Re: Just checking

[John Sessoms]

There's a known conflict between Yahoo and Gmail that affects mailing lists like 
the PDML. It started a few years back when Yahoo changed something. There was a 
fairly long discussion here on PDML at the time.


I think it's mostly Yahoo's fault, but some of the blame spills over onto Gmail.

On 7/14/2018 10:23, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

John:

All your PDML posts go to my Spam folder, with this message:



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On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:11 AM, John Sessoms 
wrote:


I don't think it was me. I hope it wasn't me. Yahoo is the last remaining
email account I can use to post to PDML.

I don't want to have to go through the crap I had to go through with
RoadRunner & get another new email account, especially when the Earthlink
account I got has its own problems with PDML's SPAM filter (about half the
time one or more of Earthlink's server IP addresses is on
SpamEatingMonkey's shit list).

On 7/12/2018 11:31, Doug Brewer wrote:


An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to
excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML
server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain
bounce threshold.

A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the others
after compiling a list from the bounce notices.

I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has
increased toward the red line.

On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:


Not just gone but summarily booted out.

Apparently, it wasn't something I said.

On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:



you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:


to see if I came back from the dead.

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Re: Just checking

[Daniel J. Matyola]

John:

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On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:11 AM, John Sessoms 
wrote:

> I don't think it was me. I hope it wasn't me. Yahoo is the last remaining
> email account I can use to post to PDML.
>
> I don't want to have to go through the crap I had to go through with
> RoadRunner & get another new email account, especially when the Earthlink
> account I got has its own problems with PDML's SPAM filter (about half the
> time one or more of Earthlink's server IP addresses is on
> SpamEatingMonkey's shit list).
>
> On 7/12/2018 11:31, Doug Brewer wrote:
>
>> An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to
>> excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML
>> server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain
>> bounce threshold.
>>
>> A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the others
>> after compiling a list from the bounce notices.
>>
>> I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has
>> increased toward the red line.
>>
>> On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Not just gone but summarily booted out.
>>>
>>> Apparently, it wasn't something I said.
>>>
>>> On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:


 you were gone?

 ann

 On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

> to see if I came back from the dead.
>
> Sobekhotep VIII
>
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Re: Just checking

[John Sessoms]

I don't think it was me. I hope it wasn't me. Yahoo is the last remaining email 
account I can use to post to PDML.


I don't want to have to go through the crap I had to go through with RoadRunner 
& get another new email account, especially when the Earthlink account I got has 
its own problems with PDML's SPAM filter (about half the time one or more of 
Earthlink's server IP addresses is on SpamEatingMonkey's shit list).


On 7/12/2018 11:31, Doug Brewer wrote:
An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to excessive 
bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML server, according 
to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain bounce threshold.


A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the others after 
compiling a list from the bounce notices.


I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has increased 
toward the red line.


On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Not just gone but summarily booted out.

Apparently, it wasn't something I said.


On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:


you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

to see if I came back from the dead.

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Re: Just checking

[Alan C]

I unsubbed & resubbed yet I still receive no posts from Jack or AnnSan.

Alan C


On 12-Jul-18 06:07 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Your ISP would day that wouldn't it?  Mine does, also.  I don't believe it, 
though.  It seems to me that the most likely cause is some mutated spam filter 
somewhere along the pipe.



On 12 July 2018 at 16:24 Alan C  wrote:


I have exactly the same problem. Jack Davis & AnnSan primarily. I have
to do it the long way via the Archives. My ISP says nothing is wrong so
it must be a PDML glitch.

Alan C


On 12-Jul-18 05:14 PM, mike wilson wrote:

You're half right.  Not dead but puzzled as to why I miss so many (original) 
posts.  I see responses.
My spam bucket contains mainly my own posts, as is right and proper.



On 12 July 2018 at 13:31 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


I think he's still dead, just a little confused is all...


On 7/12/2018 8:19 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

to see if I came back from the dead.

