Re: Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-22 Thread Jens
I guess you are right, PJ. But today very few people work with chemicals, although I know a few, that still do. I wonder if I can actually buy printing paper, toned in Sephia or blue? BTW: Sephia was originally Octopus ink. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated

RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-22 Thread Bob W
Monochrome = BW. If you toned or tint BW with a single color, it is still BW. This is not hard to understand... G Pink is the new black - Diana Vreeland Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Subject: Re: RE: Define Monochrome Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic societies have colour and monochrome as categories for exibitions and contests. I

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:59 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet if Scott ran a Monochrome PUG, you would get some sort of consensus. Consensus? On this list? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens Subject: Re: RE: Define Monochrome Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic societies have colour and monochrome as categories

Re: Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Jens
: - Original Message - From: Jens Subject: Re: RE: Define Monochrome Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic societies have colour and monochrome as categories for exibitions and contests

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Chemical/Silver sepia toned prints will have a mixture of black, (the darkest shades), and brown. Yet they are still considered BW err. monochrome photography. Just saying... Jens wrote: Perhaps. I have now come to the conclusion, that monochrome means One Colour. That is blue in blue,

RE: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Bob W
Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic societies have colour and monochrome as categories for exibitions and contests. I wanted to know if there is a gerally accepted definiton - and why.

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Bruce Walker
Bob W wrote: I bet if Scott ran a Monochrome PUG, you would get some sort of consensus. William Robb Wherever 3 PDMLers are gathered together, you will find at least 4 opinions. I agree and disagree with that. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: RE: Define Monochrome Wherever 3 PDMLers are gathered together, you will find at least 4 opinions. Hell, when Tom C and I got together last year there were two of us and seven opinions. We were Wiser for it. William Robb -- PDML

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Monochrome = BW. If you toned or tint BW with a single color, it is still BW. This is not hard to understand... G On Aug 20, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Jens wrote: Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic

OT: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Jens
Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? It seems the original definition is about painting with only one colour. Black. For instance - on white paper or canvas. This gives me a problem: Black White - that's two

Re: OT: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread David Savage
Technically, neither black or white are colours. 2008/8/20 Jens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So why is yellow and blue, or red and green etc. not acceptable within the definition of monochrome? Or is it ? Kinda goes against the definition: Mono = One Chrome is a variation of the Greek word (?) Chroma

Re: OT: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Jens wrote: Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? The only way I seem to be able to understand the monochrome definition is this: In monohrome photography we paint with light in the darkness. With white on

Re: OT: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:20 AM, Jens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? It seems the original definition is about painting with only one colour. Black. For instance - on white paper or

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Subject: OT: Define Monochrome Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? It seems the original definition is about painting with only one colour. Black. For instance

RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Bob W
August 2008 09:21 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Define Monochrome Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? It seems the original definition is about painting with only one colour. Black. For instance

Re: OT: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Monochrome is any single color, on a white (or black), background. That's about it, any number of intermediate shades between all Color, (or Black), and no Color, (or White), is acceptable. Jens wrote: Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Jens
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Sent: 20 August 2008 09:21 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Define Monochrome Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? It seems the original definition

Re: Re: OT: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Jens
All shades of grey. That's a good one to remember, Scott. You may be right, there. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 20, 2008 14:32 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jens wrote: Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is

Re: OT: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
Monochrome is any single color, on a white (or black), background. That's about it, any number of intermediate shades between all Color, (or Black), and no Color, (or White), is acceptable. Jens wrote: Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the

RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Paul Ewins
- Subject: OT: Define Monochrome Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

RE: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Bob W
Subject: OT: Define Monochrome Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? It seems the original definition is about painting with only one colour. Black. For instance - on white paper or canvas

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: RE: Define Monochrome Up to you, of course, but Bill's notion about a substrate is mistaken. Without a substrate of some sort, you don't really have a picture, do you? I meant that the substrate is generally white, if that helps

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: RE: Define Monochrome Up to you, of course, but Bill's notion about a substrate is mistaken. Without a substrate of some sort, you don't really have a picture, do you? I meant that the substrate is generally

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: RE: Define Monochrome Up to you, of course, but Bill's notion about a substrate is mistaken. Without a substrate of some sort, you don't really have a picture, do you? I meant

RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread John Coyle
,, therefore not 'mono'. HTH! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 6:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Define Monochrome Hello list In my camera club we had

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Jens
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 6:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Define Monochrome Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? It seems the original