Re: Travel tripod suggestions?

2022-05-20 Thread Bill
On Fri., May 20, 2022, 5:27 p.m. Ralf R Radermacher, 
wrote:

> Am 20.05.22 um 16:32 schrieb Bill:
>
> > It could just be that Manfrotto is the General Motors of tripods, but my
> > experience with the 055 was such that when I went looking for a
> > replacement, lever locks were at the top of my avoid this crap list and
> > Manfrotto was not on my radar at all.
>
> I had a 055 and the main prob with those Manfrottos is anoter one. I call
> it the Manfrotto twist. Put a camera with a longer lens on top, then
> grip the camera, rotate it around its vertical axis and watch how the
> legs bend around.
>
> This holds true for many tripods with tube-stye legs but seems to be
> worst with Manfrotto.
>
> I'm using a Berlebach wood tripod. Admitedly nothing you'd want to take
> along for air travel (although I've done just that) but it's the only
> tripod I know that doesn't weight a ton and can be used with long lenses
> even in gale-force winds.
>
> Ralf
>

My long lens tripod is a Zone VI Standard wood tripod that i originalky
bought to use with my 4x5. I don't know offhand what it weighs  but it is
substantial. I took off the Bogen (Manfrotto) head that it came with and
put a Wimberley gimbal on it and have more or less dedicated it to my 600mm.

To be fair to Manfrotto, I have their 028 Triman, and it seems solid enough
and the leg locks are a simple grub screw style. I haven't tried the twist
test with it. I probably haven't used it in 20 years.

I mihht try twist testing my Feisol tripods and see how they fare. The
Tournament is very lightly built. I don't know how much torque the saddle
will take.

bill

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Re: Travel tripod suggestions?

2022-05-20 Thread Larry Colen


> On May 20, 2022, at 3:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> 
> This should be of interest to you: https://thecentercolumn.com
> Independent tripod testing, looking at all manner of attributes. 

Excellent, thank you, I’ve been wanting to find something like that for ages.


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Re: Travel tripod suggestions?

2022-05-20 Thread Larry Colen


> On May 20, 2022, at 7:28 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I don't use any of the other PD capture gizmos. That's not how I carry a 
> camera. :)
> 
> You don't really need PD plates. The PDTT is completely compatible with ALL 
> of my Arca-Swiss classic plates. Its standard head is a bit limited in its 
> movements and precision, but is satisfactory for most of what I do when I'm 
> using a travel tripod. The option to fit a flat mount plate and a more 
> standard head for those occasions when it's preferable is great. (In fact, 
> you can keep the flat mount plate and head assembled and use just that 
> component without the rest of the PDTT column for best rigidity, when 
> desired.)

I’d be interested in seeing it in person sometime.  That’s really the only way 
to check it out.  

> 
> The Gitzo travel tripods would be my second pick, but I don't know the range 
> very well at this time. I don't use any heads that don't have an Arca-Swiss 
> type QR system. I've been using the PDTT since about 2018.

There are a few possibilities out there.  I find it very frustrating that there 
are not any standard metrics for how well tripods actually work.  I suspect 
that “weight capacity” on tripods is kind of like the “max power” of stereos. 
Yeah, it’s 100W, but that’s at 20%THD into 2 Ohms.  Even so that doesn’t 
measure stiffness, dampening etc. much less separating the effects of the head 
from the base.

It’s also hard to get a simple comparison across different models, the ads tend 
to be good at obfuscating what I’m looking for.  I may need to simply put 
together a spreadsheet that compares everything.  

The Vanguard Veo might be interesting.  There is also a Sirui(?) that’s only 
$100 that might work as an interim solution.  



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Re: Travel tripod suggestions?

2022-05-20 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 20.05.22 um 16:32 schrieb Bill:


It could just be that Manfrotto is the General Motors of tripods, but my
experience with the 055 was such that when I went looking for a
replacement, lever locks were at the top of my avoid this crap list and
Manfrotto was not on my radar at all.


I had a 055 and te main prob with those Manfrottos is anoter one. I call
it the Manfrotto twist. Put a camera with a longer lens on top, then
grip the camera, rotate it around its vertical axis and watch how the
legs bend around.

This holds true for many tripods with tube-stye legs but seems to be
worst with Manfrotto.

I'm using a Berlebach wood tripod. Admitedly nothing you'd want to take
along for air travel (although I've done just that) but it's the only
tripod I know that doesn't weight a ton and can be used with long lenses
even in gale-force winds.

Ralf

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Re: Travel tripod suggestions?

2022-05-20 Thread Bill

On 5/19/2022 4:19 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

I changed from a tripod with a twist lock to one with a flip lock. It may
be worse with dirt, but is so more convenient to quickly set up.
And it won't slide down when fixed, as happened so often with twist lock..

Henk



I did exactly the opposite. I had a Manfrotto 055 which I could never 
get the lever locks to work right. If they were adjusted so that when 
engaged the legs wouldn't collapse under the weight of the camera, they 
wouldn't allow the legs to loosen enough to be collapsed, and if the 
levers were adjusted so that the legs could be extended or retracted, 
the legs would collapse under the weight of the camera.

