserably failed anti-spam laws. But this message is not 
about that.)
Just before July 1, I've got an e-mail from them with a special code for 100 
free 4x6 photos.


I actually needed to print something. So, I ordered them. Of course, the 
shipping is not free, and the faster you want them shipped things quicly pick 
up quite some price (that's apart from the "rush processing" if you want to 
have them printed within less then a week).


I've sent photos with the embedded Adober RGB (And a few with PhotoRGB) color 
profiles. At the last moment, I've written in the comments that

is am embedded color profile in each photo (PhotoRGB or AdobeRGB).
A week later (when I am thinking that my order is hopefully already put in 
the mail), I am getting an e-mail message (in between 4 identical 
Adorama+AdoramaPix spam messages "Adorama + Nigel Barker | Will You Be Our 
Top Photographer?"):


" I hope you understand that our lab only prints correctly images that are 
converted to SRGB only. We do not print any other color profiles."

Virginia C. CS Agent


Doh! The can only work with SRGB?!
They, who do not think twice before throwing in the word "professional" near 
"photography" and "printing"?!


And it took them a week to read that and to respond, and to suggest no 
options, nothing...


Caveat Emptor!

I just looked: Adoramapix got awful rating on ResellerRatings:
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Adorama_Pix

I know, I suggested AdoramaPix as a printing shop few times to PDMLers.
My sincere apologies!


Igor




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Re: Adoramapix woes!

2016-07-11 Thread Paul
Sorry to hear you had a problem, Igor.  I've only had them do several 
20x30s, but they've never been a problem.  But...anything I send out to 
a lab gets sRGB embedded.  The only time I use any other profile is if 
I'm doing my own printing.


-p


On 7/11/2016 6:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I've be seriously disappointed by Adoramapix today.
And there might be some useful information (a warning) for anybody who 
considers using them.


Well, let me tell the entire story.
In the era of film, I've used to print at Adorama store in person, 
while living in NYC, and I had my favorite master that I was asking to 
print my photos, even if that would take an extra day because it 
wasn't his day.

The way Michael was doing colors was what I wanted.

Then after moving away from NYC, I've used Adoramapix a few times to 
order photos via mail to some relatives on the East cost, and some 
photos for myself.
Fast-forward some 8-10 years. A few months ago, Adoramapix started 
sending their spam (aka UCE) to the address used for my account with 
them.
That's after more than 8 years of no relations. (This IS a violation 
of the existing, albeit miserably failed anti-spam laws. But this 
message is not about that.)
Just before July 1, I've got an e-mail from them with a special code 
for 100 free 4x6 photos.


 I actually needed to print something. So, I ordered them. Of course, 
the shipping is not free, and the faster you want them shipped things 
quicly pick up quite some price (that's apart from the "rush 
processing" if you want to have them printed within less then a week).


I've sent photos with the embedded Adober RGB (And a few with 
PhotoRGB) color profiles. At the last moment, I've written in the 
comments that

is am embedded color profile in each photo (PhotoRGB or AdobeRGB).
A week later (when I am thinking that my order is hopefully already 
put in the mail), I am getting an e-mail message (in between 4 
identical Adorama+AdoramaPix spam messages "Adorama + Nigel Barker | 
Will You Be Our Top Photographer?"):


" I hope you understand that our lab only prints correctly images that 
are converted to SRGB only. We do not print any other color profiles."

Virginia C. CS Agent


Doh! The can only work with SRGB?!
They, who do not think twice before throwing in the word 
"professional" near "photography" and "printing"?!


And it took them a week to read that and to respond, and to suggest no 
options, nothing...


Caveat Emptor!

I just looked: Adoramapix got awful rating on ResellerRatings:
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Adorama_Pix

I know, I suggested AdoramaPix as a printing shop few times to PDMLers.
My sincere apologies!


Igor




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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Paul

Does this mean only women can cross the street?

http://www.web-options.com/T262b/content/L1000245_large.html

-p


On 7/11/2016 5:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Bob W wrote:

This is a 1:1 crop of one of the frames:
http://www.web-options.com/L1000151.jpg


Wonderfully sharp, but I do wish you could have used one of Bruce's 
models.






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Adoramapix woes!

2016-07-11 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I've be seriously disappointed by Adoramapix today.
And there might be some useful information (a warning) for anybody who 
considers using them.


Well, let me tell the entire story.
In the era of film, I've used to print at Adorama store in person, while 
living in NYC, and I had my favorite master that I was asking to print my 
photos, even if that would take an extra day because it wasn't his day.

The way Michael was doing colors was what I wanted.

Then after moving away from NYC, I've used Adoramapix a few times to order 
photos via mail to some relatives on the East cost, and some photos for 
myself.
Fast-forward some 8-10 years. A few months ago, Adoramapix started 
sending their spam (aka UCE) to the address used for my account with them.
That's after more than 8 years of no relations. (This IS a violation of 
the existing, albeit miserably failed anti-spam laws. But this message 
is not about that.)
Just before July 1, I've got an e-mail from them with a special code for 
100 free 4x6 photos.


 I actually needed to print something. So, I ordered them. Of course, the 
shipping is not free, and the faster you want them shipped things quicly 
pick up quite some price (that's apart from the "rush processing" if you 
want to have them printed within less then a week).


I've sent photos with the embedded Adober RGB (And a few with PhotoRGB) 
color profiles. At the last moment, I've written in the comments that

is am embedded color profile in each photo (PhotoRGB or AdobeRGB).
A week later (when I am thinking that my order is hopefully already put in 
the mail), I am getting an e-mail message (in between 4 identical 
Adorama+AdoramaPix spam messages "Adorama + Nigel Barker | Will You Be Our 
Top Photographer?"):


" I hope you understand that our lab only prints correctly images that are 
converted to SRGB only. We do not print any other color profiles."

Virginia C. CS Agent


Doh! The can only work with SRGB?!
They, who do not think twice before throwing in the word "professional" 
near "photography" and "printing"?!


And it took them a week to read that and to respond, and to suggest no 
options, nothing...


Caveat Emptor!

I just looked: Adoramapix got awful rating on ResellerRatings:
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Adorama_Pix

I know, I suggested AdoramaPix as a printing shop few times to PDMLers.
My sincere apologies!