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Re: Just checking

[d...@dougbrewerphoto.com]

I’ve been on this list for 22 years. Any question regarding my patience was 
filed away like long ago.

Sent from my evil super-villain lair

> On Jul 13, 2018, at 8:00 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> It took this long to red line your annoyance with Yahoo, you sir have the 
> patience of a saint.
> 
> 
>> On 7/12/2018 11:31 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
>> An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to 
>> excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML 
>> server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain 
>> bounce threshold.
>> 
>> A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the others 
>> after compiling a list from the bounce notices.
>> 
>> I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has 
>> increased toward the red line.
>> 
>>> On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>> Not just gone but summarily booted out.
>>> 
>>> Apparently, it wasn't something I said.
>>> 
 On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:
 
 
 you were gone?
 
 ann
 
> On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> to see if I came back from the dead.
> 
> Sobekhotep VIII
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Re: Just checking

[P. J. Alling]

It took this long to red line your annoyance with Yahoo, you sir have 
the patience of a saint.



On 7/12/2018 11:31 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to 
excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML 
server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain 
bounce threshold.


A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the 
others after compiling a list from the bounce notices.


I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has 
increased toward the red line.


On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Not just gone but summarily booted out.

Apparently, it wasn't something I said.


On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:


you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

to see if I came back from the dead.

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Re: Just checking

[mike wilson]

You do know that the universal PDML greeting is "Marnie, empty your mailbox"?  
The proper response being "Phalacrocorax".

> On 12 July 2018 at 18:09 "Marnie (aka Doe)"  wrote:
> 
> 
> This time I am NOT taking responsibility.
> 
> I no longer have AOL and am using Thunderbird to read a Comcast mail box 
> dedicated to PDML.
> 
> (On the other hand, just on principle, and because I couldn't get 
> Thunderbird to read PDML yesterday and last night, maybe I should take 
> responsibility. I mean, you know, the whole mail box thing and the fact 
> that Comcast had 999 messages stacked up for me.)
> 
> Marnie aka Doe :-)
> 
> On 7/12/2018 8:31 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> > An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to 
> > excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML 
> > server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain 
> > bounce threshold.
> > 
> > A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the 
> > others after compiling a list from the bounce notices.
> > 
> > I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has 
> > increased toward the red line.
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Re: Just checking

[ann sanfedele]

So Alan, you only see what I post when someone replies to it or I reply 
to someone else?


ann

On 7/12/2018 11:24 AM, Alan C wrote:
I have exactly the same problem. Jack Davis & AnnSan primarily. I have 
to do it the long way via the Archives. My ISP says nothing is wrong 
so it must be a PDML glitch.


Alan C


On 12-Jul-18 05:14 PM, mike wilson wrote:
You're half right.  Not dead but puzzled as to why I miss so many 
(original) posts.  I see responses.

My spam bucket contains mainly my own posts, as is right and proper.


On 12 July 2018 at 13:31 "P. J. Alling"  
wrote:



I think he's still dead, just a little confused is all...


On 7/12/2018 8:19 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

to see if I came back from the dead.

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Re: Just checking

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

This time I am NOT taking responsibility.

I no longer have AOL and am using Thunderbird to read a Comcast mail box 
dedicated to PDML.


(On the other hand, just on principle, and because I couldn't get 
Thunderbird to read PDML yesterday and last night, maybe I should take 
responsibility. I mean, you know, the whole mail box thing and the fact 
that Comcast had 999 messages stacked up for me.)


Marnie aka Doe :-)

On 7/12/2018 8:31 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to 
excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML 
server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain 
bounce threshold.


A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the 
others after compiling a list from the bounce notices.


I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has 
increased toward the red line.


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Re: Just checking

[mike wilson]

Your ISP would day that wouldn't it?  Mine does, also.  I don't believe it, 
though.  It seems to me that the most likely cause is some mutated spam filter 
somewhere along the pipe.


