Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-12 Thread John Sessoms



On 6/12/2022 7:58 PM, Larry Colen wrote:




On Jun 12, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:



Paul


On Jun 12, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:




On Jun 12, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

The point of any game is enjoyment. In this case with others.
It’s true that the game on which Monopoly was based — The Landlord’s Game — was 
meant to teach economic lessons but that purpose was long ago abandoned on the 
trash heap of Victorian moral excessiveness.


Ayup, capitalism and monopolistic practices won out


Thank God! Without Monmopolies we wouldn’t have Facebook! 


Yup, we’d have Usenet.



I still have Usenet. Don't use it much any more (mainly to download 
Doctor Who episodes), but I've still got an active account.


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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-12 Thread John Sessoms

Started out as "The Landlord's Game"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Landlord's_Game

On 6/12/2022 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:


On 6/12/2022 4:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jun 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

.. snip... snip..

I played Monopoly  years ago and as  a kid thought it was fun but as 
I learned more about what a monopoly was in a real sense I never 
wanted to play it again.. You can probably figure out why :-)
You do realize that the point of the game was to show how bad 
Monopolies are?


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Um, that isn't what it says  on line... "Monopoly is a real-estate 
board game for two to eight players. The player's goal is*to remain 
financially solvent while forcing opponents into bankruptcy by buying 
and developing pieces of property*. Bankruptcy results in elimination 
from the game. The last player remaining on the board is the winner. "

ann



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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-12 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jun 12, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The point of any game is enjoyment. In this case with others. 
>>> It’s true that the game on which Monopoly was based — The Landlord’s Game — 
>>> was meant to teach economic lessons but that purpose was long ago abandoned 
>>> on the trash heap of Victorian moral excessiveness.
>> 
>> Ayup, capitalism and monopolistic practices won out
>> 
> Thank God! Without Monmopolies we wouldn’t have Facebook! 

Yup, we’d have Usenet.

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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-12 Thread Paul Stenquist


Paul

> On Jun 12, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> The point of any game is enjoyment. In this case with others. 
>> It’s true that the game on which Monopoly was based — The Landlord’s Game — 
>> was meant to teach economic lessons but that purpose was long ago abandoned 
>> on the trash heap of Victorian moral excessiveness.
> 
> Ayup, capitalism and monopolistic practices won out
> 
Thank God! Without Monmopolies we wouldn’t have Facebook! 

> Monopoly is derived from The Landlord's Game created by Lizzie Magie in the 
> United States in 1903 as a way to demonstrate that an economy that rewards 
> individuals is better than one where monopolies hold all the wealth,[1] and 
> to promote the economic theories of Henry George—in particular his ideas 
> about taxation.[3] The Landlord's Game had two sets of rules originally, one 
> with taxation and another on which the current rules are mainly based. When 
> Monopoly was first published by Parker Brothers in 1935, it did not include 
> the less capitalistic taxation rule, which resulted in a more aggressive 
> game. Parker Brothers was eventually absorbed into Hasbro in 1991. The game 
> is named after the economic concept of monopoly—the domination of a market by 
> a single entity.
> 
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
 On Jun 12, 2022, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/12/2022 4:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> On Jun 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> .. snip... snip..
> 
> I played Monopoly  years ago and as  a kid thought it was fun but as I 
> learned more about what a monopoly was in a real sense I never wanted to 
> play it again.. You can probably figure out why :-)
 You do realize that the point of the game was to show how bad Monopolies 
 are?
 
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 Um, that isn't what it says  on line... "Monopoly is a real-estate board 
 game for two to eight players. The player's goal is*to remain financially 
 solvent while forcing opponents into bankruptcy by buying and developing 
 pieces of property*. Bankruptcy results in elimination from the game. The 
 last player remaining on the board is the winner. "
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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-12 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jun 12, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> The point of any game is enjoyment. In this case with others. 
> It’s true that the game on which Monopoly was based — The Landlord’s Game — 
> was meant to teach economic lessons but that purpose was long ago abandoned 
> on the trash heap of Victorian moral excessiveness.

Ayup, capitalism and monopolistic practices won out

Monopoly is derived from The Landlord's Game created by Lizzie Magie in the 
United States in 1903 as a way to demonstrate that an economy that rewards 
individuals is better than one where monopolies hold all the wealth,[1] and to 
promote the economic theories of Henry George—in particular his ideas about 
taxation.[3] The Landlord's Game had two sets of rules originally, one with 
taxation and another on which the current rules are mainly based. When Monopoly 
was first published by Parker Brothers in 1935, it did not include the less 
capitalistic taxation rule, which resulted in a more aggressive game. Parker 
Brothers was eventually absorbed into Hasbro in 1991. The game is named after 
the economic concept of monopoly—the domination of a market by a single entity.

> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2022, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/12/2022 4:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 On Jun 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
 .. snip... snip..
 
 I played Monopoly  years ago and as  a kid thought it was fun but as I 
 learned more about what a monopoly was in a real sense I never wanted to 
 play it again.. You can probably figure out why :-)
>>> You do realize that the point of the game was to show how bad Monopolies 
>>> are?
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> l...@red4est.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Um, that isn't what it says  on line... "Monopoly is a real-estate board 
>>> game for two to eight players. The player's goal is*to remain financially 
>>> solvent while forcing opponents into bankruptcy by buying and developing 
>>> pieces of property*. Bankruptcy results in elimination from the game. The 
>>> last player remaining on the board is the winner. "
>> ann
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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
The point of any game is enjoyment. In this case with others. 
It’s true that the game on which Monopoly was based — The Landlord’s Game — was 
meant to teach economic lessons but that purpose was long ago abandoned on the 
trash heap of Victorian moral excessiveness.

