Re: PESO - Water Music

[John Sessoms]

I suspect an upright "console" or "spinet" piano. The back of the 
furniture would probably have enough buoyancy to float the smaller frame.


And I still think it's likely someone destroyed the piano before it 
entered the river so it may have more than just the soundboard.



On 11/18/2021 10:14 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Paul, the rectangular shape tells that it’s the frame, strings, and soundboard 
from an upright piano. I think that a flood could easly have torn away the 
cabinet and action, leaving this.

The cast-iron frame would weigh about 150-200 lbs, though, and a thin maple 
soundboard wouldn’t be bouyant enough to float it. How it got there remains a 
mystery-- though a raging torrent could have done it, I suppose.

Rick


On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

A flood can’t rip the sound board out of a piano. Pianos are hard to get 
dispose of, so some miscreants chop them up and dump them.


On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:12 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I though flood victim... - I guess it could be both..

ann

On 11/16/2021 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.

Paul


On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:

Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.

- Marco


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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Mark C]

Thanks, Rick - I had been wondering what kind of piano that came from. 
The soundboard was not far from the shore at all - a couple of yards at 
most. And a a nice concrete boat ramp was just a few feet out of the 
frame. It would have been easy for someone to lug it there and drop it 
in the water, hoping to see it float off, in which case they would have 
been disappointed...


Mark

On 11/18/2021 10:14 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Paul, the rectangular shape tells that it’s the frame, strings, and soundboard 
from an upright piano. I think that a flood could easly have torn away the 
cabinet and action, leaving this.

The cast-iron frame would weigh about 150-200 lbs, though, and a thin maple 
soundboard wouldn’t be bouyant enough to float it. How it got there remains a 
mystery-- though a raging torrent could have done it, I suppose.

Rick


On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

A flood can’t rip the sound board out of a piano. Pianos are hard to get 
dispose of, so some miscreants chop them up and dump them.


On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:12 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I though flood victim... - I guess it could be both..

ann

On 11/16/2021 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.

Paul


On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:

Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.

- Marco


On Nov 15, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Mark C  wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849

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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 18.11.21 um 16:14 schrieb Rick Womer:


The cast-iron frame would weigh about 150-200 lbs, though, and a thin maple 
soundboard wouldn’t be bouyant enough to float it. How it got there remains a 
mystery-- though a raging torrent could have done it, I suppose.


The raging torrents in Belgium last summer have shifted the most
incredible things, most of them not bouyant: cars, vans, office
containers... You name them, they've dragged them out of the river
Vesdre afterwards.

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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Rick Womer]

Paul, the rectangular shape tells that it’s the frame, strings, and soundboard 
from an upright piano. I think that a flood could easly have torn away the 
cabinet and action, leaving this.

The cast-iron frame would weigh about 150-200 lbs, though, and a thin maple 
soundboard wouldn’t be bouyant enough to float it. How it got there remains a 
mystery-- though a raging torrent could have done it, I suppose.

Rick

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> A flood can’t rip the sound board out of a piano. Pianos are hard to get 
> dispose of, so some miscreants chop them up and dump them.
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:12 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> I though flood victim... - I guess it could be both..
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> On 11/16/2021 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
 
 Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.
 
 - Marco
 
> On Nov 15, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849
> 
> Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting this 
> image - visited this spot today and remembered this shot. Today I didn't 
> manage to shoot out a whole roll of film - got 9 of 12 exposure in the 
> bag - so it will be a day or two before I finish up today's work.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Alan C]

Shows just how effective Roman technology was!

Alan C

On 17-Nov-21 09:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I saw a bit on TV a few years ago where they built a trebuchet and used to
to throw a piano quite some distance, to the great detriment of the piano.

like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQLYHt-DM0Q

https://www.youtube.com/embed/JQLYHt-DM0Q; title="YouTube video player"
frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write;
encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen>

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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I saw a bit on TV a few years ago where they built a trebuchet and used to
to throw a piano quite some distance, to the great detriment of the piano.

like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQLYHt-DM0Q

https://www.youtube.com/embed/JQLYHt-DM0Q; title="YouTube video player"
frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write;
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[John Sessoms]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq32ZqRODPY

Assholes!

On 11/16/2021 2:24 PM, Alan C wrote:
It appalls me that anyone would want to "throw away" a piano (& a grand 
piano nogal!). Surely a home could have been found for it even if it had 
to be repaired. My daughter in the UK says many people leave things like 
that on the sidewalk & they are gratefully "taken over" within hours.


Some years ago when we still had the Swiss Boogie Parachuting 
Championships in Phalaborwa, There was a stunt where a parachutist went 
out of the back of a CL-130 with a piano. He played a few bars on the 
way down before opening his 'chute & leaving the piano to its fate. It 
hit the ground next to the runway with a hell of a bang and shattered 
into a thousand pieces. What a waste.


Alan C

On 16-Nov-21 04:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
A flood can’t rip the sound board out of a piano. Pianos are hard to 
get dispose of, so some miscreants chop them up and dump them.



On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:12 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I though flood victim... - I guess it could be both..

ann

On 11/16/2021 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.

Paul


On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:

Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.

- Marco


On Nov 15, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Mark C  wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849

Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting 
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[John Sessoms]

For a while a couple years back there was some kind of YouTube trend 
taking old pianos & demolishing them. The people posting videos didn't 
seem to be too concerned with the trash they left behind.