The thing was pretty much unusable because of the craptastic lever locks.
It could just be that Manfrotto is the General Motors of tripods, but my 
experience with the 055 was such that when I went looking for a 
replacement, lever locks were at the top of my avoid this crap list and 
Manfrotto was not on my radar at all.
The twist locks on the Feisol tripods are secure and are easy to adjust. 
Both my Traveller and my somewhat (well, a lot ) heavier Tournament 
tripods have never had any issues with leg creep. The only thing I don't 
like about mine is that if the lower locks are tightened more than the 
upper ones the entire inner lower leg will twist when trying to loosen 
the lock rather than allowing the lock to loosen. The new ones have 
corrected this problem as the leg sections will no longer twist inside 
the upper sections.
I've never had a problem with dirt jamming up any tripod, but my 
experience in this regard might be unique.


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Re: Travel tripod suggestions?

2022-05-20 Thread Toine
Collapsed it's the smallest of all full size tripods. If you don't like the
PD concept of capture plates connected on their bags and the camera straps
(which connect to their plates) the tripod on itself is a strange beast
with a very annoying head if you don't have pd plates on everything. I got
hooked to the PD (capture) system after that the tripod had to come next,
just in case I need a tripod (which I hate to use and even more hate to
carry around).
You can swap the head and mount any tripod head, if that's the case a
travel tripod from sirui or manfrotto makes more sense and probably is
smaller once collapsed

On Fri, 20 May 2022 at 08:59, Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> > On May 19, 2022, at 11:22 PM, Toine  wrote:
> >
> > Carbon is less weight. The rest is identical its both so light weight the
> > bag hook is really needed in windy conditions. I have the carbon version
> > and to my surprise the center column is solid metal, its so small carbon
> > wouldnt work
>
> OK, I see, 1.56 vs 1.29 kg
>
> I see that several of you really like it, what makes it so special?
>
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Re: PESO: an emerging four-spotted chaser (skimmer)

2022-05-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great moment, well photographed.

Paul

> On May 20, 2022, at 8:21 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Henk -- beautiful capture and it certainly shows clearly what is going on...
> I hardly go to flkr but I got on to give it some love
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 5/20/2022 2:26 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>> correction: dragonflies not butterflies
>> 
>> Op vr 20 mei 2022 om 08:22 schreef Henk Terhell :
>> 
>>> Ann, I made some more shots on emerging four-spotted butterflies. Here is
>>> one which shows the emerging process quite well.
>>> https://flic.kr/p/2nmE3Fu
>>> 
>>> Op wo 11 mei 2022 om 01:03 schreef ann sanfedele :
>>> 
 
 Henk the "full glory" shot is beautiful... I can't parse exactly what is
 going on there in the others..
 
 ann
 
 
 
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Re: PESO: an emerging four-spotted chaser (skimmer)

2022-05-20 Thread ann sanfedele
Henk -- beautiful capture and it certainly shows clearly what is going 
on...

I hardly go to flkr but I got on to give it some love

ann

On 5/20/2022 2:26 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

correction: dragonflies not butterflies

Op vr 20 mei 2022 om 08:22 schreef Henk Terhell :


Ann, I made some more shots on emerging four-spotted butterflies. Here is
one which shows the emerging process quite well.
https://flic.kr/p/2nmE3Fu

Op wo 11 mei 2022 om 01:03 schreef ann sanfedele :



Henk the "full glory" shot is beautiful... I can't parse exactly what is
going on there in the others..

ann




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Re: Travel tripod suggestions?

2022-05-20 Thread Larry Colen



> On May 19, 2022, at 11:22 PM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> Carbon is less weight. The rest is identical its both so light weight the
> bag hook is really needed in windy conditions. I have the carbon version
> and to my surprise the center column is solid metal, its so small carbon
> wouldnt work

OK, I see, 1.56 vs 1.29 kg 

I see that several of you really like it, what makes it so special?


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Re: PESO: an emerging four-spotted chaser (skimmer)

2022-05-20 Thread Henk Terhell
correction: dragonflies not butterflies

Op vr 20 mei 2022 om 08:22 schreef Henk Terhell :

> Ann, I made some more shots on emerging four-spotted butterflies. Here is
> one which shows the emerging process quite well.
> https://flic.kr/p/2nmE3Fu
>
> Op wo 11 mei 2022 om 01:03 schreef ann sanfedele :
>
>>
>>
>> Henk the "full glory" shot is beautiful... I can't parse exactly what is
>> going on there in the others..
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
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Re: Travel tripod suggestions?

2022-05-20 Thread Toine
Carbon is less weight. The rest is identical its both so light weight the
bag hook is really needed in windy conditions. I have the carbon version
and to my surprise the center column is solid metal, its so small carbon
wouldnt work

On Fri, 20 May 2022, 05:44 Larry Colen,  wrote:

>
>
> > On May 17, 2022, at 11:27 PM, Toine  wrote:
> >
> > If I use a tripod its PD. You probably need some additional pd plates. L
> > brackets etc. Dont fit without removing the protection pins on the head.
> > They also have pd plates which fit on both arca and manfrotto.
> > And pd has real lifetime warranty! I was very impressed when a zipper
> > failed on a bag and the rubber part on a plate was lost in the field.
> They
> > directly send a new bag and new plate.
> >
>
> The PD aluminum is a lot more affordable than the carbon fiber.  Any
> significant difference in weight and sturdiness?
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Re: PESO: an emerging four-spotted chaser (skimmer)

2022-05-20 Thread Henk Terhell
Ann, I made some more shots on emerging four-spotted butterflies. Here is
one which shows the emerging process quite well.
https://flic.kr/p/2nmE3Fu

Op wo 11 mei 2022 om 01:03 schreef ann sanfedele :

>
>
> Henk the "full glory" shot is beautiful... I can't parse exactly what is
> going on there in the others..
>
> ann
>
>
>
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