Igor


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Re: Gone

2016-07-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks to all for the outpouring of support. It was great to have been able to 
share Grace with the list. That started before she even left Scotland with list 
members offering advice on how I might be able to rescue her and her mother. 
And of course it continued over the years as she grew up before my eyes and 
before your eyes. I'm sure I will see her again soon -- as will you. Thanks 
much friends.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> I have been grateful to have been able to follow the Gracie story all these 
> years. Thank you for sharing your special family with all of us through words 
> and photos. I hope she knows how many virtual aunts and uncles she has across 
> the world who stand ready if she should need anything.
> 
> Stan
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Grace arrived 11 years ago on a flight from Scotland to Detroit, via 
>> Baltimore. It was an escape I had arranged, and I couldn’t breathe easy  
>> until I saw Grace and her mother descending the escalator from the flight 
>> deck. My wife and I met them and took them  home. The next morning I got 
>> down on the floor and talked to Gracie — and photographed her — and we began 
>> to establish a powerful bond that included all manner of things, including 
>> cameras. In the years that followed there were parties, trips to the beach, 
>> an endless number of days at the park, games, meals, some wonderful friends 
>> in the neighborhood and more. And through it all, Gracie was my partner, and 
>> I documented it in photos, some 3,000 I believe. But the end was always 
>> inevitable and yesterday it came to pass at 8:40 am as Grace and her mother 
>> left for a new life in Houston, Texas. I had steeled myself against the 
>> inevitable, but once their truck was out of site, the tears flowed. Today 
>> hasn’t been easy, but I have learned about moving on, and I’m working on 
>> that. I’ll be good, and I trust that Gracie will as well. But I will love 
>> her deeply until the day I die. 
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259241
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Re: Gone

2016-07-11 Thread Stanley Halpin
I have been grateful to have been able to follow the Gracie story all these 
years. Thank you for sharing your special family with all of us through words 
and photos. I hope she knows how many virtual aunts and uncles she has across 
the world who stand ready if she should need anything.

Stan

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Grace arrived 11 years ago on a flight from Scotland to Detroit, via 
> Baltimore. It was an escape I had arranged, and I couldn’t breathe easy  
> until I saw Grace and her mother descending the escalator from the flight 
> deck. My wife and I met them and took them  home. The next morning I got down 
> on the floor and talked to Gracie — and photographed her — and we began to 
> establish a powerful bond that included all manner of things, including 
> cameras. In the years that followed there were parties, trips to the beach, 
> an endless number of days at the park, games, meals, some wonderful friends 
> in the neighborhood and more. And through it all, Gracie was my partner, and 
> I documented it in photos, some 3,000 I believe. But the end was always 
> inevitable and yesterday it came to pass at 8:40 am as Grace and her mother 
> left for a new life in Houston, Texas. I had steeled myself against the 
> inevitable, but once their truck was out of site, the tears flowed. Today 
> hasn’t been easy, but I have learned about moving on, and I’m working on 
> that. I’ll be good, and I trust that Gracie will as well. But I will love her 
> deeply until the day I die. 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259241
> 


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Re: GESO: Car Show

2016-07-11 Thread Bill

On 7/10/2016 4:20 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Great set. Love the Jag engine with the velocity stacks and the mid
50s Ford in coral. It would be called a Crown Victoria here, but
Fords in Canada often had different names. Good stuff!

Paul


That one was a Crestline. I've heard them called Crestline Victorias. My 
understanding is that they were replaced by the Fairlane in the mid 50s.

I had no idea that was a Jag engine, I just thought the intakes were cool.

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Re: GESO: Car Show

2016-07-11 Thread Bill

On 7/10/2016 3:43 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 10/7/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:


Another day, another little car show, this one hosted at a local A
(Motto: The 50s were fun)

Some nice cars on display, these are the ones I was attracted to.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/photos/cars/index.html#

Shot with the K1 and 31mm LTD. Smallish aperture, AE auto.


Enjoyed those very much.



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Re: Gone

2016-07-11 Thread Larry Colen



Paul Stenquist wrote:

Grace arrived 11 years ago on a flight from Scotland to Detroit, via Baltimore. 
It was an escape I had arranged, and I couldn’t breathe easy  until I saw Grace 
and her mother descending the escalator from the flight deck. My wife and I met 
them and took them  home. The next morning I got down on the floor and talked 
to Gracie — and photographed her — and we began to establish a powerful bond 
that included all manner of things, including cameras. In the years that 
followed there were parties, trips to the beach, an endless number of days at 
the park, games, meals, some wonderful friends in the neighborhood and more. 
And through it all, Gracie was my partner, and I documented it in photos, some 
3,000 I believe. But the end was always inevitable and yesterday it came to 
pass at 8:40 am as Grace and her mother left for a new life in Houston, Texas. 
I had steeled myself against the inevitable, but once their truck was out of 
site, the tears flowed. Today hasn’t been easy

, but I have learned about moving on, and I’m working on that. I’ll be good, 
and I trust that Gracie will as well. But I will love her deeply until the day 
I die.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259241


Wonderful photo. She is growing up to be quite the young lady. Almost 
all transitions, even the ones for the best, are tough.  I have every 
confidence that you will each continue to be a strong and positive 
influence in each other's life.









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Re: OT Brexit Aftermath

2016-07-11 Thread Gonz
Hear hear!

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> On 9 Jul 2016, at 01:48, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>>
>>> The EU certainly needs reforming, but not necessarily in the ways that 
>>> tories such as Fellowes want, and the UK should have been part of it; in 
>>> fact, leading the reform, effectively, and not just grandstanding for the 
>>> sake of the loonies in their respective parties.
>>>
>>> B
>>
>> Is there a chance you could run for PM? A terrible job but hopefully someone 
>> somewhat sane will take it on…
>
> I'm of the party that believes that anyone who puts themselves forward for 
> leadership is automatically disqualified.
>
> B
>
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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Larry Colen



Bob W wrote:

This is a 1:1 crop of one of the frames:
http://www.web-options.com/L1000151.jpg


Wonderfully sharp, but I do wish you could have used one of Bruce's models.



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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Same as mine but a decade newer. A delightful lens. 
Come to think of it, I received this lens in the original box with the hood and 
caps, so I didn't pay extra for the hood ... although I did pay a little extra 
for the original box, etc. 
I'll make sure to not lose the lens hood..!

