Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/22 Thu PM 05:30:16 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 10:33:50AM +, mike wilson wrote: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 04:00:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Family List? PDML?? Adams family. Uncle Fester That would be Addams family, then. I thought, with it being American and all, I was using a Slurvian keyboard. Can't think of any more excuses. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
I got 13/16, and the urinal (tsk,tsk, Bob) got me too! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: RE: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Doesn't matter. You made me look at the page and I spotted a link labelled What is Art? which seems to hold the promise of answering a question which has troubled better brains than mine for centuries. Sure enough, Ken tells us. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/art.htm There's even a test at the end. That means I can throw some of my books away and make a bit of space on my floor. The universities can close their art history departments and use the money for something useful which advances our culture, like management studies or social sciences. The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour. Skip his pages, and go straight to the test: http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. Cheers, Bobasso -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Dysfunctional Family. Cheers, Dave At 01:00 PM 22/03/2007, Brian Walters wrote: Family List? PDML?? Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: He can't be a total wanker, he has a son. Unless the conception was done through a straw... (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either). Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour. Skip his pages, and go straight to the test: http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. 15/16 I can't tell the difference between food and art, apparently. Which explains a lot - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/21 Wed PM 10:47:06 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of credibility does someone have if they can write Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers. It's this sort of thing that makes him such a total arse, frankly, in the way he blithely dismisses almost every photojournalist of the last 60 years as 'newsguys' and not 'serious photographers'. What a wanker. To say nothing of his assumption that amateurs are not serious photographers. If this wasn't a family list I'd call him a Gareth. -- Bob I've known some very nice Gareths. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Lacus Sent: 21 March 2007 22:04 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all crap in there anyway. BTW have you noticed: Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of the driving forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know what light meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters. It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like this. Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers, like Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format SLR system which still creates images far better technically than anything from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 35mm cameras or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large format gear for serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.) Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon. these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 04:00:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Family List? PDML?? Adams family. Uncle Fester Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: He can't be a total wanker, he has a son. Unless the conception was done through a straw... (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- Click to find great rates on life insurance, save big, shop here http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJkoHoboXHPHKsenQi7OtEZG72K/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
Manson family... mike wilson wrote: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 04:00:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Family List? PDML?? Adams family. Uncle Fester Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: He can't be a total wanker, he has a son. Unless the conception was done through a straw... (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- Click to find great rates on life insurance, save big, shop here http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJkoHoboXHPHKsenQi7OtEZG72K/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 10:33:50AM +, mike wilson wrote: From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 04:00:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Family List? PDML?? Adams family. Uncle Fester That would be Addams family, then. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
On 3/21/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't matter. You made me look at the page and I spotted a link labelled What is Art? which seems to hold the promise of answering a question which has troubled better brains than mine for centuries. Sure enough, Ken tells us. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/art.htm There's even a test at the end. That means I can throw some of my books away and make a bit of space on my floor. The universities can close their art history departments and use the money for something useful which advances our culture, like management studies or social sciences. The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour. Skip his pages, and go straight to the test: http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. My problem with art, is that seeing it on a page doesn't tell me if it's art. If it's in (for instance) an art gallery, I know it's art. Unless maybe it's just the furniture. Okay, I have to admit once I went into a washroom and got confused - thought it was a Dada gallery or something. I spent 1/2 an hour watching the performace artists, until I realized they were just pissing... I took Ken's test, guessed that everything was art, and scored 50%. I know I've resisted being called an artist in the past, and reading Ken's little thesis only confirms that I'm on the right track... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
I don't think that Ken would know art if he slapped his face. Ken stole that quiz from someone else.. frank theriault wrote: On 3/22/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If it's in (for instance) an art gallery, I know it's art. Unless maybe it's just the furniture. snip Wait! I just reread Ken's art thang, and it turns out that furniture is art! Well, this certainly simplifies my life, doesn't it? (OTOH, he's never seen my furniture - he might change his mind about furniture being art were he ever in my apartment) cheers, frank -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