> On 12 July 2018 at 16:24 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have exactly the same problem. Jack Davis & AnnSan primarily. I have 
> to do it the long way via the Archives. My ISP says nothing is wrong so 
> it must be a PDML glitch.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> 
> On 12-Jul-18 05:14 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> > You're half right.  Not dead but puzzled as to why I miss so many 
> > (original) posts.  I see responses.
> > My spam bucket contains mainly my own posts, as is right and proper.
> >
> >
> >> On 12 July 2018 at 13:31 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I think he's still dead, just a little confused is all...
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/12/2018 8:19 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> >>> you were gone?
> >>>
> >>> ann
> >>>
> >>> On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>  to see if I came back from the dead.
> 
>  Sobekhotep VIII
> 
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Re: Just checking

[mike wilson]

Many thanks to you for the prompt response.  I was in the "I wonder if this is 
for real" stage, having checked at PDML central to see that unsubbing generated 
a confirmatory email, which I had not received, for quite a while.  By the time 
I was sure I was out (for some reason unkown to me at the time) you had already 
resubbed me. If I'd been asleep, I probably wouldn't have even known it had 
happened.

> On 12 July 2018 at 16:31 Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> 
> An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to 
> excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML 
> server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain 
> bounce threshold.
> 
> A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the 
> others after compiling a list from the bounce notices.
> 
> I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has 
> increased toward the red line.
> 
> On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > Not just gone but summarily booted out.
> > 
> > Apparently, it wasn't something I said.
> > 
> >> On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> you were gone?
> >>
> >> ann
> >>
> >> On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >>> to see if I came back from the dead.
> >>>
> >>> Sobekhotep VIII
> >>>
> >>
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Re: Just checking

[Doug Brewer]

An email from a member ticked off a number of guardians, leading to 
excessive bounces from around forty accounts, yours included. The PDML 
server, according to instructions, boots accounts that reach a certain 
bounce threshold.


A couple people, like Godfrey, just resubbed, and I added back the 
others after compiling a list from the bounce notices.


I think everything is straight now, and my annoyance with yahoo has 
increased toward the red line.


On 7/12/18 11:02 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Not just gone but summarily booted out.

Apparently, it wasn't something I said.


On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:


you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

to see if I came back from the dead.

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Re: Just checking

[Alan C]

I have exactly the same problem. Jack Davis & AnnSan primarily. I have 
to do it the long way via the Archives. My ISP says nothing is wrong so 
it must be a PDML glitch.


Alan C


On 12-Jul-18 05:14 PM, mike wilson wrote:

You're half right.  Not dead but puzzled as to why I miss so many (original) 
posts.  I see responses.
My spam bucket contains mainly my own posts, as is right and proper.



On 12 July 2018 at 13:31 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


I think he's still dead, just a little confused is all...


On 7/12/2018 8:19 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

to see if I came back from the dead.

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Re: Just checking

[mike wilson]

You're half right.  Not dead but puzzled as to why I miss so many (original) 
posts.  I see responses.
My spam bucket contains mainly my own posts, as is right and proper.


> On 12 July 2018 at 13:31 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think he's still dead, just a little confused is all...
> 
> 
> On 7/12/2018 8:19 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> > you were gone?
> >
> > ann
> >
> > On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> to see if I came back from the dead.
> >>
> >> Sobekhotep VIII
> >>
> >
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Re: Just checking

[mike wilson]

Not just gone but summarily booted out.

Apparently, it wasn't something I said.

> On 12 July 2018 at 13:19 ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> 
> you were gone?
> 
> ann
> 
> On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > to see if I came back from the dead.
> >
> > Sobekhotep VIII
> >
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Re: Just checking

[P. J. Alling]

I think he's still dead, just a little confused is all...


On 7/12/2018 8:19 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

to see if I came back from the dead.

Sobekhotep VIII





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Re: Just checking

[ann sanfedele]

you were gone?

ann

On 7/12/2018 4:08 AM, mike wilson wrote:

to see if I came back from the dead.

Sobekhotep VIII



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Just checking

[mike wilson]

to see if I came back from the dead.

Sobekhotep VIII

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