G

On Jul 11, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

Mine's one of these, 1983 according to the s/n. 


http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/35mm_f/1.4_Summilux_II

Lovely little lens. The hood is a 12504; not difficult to find, but absurdly 
pricey. The guy in the shop said that you can get perfect copies on ebay, so 
I'll take a look sometime and put the original in a bank vault to pay for my 
pension.

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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Bob's is the "full featured" version of the typ 262. Mine is the stripped down 
model ... no LCD, no menus, no settings other than date, time, and the usual focus and 
exposure settings. 

It costs a little more but it's worth it. ;-)

G

On Jul 11, 2016, at 01:03 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

Bob W wrote:
A few weeks ago I bought a used Leica M typ-262, which is my first 24x36mm
digital camera. I haven't had chance to use it until earlier this evening,
when I took it for an hour's walk along the river in the late evening light.
The aim was to get colour and light, and see how I liked using it (a lot!).

Ah, the "less is more" Leica.

Apart from the first, and the 'Discover Greenwich' one where I slightly
adjusted the verticals, these are uncropped. Processed in Lightroom: Medium
contrast curve preset; Punch preset; Sharpen preset.

On one or two of them you can see some vignetting. This is because they were
shot on my 35/1.4 lens, whose hood is so battered it intrudes. I need to buy
a new one. Other lenses: 50/2; 90/2.8.

It's very nice to be shooting 24x36 again, and it is really a lovely camera
to use. Very happy with the results.

http://www.web-options.com/T262/

Very nice work. Some of the shadows are deep enough to pretty much lose 
detail on my display. One of the joys of the 24x36 sensor is the 
latitude of adjustment available to you. It would be interesting to 
compare sensor performance, workflow, and ISO invariance between the 
Leica and the K-1.


I can certainly see the advantage of the stripped down system and 
simpler menus. I can also see advantage of one of the menu items being 
the option of enabling all of the other menu items that have been 
stripped out. Of course, they implemented this feature with the VISA 
protocol. All you need to do is spend another $5,000 and you can have a 
stripped down menu as well as a full featured menu.


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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 11 Jul 2016, at 21:03, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Bob W wrote:
>> A few weeks ago I bought a used Leica M typ-262, which is my first 24x36mm
>> digital camera. I haven't had chance to use it until earlier this evening,
>> when I took it for an hour's walk along the river in the late evening light.
>> The aim was to get colour and light, and see how I liked using it (a lot!).
> 
> Ah, the "less is more" Leica.
>> 
>> Apart from the first, and the 'Discover Greenwich' one where I slightly
>> adjusted the verticals, these are uncropped. Processed in Lightroom: Medium
>> contrast curve preset; Punch preset; Sharpen preset.
>> 
>> On one or two of them you can see some vignetting. This is because they were
>> shot on my 35/1.4 lens, whose hood is so battered it intrudes. I need to buy
>> a new one. Other lenses: 50/2; 90/2.8.
>> 
>> It's very nice to be shooting 24x36 again, and it is really a lovely camera
>> to use. Very happy with the results.
>> 
>> http://www.web-options.com/T262/
> 
> Very nice work.  

Thanks.

> Some of the shadows are deep enough to pretty much lose detail on my display. 
>  One of the joys of the 24x36 sensor is the latitude of adjustment available 
> to you. It would be interesting to compare sensor performance, workflow, and 
> ISO invariance between the Leica and the K-1.
> 
> I can certainly see the advantage of the stripped down system and simpler 
> menus. I can also see advantage of one of the menu items being the option of 
> enabling all of the other menu items that have been stripped out. Of course, 
> they implemented this feature with the VISA protocol.  All you need to do is 
> spend another $5,000 and you can have a stripped down menu as well as a full 
> featured menu.

Godfrey's MD is even more stripped down than mine - it doesn't have a screen, 
therefore no menus at all, just iso, shutter speed, shutter release, aperture 
and focus. Lovely.

B
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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Larry Colen



Bob W wrote:

A few weeks ago I bought a used Leica M typ-262, which is my first 24x36mm
digital camera. I haven't had chance to use it until earlier this evening,
when I took it for an hour's walk along the river in the late evening light.
The aim was to get colour and light, and see how I liked using it (a lot!).


Ah, the "less is more" Leica.


Apart from the first, and the 'Discover Greenwich' one where I slightly
adjusted the verticals, these are uncropped. Processed in Lightroom: Medium
contrast curve preset; Punch preset; Sharpen preset.

On one or two of them you can see some vignetting. This is because they were
shot on my 35/1.4 lens, whose hood is so battered it intrudes. I need to buy
a new one. Other lenses: 50/2; 90/2.8.

It's very nice to be shooting 24x36 again, and it is really a lovely camera
to use. Very happy with the results.

http://www.web-options.com/T262/


Very nice work.  Some of the shadows are deep enough to pretty much lose 
detail on my display.  One of the joys of the 24x36 sensor is the 
latitude of adjustment available to you. It would be interesting to 
compare sensor performance, workflow, and ISO invariance between the 
Leica and the K-1.


I can certainly see the advantage of the stripped down system and 
simpler menus. I can also see advantage of one of the menu items being 
the option of enabling all of the other menu items that have been 
stripped out. Of course, they implemented this feature with the VISA 
protocol.  All you need to do is spend another $5,000 and you can have a 
stripped down menu as well as a full featured menu.




B

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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
Mine's one of these, 1983 according to the s/n. 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/35mm_f/1.4_Summilux_II

Lovely little lens. The hood is a 12504; not difficult to find, but absurdly 
pricey. The guy in the shop said that you can get perfect copies on ebay, so 
I'll take a look sometime and put the original in a bank vault to pay for my 
pension.