Paul

> On Jun 12, 2022, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 6/12/2022 4:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> On Jun 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> .. snip... snip..
>>> 
>>> I played Monopoly  years ago and as  a kid thought it was fun but as I 
>>> learned more about what a monopoly was in a real sense I never wanted to 
>>> play it again.. You can probably figure out why :-)
>> You do realize that the point of the game was to show how bad Monopolies are?
>> 
>> --
>> Larry Colen
>> l...@red4est.com
>> 
>> 
>> Um, that isn't what it says  on line... "Monopoly is a real-estate board 
>> game for two to eight players. The player's goal is*to remain financially 
>> solvent while forcing opponents into bankruptcy by buying and developing 
>> pieces of property*. Bankruptcy results in elimination from the game. The 
>> last player remaining on the board is the winner. "
> ann
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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-12 Thread ann sanfedele



On 6/12/2022 4:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jun 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

.. snip... snip..

I played Monopoly  years ago and as  a kid thought it was fun but as I learned 
more about what a monopoly was in a real sense I never wanted to play it 
again.. You can probably figure out why :-)

You do realize that the point of the game was to show how bad Monopolies are?

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Um, that isn't what it says  on line... "Monopoly is a real-estate 
board game for two to eight players. The player's goal is*to remain 
financially solvent while forcing opponents into bankruptcy by buying 
and developing pieces of property*. Bankruptcy results in elimination 
from the game. The last player remaining on the board is the winner. "

ann

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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-12 Thread Larry Colen



> On Jun 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Larry to be clear -- the streets are in Atlantic City - the the 4 railroad 
> lines are real, too  .. Reading is a town in PA - you can go ther by rain 
> from PHilly.  The
> The B Rail , Short Line adn Pennsylvania Railroad are the other 4 you can 
> own.  the B stands for Baltimore and Ohio Railroad which was an important 
> one for the Union sodliers during the Civil war.
> 
> I played Monopoly  years ago and as  a kid thought it was fun but as I 
> learned more about what a monopoly was in a real sense I never wanted to play 
> it again..
> You can probably figure out why :-)

You do realize that the point of the game was to show how bad Monopolies are?


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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-12 Thread ann sanfedele
Larry to be clear -- the streets are in Atlantic City - the the 4 
railroad lines are real, too  .. Reading is a town in PA - you can go 
ther by rain from PHilly.  The
The B Rail , Short Line adn Pennsylvania Railroad are the other 4 you 
can own.  the B stands for Baltimore and Ohio Railroad which was an 
important one for the Union sodliers during the Civil war.


I played Monopoly  years ago and as  a kid thought it was fun but as I 
learned more about what a monopoly was in a real sense I never wanted to 
play it again..

You can probably figure out why :-)

ann

On 6/11/2022 9:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 6:39 PM Larry Colen  wrote:


It is weird to realize that the places on a Monopoly board exist in real
life.

The Monopoly Properties care named after places in Atlantic City, not

Philly.

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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nicely done, Rick!
Philly has a large number of fine areas for photography.

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On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 6:27 PM Rick Womer  wrote:

> The photo class I joined wandered Philly’s Reading Terminal Market last
> week. The Market has existed since the early 1890s, on street level below
> the Philadelphia terminal of the long-defunct Reading Railroad (now part of
> the Philadelphia Convention Center). The market is vast and busy, and I
> found shooting there challenging.
>
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2022/June-2022/Reading-Terminal-Mkt-6-6-22/
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> Comments always welcome!
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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 6:39 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
> It is weird to realize that the places on a Monopoly board exist in real
> life.
>
> The Monopoly Properties care named after places in Atlantic City, not
Philly.

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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-11 Thread ann sanfedele
LIked your snaps from there -- I found it a bit challenging too when I 
was in Philly visiting you.. but I loved the place! - You are saying it 
was busy but from the shots you took it looks pretty empty compared to 
when I was there on the summer of 2014..


HOpe you got some good eats as well as your photos.

ann

On 6/11/2022 6:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

The photo class I joined wandered Philly’s Reading Terminal Market last week. 
The Market has existed since the early 1890s, on street level below the 
Philadelphia terminal of the long-defunct Reading Railroad (now part of the 
Philadelphia Convention Center). The market is vast and busy, and I found 
shooting there challenging.

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2022/June-2022/Reading-Terminal-Mkt-6-6-22/

Comments always welcome!

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Re: PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-11 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jun 11, 2022, at 3:27 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> The photo class I joined wandered Philly’s Reading Terminal Market last week.

At first I wondered what a “Terminal Market” was. 
> The Market has existed since the early 1890s, on street level below the 
> Philadelphia terminal of the long-defunct Reading Railroad (now part of the 
> Philadelphia Convention Center). The market is vast and busy, and I found 
> shooting there challenging.
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2022/June-2022/Reading-Terminal-Mkt-6-6-22/
> 
> Comments always welcome!

The photos you posted were quite nice, I can see why so many people would want 
to go there.

It is weird to realize that the places on a Monopoly board exist in real life.  

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PESOs (4) - Reading Terminal Market

2022-06-11 Thread Rick Womer
The photo class I joined wandered Philly’s Reading Terminal Market last week. 
The Market has existed since the early 1890s, on street level below the 
Philadelphia terminal of the long-defunct Reading Railroad (now part of the 
Philadelphia Convention Center). The market is vast and busy, and I found 
shooting there challenging.

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2022/June-2022/Reading-Terminal-Mkt-6-6-22/

Comments always welcome!

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