On 3/22/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dysfunctional Family. No way can i spell that Dave Cheers, Dave At 01:00 PM 22/03/2007, Brian Walters wrote: Family List? PDML?? Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: He can't be a total wanker, he has a son. Unless the conception was done through a straw... (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either). Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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At 09:36 AM 23/03/2007, David J Brooks wrote: On 3/22/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dysfunctional Family. No way can i spell that Dave I'm a shockingly bad speller generally, but my spell checker works pretty good :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Boris Liberman wrote: I thought Chuck Norris was pretty good at karate... Nobody's perfect, but Ken Rockwell. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my ass laughing. My one question. Has anyone sent him a link? If anyone does, he'll put it in his Tributes section. David Savage wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On a related note, Kenny boy seems to have discovered camera settings. I won't post a link, I'll leave finding it as an exercise for the student. mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my ass laughing. My one question. Has anyone sent him a link? If anyone does, he'll put it in his Tributes section. David Savage wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/21 Wed PM 01:31:23 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer On a related note, Kenny boy seems to have discovered camera settings. I won't post a link, I'll leave finding it as an exercise for the student. Easy peasy. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dst.htm 8- mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my ass laughing. My one question. Has anyone sent him a link? If anyone does, he'll put it in his Tributes section. David Savage wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I thought his entire website was a tributes section, to himself. mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my ass laughing. My one question. Has anyone sent him a link? If anyone does, he'll put it in his Tributes section. David Savage wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I was referring to this http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm but your's is so much better, err.. worse, err... amusing, err... frightening, yes that's it frightening, since Kenny boy actually seem to be linked to from at least one reputable photography related web site. Scroll down to PMA 2007 show reports. http://www.steves-digicams.com/pma2007_index.html Pity the poor nube who ends up there, especially one with no sense of irony or history. mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/21 Wed PM 01:31:23 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer On a related note, Kenny boy seems to have discovered camera settings. I won't post a link, I'll leave finding it as an exercise for the student. Easy peasy. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dst.htm 8- mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/21 Wed AM 05:33:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my ass laughing. My one question. Has anyone sent him a link? If anyone does, he'll put it in his Tributes section. David Savage wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/21/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was referring to this http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm Classic. The very first link in the introduction says skip the examples. Takes one right to the examples. Go figure. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ken counted to infinity, twice Dave On 3/21/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/21/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was referring to this http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm Classic. The very first link in the introduction says skip the examples. Takes one right to the examples. Go figure. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/21 Wed PM 01:24:07 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer On 3/21/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was referring to this http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm Classic. The very first link in the introduction says skip the examples. Takes one right to the examples. Go figure. I think the whole site is the demeted, jealous outpourings of his evil, central-European half-sibling Ren Kockwell. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You guys are just jealous because Ken's thing is bigger than yours.* I believe some one once said there is no such thing as a boring photographic subject. This thread proves him wrong. -grayolf *Ego, what did you think I meant? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 09:24:07AM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm Classic. The very first link in the introduction says skip the examples. Takes one right to the examples. Go figure. Perhaps the fact that the link says Skip *TO* the examples (my emphasis) might go some way to explain this behaviour ... Gah! Misread it. Pardon me while I remove my foot from my mouth. Again. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/21/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Wait guys: At first I thought it was a tribute site, but the more I read, the more I'm thinking they're actually making fun of him. That's not very nice... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John Francis wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 09:24:07AM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm Classic. The very first link in the introduction says skip the examples. Takes one right to the examples. Go figure. Perhaps the fact that the link says Skip *TO* the examples (my emphasis) might go some way to explain this behaviour ... Gah! Misread it. Pardon me while I remove my foot from my mouth. Again. Doesn't matter. You made me look at the page and I spotted a link labelled What is Art? which seems to hold the promise of answering a question which has troubled better brains than mine for centuries. Sure enough, Ken tells us. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/art.htm There's even a test at the end. That means I can throw some of my books away and make a bit of space on my floor. The universities can close their art history departments and use the money for something useful which advances our culture, like management studies or social sciences. The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour. Skip his pages, and go straight to the test: http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. Cheers, Bobasso -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all crap in there anyway. BTW have you noticed: Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of the driving forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know what light meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters. It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like this. Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers, like Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format SLR system which still creates images far better technically than anything from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 35mm cameras or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large format gear for serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.) Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon. these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of credibility does someone have if they can write Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers. It's this sort of thing that makes him such a total arse, frankly, in the way he blithely dismisses almost every photojournalist of the last 60 years as 'newsguys' and not 'serious photographers'. What a wanker. To say nothing of his assumption that amateurs are not serious photographers. If this wasn't a family list I'd call him a Gareth. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Lacus Sent: 21 March 2007 22:04 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all crap in there anyway. BTW have you noticed: Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of the driving forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know what light meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters. It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like this. Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers, like Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format SLR system which still creates images far better technically than anything from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 35mm cameras or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large format gear for serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.) Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon. these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It's not like Kenny actually came up with the quiz on his own. It figures that the best thing on his web site would pirated from someone else. Bob W wrote: John Francis wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 09:24:07AM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/camera-adjustments.htm Classic. The very first link in the introduction says skip the examples. Takes one right to the examples. Go figure. Perhaps the fact that the link says Skip *TO* the examples (my emphasis) might go some way to explain this behaviour ... Gah! Misread it. Pardon me while I remove my foot from my mouth. Again. Doesn't matter. You made me look at the page and I spotted a link labelled What is Art? which seems to hold the promise of answering a question which has troubled better brains than mine for centuries. Sure enough, Ken tells us. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/art.htm There's even a test at the end. That means I can throw some of my books away and make a bit of space on my floor. The universities can close their art history departments and use the money for something useful which advances our culture, like management studies or social sciences. The test is great actually, and shows that Ken has a sense of humour. Skip his pages, and go straight to the test: http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. Cheers, Bobasso -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bob, Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of credibility does someone have if they can write Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers. apparently I'm filtering such nonsense stuff automatically at some unconscious level. He is often quite right, but I agree, his style is not the best possible (yet I haven't found it to be too distracting. Which, of course, I can't say about his auto portraits. ;-)). Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I like the art quiz at http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/21/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of credibility does someone have if they can write Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers. It's this sort of thing that makes him such a total arse, frankly, in the way he blithely dismisses almost every photojournalist of the last 60 years as 'newsguys' and not 'serious photographers'. What a wanker. To say nothing of his assumption that amateurs are not serious photographers. If this wasn't a family list I'd call him a Gareth. You just did Dave -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Lacus Sent: 21 March 2007 22:04 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all crap in there anyway. BTW have you noticed: Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of the driving forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know what light meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters. It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like this. Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers, like Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format SLR system which still creates images far better technically than anything from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 35mm cameras or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large format gear for serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.) Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon. these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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He can't be a total wanker, he has a son. Unless the conception was done through a straw... (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either). Bob W wrote: Well, nice to hear him say that about Pentax, but what sort of credibility does someone have if they can write Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers. It's this sort of thing that makes him such a total arse, frankly, in the way he blithely dismisses almost every photojournalist of the last 60 years as 'newsguys' and not 'serious photographers'. What a wanker. To say nothing of his assumption that amateurs are not serious photographers. If this wasn't a family list I'd call him a Gareth. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Lacus Sent: 21 March 2007 22:04 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/# I got 12/16, which was a bit disappointing, but I didn't understand that some of it was not art, and the pisspot suckered me. I scored 8/16, e.g. truly random, but I think they are all crap in there anyway. BTW have you noticed: Pentax' ads were cute, but very sad. Pentax has been one of the driving forces in Japanese photo gear for many decades. Want to know what light meter Ansel Adams used? He used the Pentax spotmeters. It's sad that Pentax has to grovel to Canon and Nikon like this. Neither Canon nor Nikon ever made anything used by serious photographers, like Ansel's light meters or the extraordinary Pentax 67 medium-format SLR system which still creates images far better technically than anything from Nikon or Canon. Canon and Nikon have only made piddly 35mm cameras or digital SLRs used by amateurs and newsguys, not large format gear for serious artists (Nikon does make view camera lenses.) Pentax shouldn't have to supplicate itself to Canon and Nikon. these words wrote the same Ken Rockwell http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/pma07-b.htm Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Family List? PDML?? Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: He can't be a total wanker, he has a son. Unless the conception was done through a straw... (What I wanted to say wouldn't have fit on a family list either). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- Click to find great rates on life insurance, save big, shop here http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJkoHoboXHPHKsenQi7OtEZG72K/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Facts about the PDML's favorite photographer
This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks for the laughs. This one is my favorite: Ken Rockwell ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one. On 3/21/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/20/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. That's the best thing I've read all week. -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Oh my Lord, a work of genius, I nearly fell out of my chair and broke my ass laughing. My one question. Has anyone sent him a link? David Savage wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Scott Loveless wrote: Thanks for the laughs. This one is my favorite: Ken Rockwell ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one. I particularly like Ken Rockwell is the only one who can take self-portraits of you Partly because there was a craigslist wanted listing for someone who wanted a photographer to take his self-portrait - I swear... send Ken right over ann On 3/21/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I thought Chuck Norris was pretty good at karate... But boy, this is really good. Thanks, Dave! David Savage wrote: This was posted over at DPReview: http://www.bahneman.com/liem/blog/article.php?story=Ken_Rockwell_Facts I've still got tears in my eyes. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