B

> On 11 Jul 2016, at 19:14, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Some bits do cost an inordinate amount of money, while others are amazingly 
> reasonable. Most extreme case I've run into was my ca 1959-1960 Hektor 
> 135/4.5: the lens cost me $175 in near mint condition, but finding the 
> correct cap and lens hood for it was nearly another $90. So much for a couple 
> of little bits of plastic. 
> 
> Which 35/1.4 do you have? I have a 1972 version 2.. I don't recall the hood 
> as being horridly difficult to find or terribly expensive. I think I got the 
> hood from EBay. (BTW: I love this lens! It's the original Walter Mandler 
> design, very small and light for its speed, and has the most beautiful 
> rendering qualities—very adjustable with the aperture as well. I had it coded 
> for the six-bit reader so the M-D recognizes it and assigns the right profile 
> automatically.)
> 
> I'll look in on your new set of photos shortly.  :-)
> 
> G
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> 
>> Here are some more shots trying out different types of subject, taken today, 
>> getting used to the camera. It's much more enjoyable to use than the M8. 
>> 
>> http://www.web-options.com/T262b/
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Bob W-PDML [mailto:p...@web-options.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, 11 July, 2016 3:48 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Subject: Re: First 24x36 digital
>>> 
>>> Thanks. Glad to hear you bought the MD, and looking forward to seeing what
>>> you do with it.
>>> 
>>> I'm mooching around central London today, taking snaps in more traditional
>>> London light, more accurately rain at the time of writing. I thought about 
>>> the
>>> MD while chimping, and decided that it would be nice not to have the
>>> temptation there.
>>> 
>>> I popped into the Leica pushers earlier to see if I could get a decent
>>> replacement for the 35/1.4 hood. It turns out that even in battered 
>>> condition
>>> like mine they are very sought after, so I guess I'll get my blacksmith to 
>>> beat it
>>> back into shape. Typical Leica.
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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Some bits do cost an inordinate amount of money, while others are amazingly 
reasonable. Most extreme case I've run into was my ca 1959-1960 Hektor 135/4.5: 
the lens cost me $175 in near mint condition, but finding the correct cap and 
lens hood for it was nearly another $90. So much for a couple of little bits of 
plastic. 

Which 35/1.4 do you have? I have a 1972 version 2.. I don't recall the hood as 
being horridly difficult to find or terribly expensive. I think I got the hood 
from EBay. (BTW: I love this lens! It's the original Walter Mandler design, 
very small and light for its speed, and has the most beautiful rendering 
qualities—very adjustable with the aperture as well. I had it coded for the 
six-bit reader so the M-D recognizes it and assigns the right profile 
automatically.)

I'll look in on your new set of photos shortly.  :-)

G



> On Jul 11, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> 
> Here are some more shots trying out different types of subject, taken today, 
> getting used to the camera. It's much more enjoyable to use than the M8. 
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/T262b/
> 
> B
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob W-PDML [mailto:p...@web-options.com]
>> Sent: Monday, 11 July, 2016 3:48 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: First 24x36 digital
>> 
>> Thanks. Glad to hear you bought the MD, and looking forward to seeing what
>> you do with it.
>> 
>> I'm mooching around central London today, taking snaps in more traditional
>> London light, more accurately rain at the time of writing. I thought about 
>> the
>> MD while chimping, and decided that it would be nice not to have the
>> temptation there.
>> 
>> I popped into the Leica pushers earlier to see if I could get a decent
>> replacement for the 35/1.4 hood. It turns out that even in battered condition
>> like mine they are very sought after, so I guess I'll get my blacksmith to 
>> beat it
>> back into shape. Typical Leica.

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RE: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W
Here are some more shots trying out different types of subject, taken today, 
getting used to the camera. It's much more enjoyable to use than the M8. 

http://www.web-options.com/T262b/

B

> -Original Message-
> From: Bob W-PDML [mailto:p...@web-options.com]
> Sent: Monday, 11 July, 2016 3:48 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: First 24x36 digital
> 
> Thanks. Glad to hear you bought the MD, and looking forward to seeing what
> you do with it.
> 
> I'm mooching around central London today, taking snaps in more traditional
> London light, more accurately rain at the time of writing. I thought about the
> MD while chimping, and decided that it would be nice not to have the
> temptation there.
> 
> I popped into the Leica pushers earlier to see if I could get a decent
> replacement for the 35/1.4 hood. It turns out that even in battered condition
> like mine they are very sought after, so I guess I'll get my blacksmith to 
> beat it
> back into shape. Typical Leica.
> 
> B
> 
> > On 11 Jul 2016, at 14:31, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Good stuff! I'm glad you're enjoying the M262.
> >
> > I am similarly delighted with the M-D262 … There's something utterly
> liberating about going out with a camera for which there are no settings
> other than the traditional settings of focus and exposure (ISO, aperture,
> time). It works just the way my head wants a camera to work so much of the
> time.
> >
> > I look forward to seeing more. :-)
> >
> > G
> >
> >> On Jul 10, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> >>
> >> A few weeks ago I bought a used Leica M typ-262, which is my first
> >> 24x36mm digital camera. I haven't had chance to use it until earlier
> >> this evening, when I took it for an hour's walk along the river in the late
> evening light.
> >> The aim was to get colour and light, and see how I liked using it (a lot!).
> >>
> >> Apart from the first, and the 'Discover Greenwich' one where I
> >> slightly adjusted the verticals, these are uncropped. Processed in
> >> Lightroom: Medium contrast curve preset; Punch preset; Sharpen preset.
> >>
> >> On one or two of them you can see some vignetting. This is because
> >> they were shot on my 35/1.4 lens, whose hood is so battered it
> >> intrudes. I need to buy a new one. Other lenses: 50/2; 90/2.8.
> >>
> >> It's very nice to be shooting 24x36 again, and it is really a lovely
> >> camera to use. Very happy with the results.
> >>
> >> http://www.web-options.com/T262/
> >>
> >> B
> >>

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Re: Gone

2016-07-11 Thread John

Sooner or later the baby birds have to spread their wings & leave the nest.

Houston's not the other side of the moon, so I hope you'll be able to 
visit them or have them visit you often.


On 7/10/2016 9:01 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Grace arrived 11 years ago on a flight from Scotland to Detroit, via Baltimore. 
It was an escape I had arranged, and I couldn’t breathe easy  until I saw Grace 
and her mother descending the escalator from the flight deck. My wife and I met 
them and took them  home. The next morning I got down on the floor and talked 
to Gracie — and photographed her — and we began to establish a powerful bond 
that included all manner of things, including cameras. In the years that 
followed there were parties, trips to the beach, an endless number of days at 
the park, games, meals, some wonderful friends in the neighborhood and more. 
And through it all, Gracie was my partner, and I documented it in photos, some 
3,000 I believe. But the end was always inevitable and yesterday it came to 
pass at 8:40 am as Grace and her mother left for a new life in Houston, Texas. 
I had steeled myself against the inevitable, but once their truck was out of 
site, the tears flowed. Today hasn’t been easy, but I have learned about moving 
on, and I’m working on that. I’ll be good, and I trust that Gracie will as 
well. But I will love her deeply until the day I die.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259241