On 11/15/2021 8:34 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Flood victim I'm guessing   sad... but love the photo..

ann

On 11/15/2021 8:13 PM, Mark C wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849

Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting this 
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Mark C]

Hi Ann -

Glad you liked the photo. I think Paul is right - we don't have much 
flooding and I don;t recall any activity last fall. It's common to find 
trash dumped in the woods and very common to find furniture and old 
TV's. But usually they are just hauled off to the woods and used for 
target practice. I've never found a piano though!


Mark




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On 11/16/2021 9:12 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I though flood victim... - I guess it could be both..

ann

On 11/16/2021 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.

Paul


On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:

Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.

- Marco


On Nov 15, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Mark C  wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849

Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting 
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Mark C]

Thanks, Dan. I rekindled my relationship with the 6x7 last year by 
finally switching to the waist level chimney finder with adjustable 
diopter. As my eyes got older,  focusing with the eye level finder 
become a guessing game. I've been using the 6x7 and also some 6x6 TLRs 
quite a bit lately.


Mark

On 11/15/2021 10:16 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Fascinating image!  I love the title as well.  Great eye and effective
composition.

I loved my old 6X7, and still miss it.  What a magnificent camera!

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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Paul Stenquist]

It often costs more to move an old and damaged piano than it’s worth

Paul

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> It appalls me that anyone would want to "throw away" a piano (& a grand 
> piano nogal!). Surely a home could have been found for it even if it had to 
> be repaired. My daughter in the UK says many people leave things like that on 
> the sidewalk & they are gratefully "taken over" within hours.
> 
> Some years ago when we still had the Swiss Boogie Parachuting Championships 
> in Phalaborwa, There was a stunt where a parachutist went out of the back of 
> a CL-130 with a piano. He played a few bars on the way down before opening 
> his 'chute & leaving the piano to its fate. It hit the ground next to the 
> runway with a hell of a bang and shattered into a thousand pieces. What a 
> waste.
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 16-Nov-21 04:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> A flood can’t rip the sound board out of a piano. Pianos are hard to get 
>> dispose of, so some miscreants chop them up and dump them.
>> 
 On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:12 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I though flood victim... - I guess it could be both..
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
>>> On 11/16/2021 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.
 
 Paul
 
> On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
> Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.
> 
> - Marco
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849
>> 
>> Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting this 
>> image - visited this spot today and remembered this shot. Today I didn't 
>> manage to shoot out a whole roll of film - got 9 of 12 exposure in the 
>> bag - so it will be a day or two before I finish up today's work.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Alan C]

It appalls me that anyone would want to "throw away" a piano (& a grand 
piano nogal!). Surely a home could have been found for it even if it had 
to be repaired. My daughter in the UK says many people leave things like 
that on the sidewalk & they are gratefully "taken over" within hours.


Some years ago when we still had the Swiss Boogie Parachuting 
Championships in Phalaborwa, There was a stunt where a parachutist went 
out of the back of a CL-130 with a piano. He played a few bars on the 
way down before opening his 'chute & leaving the piano to its fate. It 
hit the ground next to the runway with a hell of a bang and shattered 
into a thousand pieces. What a waste.


Alan C

On 16-Nov-21 04:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A flood can’t rip the sound board out of a piano. Pianos are hard to get 
dispose of, so some miscreants chop them up and dump them.


On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:12 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I though flood victim... - I guess it could be both..

ann

On 11/16/2021 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.

Paul


On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:

Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.

- Marco


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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 16.11.21 um 15:30 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

A flood can’t rip the sound board out of a piano. Pianos are hard to get 
dispose of, so some miscreants chop them up and dump them.


You obviously haven't seen the pictures from last summer's floods in
Belgium. Never underestimate the force of water.

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Re: PESO - Water Music

[ann sanfedele]

ah.. :-(

On 11/16/2021 9:30 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A flood can’t rip the sound board out of a piano. Pianos are hard to get 
dispose of, so some miscreants chop them up and dump them.


On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:12 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I though flood victim... - I guess it could be both..

ann

On 11/16/2021 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.

Paul


On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:

Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.

- Marco


On Nov 15, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Mark C  wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849

Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting this image - 
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[ann sanfedele]

I though flood victim... - I guess it could be both..

ann

On 11/16/2021 6:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.

Paul


On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:

Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.

- Marco


On Nov 15, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Mark C  wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849

Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting this image - 
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Paul Stenquist]

A sad story about illegal dumping, but a good catch my Mark.

Paul

> On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:46 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
> Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.
> 
> - Marco
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849
>> 
>> Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting this image 
>> - visited this spot today and remembered this shot. Today I didn't manage to 
>> shoot out a whole roll of film - got 9 of 12 exposure in the bag - so it 
>> will be a day or two before I finish up today's work.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Corey Leopold]

That's cool nice capture.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:13 PM Mark C  wrote:

> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849
>
> Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting this
> image - visited this spot today and remembered this shot. Today I didn't
> manage to shoot out a whole roll of film - got 9 of 12 exposure in the
> bag - so it will be a day or two before I finish up today's work.
>
> Mark
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Marco Alpert]

Man, there’s got to be a story about that. Great shot.

- Marco

> On Nov 15, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849
> 
> Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting this image 
> - visited this spot today and remembered this shot. Today I didn't manage to 
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> be a day or two before I finish up today's work.
> 
> Mark
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Fascinating image!  I love the title as well.  Great eye and effective
composition.

I loved my old 6X7, and still miss it.  What a magnificent camera!

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>
> Mark
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Re: PESO - Water Music

[ann sanfedele]

Flood victim I'm guessing   sad... but love the photo..

ann

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PESO - Water Music

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/51683506849

Shot last November, I never got around to processing  and posting this 
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