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Re: Gone

2016-07-11 Thread Alan C
Strongs, Paul. All the best for the years ahead. I'm sure you'll still see 
plenty of each other.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Stenquist

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:01 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Gone

Grace arrived 11 years ago on a flight from Scotland to Detroit, via 
Baltimore. It was an escape I had arranged, and I couldn’t breathe easy 
until I saw Grace and her mother descending the escalator from the flight 
deck. My wife and I met them and took them  home. The next morning I got 
down on the floor and talked to Gracie — and photographed her — and we began 
to establish a powerful bond that included all manner of things, including 
cameras. In the years that followed there were parties, trips to the beach, 
an endless number of days at the park, games, meals, some wonderful friends 
in the neighborhood and more. And through it all, Gracie was my partner, and 
I documented it in photos, some 3,000 I believe. But the end was always 
inevitable and yesterday it came to pass at 8:40 am as Grace and her mother 
left for a new life in Houston, Texas. I had steeled myself against the 
inevitable, but once their truck was out of site, the tears flowed. Today 
hasn’t been easy, but I have learned about moving on, and I’m working on 
that. I’ll be good, and I trust that Gracie will as well. But I will love 
her deeply until the day I die.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259241




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Re: "You must have a nice camera!": Results vs. Tools (or Toys)

2016-07-11 Thread Alan C
"Modern age common culture is built upon progressive disregard of human 
factor and hence reliance of gear/automatics/you name it".


Boris, you've hit the nail on the head. When I started out in analytical 
chemistry half a century ago, one needed very good bench skills to get 
acceptable results. Today, analysts don't even need to know much about 
chemistry - the "machines" do all the work. The golden age of chemistry has 
passed. Long live the "nice" cameras.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Boris Liberman

Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 6:23 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: "You must have a nice camera!": Results vs. Tools (or Toys)

Igor, I am yet to hear someone tell me that my camera is nice. Which,
I am telling you, will be met with a wide smile...

However, more than once I was told that I must be professional
photographer or that my pictures look professional. This is always met
with a strong denial. However, I oftentimes use: "Oh no, it is my gear
that is so good at making pictures" lame excuse that fascinatingly
works more often than not.

Modern age common culture is built upon progressive disregard of human
factor and hence reliance of gear/automatics/you name it.

Boris

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:



Something just hit me, provoking this line of thoughts...

Preamble:
How many times have you heard (usually from people you don't know 
closely):

"You've got nice photos, you must have a nice camera!".
I (and probably some PDMLers) have always been ... maybe "somewhat
frustrated" is the right word here.
(And I understand that they are just trying to say something nice, without
realizing how awkward it sounds.)
At some point, I had been happy to find (a few years ago) a nice joking
response to that: "Your food is delicious, you must have a great stove (or
pot, skilet...)!"

Today, I realized that many people on PDML (myself included) frequently 
show

a photo, admiringly discussing the lens (or camera) it was taken with.
Ghm... Maybe I shouldn't be frustrated about people saying what appears to
be awkward...

And then I thought that while cooking, sometimes I enjoy a very good knife
or a very nice set of skillets we bought several years ago. ... or a
convenient tea-pot for brewing tea that we've found after long search for
what we needed. Or that electric tea kettle that has been chugging along 
for
15 years. ... and several other tools and items that are made well and 
work

well.

... But, I still feel awkward about "you must have a nice camera!"

Maybe because those knives and skillets don't make me a better cook, and 
my

camera doesn't make me a better photographer. They only help me being more
effective (and efficient) in what I can do.
So, I guess that awkward feeling comes from the subconsious realization
that "you must have a nice camera!" undervalues my skills in favor of the
equipment.

...
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Re: Card Readers

2016-07-11 Thread John

Try Newegg & search for "multicard reader"

http://www.newegg.com/

You can refine the search for internal readers & USB 3

http://tinyurl.com/USB3-Reader


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Hi, I am looking for a new card reader.
I want one that mounts in a CD drive bay (I believe that makes it a
5.25" bay", and it must support USB3 for card reading. I would also like
it to have at least one, preferably more USB 3 ports.
I'm on a PC, so firewire stuff probably isn't going to work for me, but
my MB does support internal USP 3 connections..

Any ideas?

thanks

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Re: France - all the clichés

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
Wow, thanks!

B

> On 11 Jul 2016, at 15:13, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> Excellent set, Bob!  This one is particularly stunning.
> http://www.web-options.com/France2016/content/IMG_0750_large.html
> 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:16 AM, Bob W  wrote:
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>> From my recent cycling trip:
>> 
>> http://www.web-options.com/France2016/
>> 
>> B
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Re: PESO: Regal in Red

2016-07-11 Thread Jack Davis
Held up VERY well, Paul. 
Like!

J

- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 7:41:42 AM
Subject: PESO: Regal in Red

Spent a lot of time in the yard with my camera yesterday. Good therapy. This 
guy was fairly distant, and this is only about 40% of frame, but it seems to 
have held up well. K-1 with DFA 150-450 and DA 1.4X converter. I find the 
vignetting is minor with this rig, so I’m shooting in full frame mode. F8, 
1/500th, ISO 1000:

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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
Thanks Christine. Looking forward to obliging.

B

> On 11 Jul 2016, at 15:25, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> Wow!  The color and light are stunning.  Really looking forward to seeing the 
> photos from this camera.  And congrats on your new purchase.
> 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> 
>> A few weeks ago I bought a used Leica M typ-262, which is my first 24x36mm
>> digital camera. I haven't had chance to use it until earlier this evening,
>> when I took it for an hour's walk along the river in the late evening light.
>> The aim was to get colour and light, and see how I liked using it (a lot!).
>> 
>> Apart from the first, and the 'Discover Greenwich' one where I slightly
>> adjusted the verticals, these are uncropped. Processed in Lightroom: Medium
>> contrast curve preset; Punch preset; Sharpen preset.
>> 
>> On one or two of them you can see some vignetting. This is because they were
>> shot on my 35/1.4 lens, whose hood is so battered it intrudes. I need to buy
>> a new one. Other lenses: 50/2; 90/2.8.
>> 
>> It's very nice to be shooting 24x36 again, and it is really a lovely camera
>> to use. Very happy with the results.
>> 
>> http://www.web-options.com/T262/
>> 
>> B
>> 
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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
Thanks. Glad to hear you bought the MD, and looking forward to seeing what you 
do with it. 

I'm mooching around central London today, taking snaps in more traditional 
London light, more accurately rain at the time of writing. I thought about the 
MD while chimping, and decided that it would be nice not to have the temptation 
there. 

I popped into the Leica pushers earlier to see if I could get a decent 
replacement for the 35/1.4 hood. It turns out that even in battered condition 
like mine they are very sought after, so I guess I'll get my blacksmith to beat 
it back into shape. Typical Leica.

B

> On 11 Jul 2016, at 14:31, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Good stuff! I'm glad you're enjoying the M262. 
> 
> I am similarly delighted with the M-D262 … There's something utterly 
> liberating about going out with a camera for which there are no settings 
> other than the traditional settings of focus and exposure (ISO, aperture, 
> time). It works just the way my head wants a camera to work so much of the 
> time. 
> 
> I look forward to seeing more. :-)
> 
> G
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> 
>> A few weeks ago I bought a used Leica M typ-262, which is my first 24x36mm
>> digital camera. I haven't had chance to use it until earlier this evening,
>> when I took it for an hour's walk along the river in the late evening light.
>> The aim was to get colour and light, and see how I liked using it (a lot!).
>> 
>> Apart from the first, and the 'Discover Greenwich' one where I slightly
>> adjusted the verticals, these are uncropped. Processed in Lightroom: Medium
>> contrast curve preset; Punch preset; Sharpen preset.
>> 
>> On one or two of them you can see some vignetting. This is because they were
>> shot on my 35/1.4 lens, whose hood is so battered it intrudes. I need to buy
>> a new one. Other lenses: 50/2; 90/2.8.
>> 
>> It's very nice to be shooting 24x36 again, and it is really a lovely camera
>> to use. Very happy with the results.
>> 
>> http://www.web-options.com/T262/
>> 
>> B
>> 
>> p.s. the parrot is only resting.
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Re: OT: Congratulations to our British and American colleagues

2016-07-11 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
El Lunes 11 de julio de 2016 9:38, Steve Cottrell  escribió:


>On 11/7/16, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>>Andy Murray did it again!
>>
>>Rule, Brittania! Rule, the courts! :-)
>
>>Just saying...

>Not to mention Lewis Hamilton winning the British Grand Prix at Silverstone.

>Just adding


Nah...you need much more than this to overcome the Euro fiasco with Iceland.

Just putting things into perspective...

;-)


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Re: Gone

2016-07-11 Thread Christine Aguila
A very touching story, Paul, and always tough to say good-bye.  She’s lucking 
to have such a loving grandfather.  She’ll never forget the loving home she had 
with you and your wife.  Kids just don’t forget that.  While true the two of 
you are separated by geography, don’t think for a moment you’re separated in 
heart.  You and Grace are soul mates forever! 

Big hugs and cheers, Christine



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> Grace arrived 11 years ago on a flight from Scotland to Detroit, via 
> Baltimore. It was an escape I had arranged, and I couldn’t breathe easy  
> until I saw Grace and her mother descending the escalator from the flight 
> deck. My wife and I met them and took them  home. The next morning I got down 
> on the floor and talked to Gracie — and photographed her — and we began to 
> establish a powerful bond that included all manner of things, including 
> cameras. In the years that followed there were parties, trips to the beach, 
> an endless number of days at the park, games, meals, some wonderful friends 
> in the neighborhood and more. And through it all, Gracie was my partner, and 
> I documented it in photos, some 3,000 I believe. But the end was always 
> inevitable and yesterday it came to pass at 8:40 am as Grace and her mother 
> left for a new life in Houston, Texas. I had steeled myself against the 
> inevitable, but once their truck was out of site, the tears flowed. Today 
> hasn’t been easy, but I have learned about moving on, and I’m working on 
> that. I’ll be good, and I trust that Gracie will as well. But I will love her 
> deeply until the day I die. 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259241
> 
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PESO: Regal in Red

2016-07-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Spent a lot of time in the yard with my camera yesterday. Good therapy. This 
guy was fairly distant, and this is only about 40% of frame, but it seems to 
have held up well. K-1 with DFA 150-450 and DA 1.4X converter. I find the 
vignetting is minor with this rig, so I’m shooting in full frame mode. F8, 
1/500th, ISO 1000:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259474=lg
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Re: Gone

2016-07-11 Thread Jack Davis
Bless you Paul. Your love and caring for Grace will carry her through glorious 
womanhood
with the benefit of your generous and wise influence.
Am with you!

Jack 

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 8:42:37 PM
Subject: Re: Gone

Thanks Godfrey. Yes, it will be 11 years August 15. I'm sure her picture was 
posted before a week had passed.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> You've choked me up, Paul. 
> I am sure it will be fine. We must let go and let our friends and family do 
> what they must. 
> May they have a good life in Houston. I'm sure you will stay close. 
> Hold fast and stay brave. All the best to you and the long memory of your 
> time with Grace.
> 
> Is it really 11 years now? That's nearly as long as I've been on PDML. Wow.
> 
> G
> 
> "The only things truly worth having can only be given away. 
> Not bought, nor sold, nor held; just given.
> The more you give them away, the more full your life becomes."
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Grace arrived 11 years ago on a flight from Scotland to Detroit, via 
>> Baltimore. It was an escape I had arranged, and I couldn’t breathe easy  
>> until I saw Grace and her mother descending the escalator from the flight 
>> deck. My wife and I met them and took them  home. The next morning I got 
>> down on the floor and talked to Gracie — and photographed her — and we began 
>> to establish a powerful bond that included all manner of things, including 
>> cameras. In the years that followed there were parties, trips to the beach, 
>> an endless number of days at the park, games, meals, some wonderful friends 
>> in the neighborhood and more. And through it all, Gracie was my partner, and 
>> I documented it in photos, some 3,000 I believe. But the end was always 
>> inevitable and yesterday it came to pass at 8:40 am as Grace and her mother 
>> left for a new life in Houston, Texas. I had steeled myself against the 
>> inevitable, but once their truck was out of site, the tears flowed. Today 
>> hasn’t been easy, but I have learned about moving on, and I’m working on 
>> that. I’ll be good, and I trust that Gracie will as well. But I will love 
>> her deeply until the day I die. 
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259241
> 
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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow!  The color and light are stunning.  Really looking forward to seeing the 
photos from this camera.  And congrats on your new purchase.

Cheers, Christine


> On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> 
> A few weeks ago I bought a used Leica M typ-262, which is my first 24x36mm
> digital camera. I haven't had chance to use it until earlier this evening,
> when I took it for an hour's walk along the river in the late evening light.
> The aim was to get colour and light, and see how I liked using it (a lot!).
> 
> Apart from the first, and the 'Discover Greenwich' one where I slightly
> adjusted the verticals, these are uncropped. Processed in Lightroom: Medium
> contrast curve preset; Punch preset; Sharpen preset.
> 
> On one or two of them you can see some vignetting. This is because they were
> shot on my 35/1.4 lens, whose hood is so battered it intrudes. I need to buy
> a new one. Other lenses: 50/2; 90/2.8.
> 
> It's very nice to be shooting 24x36 again, and it is really a lovely camera
> to use. Very happy with the results.
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/T262/
> 
> B
> 
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Re: France - all the clichés

2016-07-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Excellent set, Bob!  This one is particularly stunning.
http://www.web-options.com/France2016/content/IMG_0750_large.html

Cheers, Christine


> On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:16 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> 
> From my recent cycling trip:
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/France2016/
> 
> B
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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hi Bob,

Good stuff! I'm glad you're enjoying the M262. 

I am similarly delighted with the M-D262 … There's something utterly liberating 
about going out with a camera for which there are no settings other than the 
traditional settings of focus and exposure (ISO, aperture, time). It works just 
the way my head wants a camera to work so much of the time. 

I look forward to seeing more. :-)

G

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> 
> A few weeks ago I bought a used Leica M typ-262, which is my first 24x36mm
> digital camera. I haven't had chance to use it until earlier this evening,
> when I took it for an hour's walk along the river in the late evening light.
> The aim was to get colour and light, and see how I liked using it (a lot!).
> 
> Apart from the first, and the 'Discover Greenwich' one where I slightly
> adjusted the verticals, these are uncropped. Processed in Lightroom: Medium
> contrast curve preset; Punch preset; Sharpen preset.
> 
> On one or two of them you can see some vignetting. This is because they were
> shot on my 35/1.4 lens, whose hood is so battered it intrudes. I need to buy
> a new one. Other lenses: 50/2; 90/2.8.
> 
> It's very nice to be shooting 24x36 again, and it is really a lovely camera
> to use. Very happy with the results.
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/T262/
> 
> B
> 
> p.s. the parrot is only resting.


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Re: Card Readers

2016-07-11 Thread P.J. Alling
OK, so I was wrong, well at least out of date.  My information was as of 
several months ago.  I've been looking for one of these myself, and I'm 
now aware of at least two other options that are true USB 3.0 readers.  
The front panels of all of them show pretty much the same card slots in 
the same arrangements, probably the same components if not the same 
complete readers.  You can spend a lot more or a bit less, the only 
difference seems to be that the newer readers can transfer files 
directly between cards.  Where as the Roswell unit I reverenced at 
Amazon cannot.  I suspect it's a firmware rather than hardware issue.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D31V2L8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8=1=A29Y8OP2GPR7PE

Which is the one I'm thinking of getting.  I know it looks cheep but 
with electronics I find that you often don't get what you pay for, you 
often get a lot less.



On 7/10/2016 10:45 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
The only internal card reader that actually supports USB 3.0 is this 
one available on Amazon.  I've done a bit of research and all the 
other "USB 3.0" actually seem to have USB 2.0 card readers, the only 
thing that supports 3.0 is the additional USB ports.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006DKEQL0/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8=1=A3O5UCB3BTOOSH 



It's designed for a 3 1/2 inch drive bay so you'll need a 3.5 to 5.25 
inch mounting kit, but those are cheep enough.


On 7/10/2016 9:40 PM, Bill wrote:

Hi, I am looking for a new card reader.
I want one that mounts in a CD drive bay (I believe that makes it a 
5.25" bay", and it must support USB3 for card reading. I would also 
like it to have at least one, preferably more USB 3 ports.
I'm on a PC, so firewire stuff probably isn't going to work for me, 
but my MB does support internal USP 3 connections..


Any ideas?

thanks

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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
:0)

> On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:48, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> Hello Bipin. 
> That's what they all look like without makeup.
> Jostein 
> 
> Den 11. juli 2016 05.46.08 CEST, skrev Bipin Gupta :
>> Hello Bob, I saw the lot of photos you attached and the particular 1:1
>> crop.
>> The photos are simply wonderful, well composed and the colors pop out.
>> But this guy looks like a Lobster just "cooked" - a deep RED.
>> 
>> There is a tool in LR, Develop Module - HSL - for all the three,
>> Hue/Saturation/Luminance.
>> You click on the little faint Circle on the top LHS in the module.
>> Then move your mouse to the point
>> on the photo you wish to correct the Color or Skin Tone.
>> 
>> I clicked on the guys NOSE first with Hue. Left click & hold while you
>> move the mouse Up or Down.
>> You will see the color(s) changing. Do this with the other two till
>> you get a good Skin Tone.
>> 
>> Save your work. Here is the sample. Sorry for not taking your
>> permission before hand Bob.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i2jnahg5a0bypcy/AAAlP2ASg6ZJa46q4DP-T7aEa?dl=0
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Bipin
>> camp: San Mateo California
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Re: OT: Congratulations to our British and American colleagues

2016-07-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 11/7/16, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Andy Murray did it again!
>>
>>Rule, Brittania! Rule, the courts! :-)
>>
>>And Williams sisters were amazing. Had a chance and watched good
>>portion of women doubles final - it was grand.
>>
>>Just saying...
>
>Not to mention Lewis Hamilton winning the British Grand Prix at Silverstone.
>
>Just adding

And Tom Sykes and Jonathan Rea splitting wins at the World Superbike
Championship races! (Which were at Laguna Seca in California)
 
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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hello Bipin. 
That's what they all look like without makeup.
Jostein 

Den 11. juli 2016 05.46.08 CEST, skrev Bipin Gupta :
>Hello Bob, I saw the lot of photos you attached and the particular 1:1
>crop.
>The photos are simply wonderful, well composed and the colors pop out.
>But this guy looks like a Lobster just "cooked" - a deep RED.
>
>There is a tool in LR, Develop Module - HSL - for all the three,
>Hue/Saturation/Luminance.
>You click on the little faint Circle on the top LHS in the module.
>Then move your mouse to the point
>on the photo you wish to correct the Color or Skin Tone.
>
>I clicked on the guys NOSE first with Hue. Left click & hold while you
>move the mouse Up or Down.
>You will see the color(s) changing. Do this with the other two till
>you get a good Skin Tone.
>
>Save your work. Here is the sample. Sorry for not taking your
>permission before hand Bob.
>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i2jnahg5a0bypcy/AAAlP2ASg6ZJa46q4DP-T7aEa?dl=0
>
>Regards.
>Bipin
>camp: San Mateo California

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RE: Gone

2016-07-11 Thread John Coyle
I'm sure you'll be missing both Gracie and your daughter terribly, Paul, one 
can only hope that Houston works for them both.  Like so many others on the 
list, I almost feel I know Gracie after so many photos of her, and showing her 
being very happy living with you.  It was surely a very precious time, and 
hopefully she will never forget it.


John in Brisbane




>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Grace arrived 11 years ago on a flight from Scotland to Detroit, via 
>> Baltimore. It was an escape I had arranged, and I couldn’t breathe easy  
>> until I saw Grace and her mother descending the escalator from the flight 
>> deck. My wife and I met them and took them  home. The next morning I got 
>> down on the floor and talked to Gracie — and photographed her — and we began 
>> to establish a powerful bond that included all manner of things, including 
>> cameras. In the years that followed there were parties, trips to the beach, 
>> an endless number of days at the park, games, meals, some wonderful friends 
>> in the neighborhood and more. And through it all, Gracie was my partner, and 
>> I documented it in photos, some 3,000 I believe. But the end was always 
>> inevitable and yesterday it came to pass at 8:40 am as Grace and her mother 
>> left for a new life in Houston, Texas. I had steeled myself against the 
>> inevitable, but once their truck was out of site, the tears flowed. Today 
>> hasn’t been easy, but I have learned about moving on, and I’m working on 
>> that. I’ll be good, and I trust that Gracie will as well. But I will love 
>> her deeply until the day I die. 
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259241
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Re: OT: Congratulations to our British and American colleagues

2016-07-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/7/16, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Andy Murray did it again!
>
>Rule, Brittania! Rule, the courts! :-)
>
>And Williams sisters were amazing. Had a chance and watched good
>portion of women doubles final - it was grand.
>
>Just saying...

Not to mention Lewis Hamilton winning the British Grand Prix at Silverstone.

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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
Hi Bipin,

Thanks for looking and commenting. The link you posted doesn't work.

That guy really is that colour. That's what happens when Englishmen go out in 
midday sun.

B

> On 11 Jul 2016, at 04:47, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> 
> Hello Bob, I saw the lot of photos you attached and the particular 1:1 crop.
> The photos are simply wonderful, well composed and the colors pop out.
> But this guy looks like a Lobster just "cooked" - a deep RED.
> 
> There is a tool in LR, Develop Module - HSL - for all the three,
> Hue/Saturation/Luminance.
> You click on the little faint Circle on the top LHS in the module.
> Then move your mouse to the point
> on the photo you wish to correct the Color or Skin Tone.
> 
> I clicked on the guys NOSE first with Hue. Left click & hold while you
> move the mouse Up or Down.
> You will see the color(s) changing. Do this with the other two till
> you get a good Skin Tone.
> 
> Save your work. Here is the sample. Sorry for not taking your
> permission before hand Bob.
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i2jnahg5a0bypcy/AAAlP2ASg6ZJa46q4DP-T7aEa?dl=0
> 
> Regards.
> Bipin
> camp: San Mateo California
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Re: Gone

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
That's very touching, and I'm sure she knows that. It's been a pleasure to 
witness.

> On 11 Jul 2016, at 02:02, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Grace arrived 11 years ago on a flight from Scotland to Detroit, via 
> Baltimore. It was an escape I had arranged, and I couldn’t breathe easy  
> until I saw Grace and her mother descending the escalator from the flight 
> deck. My wife and I met them and took them  home. The next morning I got down 
> on the floor and talked to Gracie — and photographed her — and we began to 
> establish a powerful bond that included all manner of things, including 
> cameras. In the years that followed there were parties, trips to the beach, 
> an endless number of days at the park, games, meals, some wonderful friends 
> in the neighborhood and more. And through it all, Gracie was my partner, and 
> I documented it in photos, some 3,000 I believe. But the end was always 
> inevitable and yesterday it came to pass at 8:40 am as Grace and her mother 
> left for a new life in Houston, Texas. I had steeled myself against the 
> inevitable, but once their truck was out of site, the tears flowed. Today 
> hasn’t been easy, but I have learned about moving on, and I’m working on 
> that. I’ll be good, and I trust that Gracie will as well. But I will love her 
> deeply until the day I die. 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18259241
> 
> 
> 
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Re: First 24x36 digital

2016-07-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
Thanks, I'll try not disappoint.

B

> On 11 Jul 2016, at 05:02, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> 
> Looking good to me...
> 
> So, Bob, you did Crexit and joined the fool's frame army, didn't you? :-)
> 
> I should be looking forward for some seriously 262 style photos from you.
> 
> Boris
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> A few weeks ago I bought a used Leica M typ-262, which is my first 24x36mm
>> digital camera. I haven't had chance to use it until earlier this evening,
>> when I took it for an hour's walk along the river in the late evening light.
>> The aim was to get colour and light, and see how I liked using it (a lot!).
>> 
>> Apart from the first, and the 'Discover Greenwich' one where I slightly
>> adjusted the verticals, these are uncropped. Processed in Lightroom: Medium
>> contrast curve preset; Punch preset; Sharpen preset.
>> 
>> On one or two of them you can see some vignetting. This is because they were
>> shot on my 35/1.4 lens, whose hood is so battered it intrudes. I need to buy
>> a new one. Other lenses: 50/2; 90/2.8.
>> 
>> It's very nice to be shooting 24x36 again, and it is really a lovely camera
>> to use. Very happy with the results.
>> 
>> http://www.web-options.com/T262/
>> 
>> B
>> 
>> p.s. the parrot is only resting.
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PESO 2016 - 132, 133, 134 - GDG

2016-07-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Three from this morning's quick walk around the neighborhood. 

 https://flic.kr/p/J5Bz3g
 https://flic.kr/p/J5ByW4
 https://flic.kr/p/J5ByND

enjoy! 
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