Re: Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-22 Thread Jens
I guess you are right, PJ. But today very few people work with chemicals, although I know a few, that still do. I wonder if I can actually buy printing paper, toned in Sephia or blue? BTW: Sephia was originally Octopus ink. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated

RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-22 Thread Bob W
Monochrome = BW. If you toned or tint BW with a single color, it is still BW. This is not hard to understand... G Pink is the new black - Diana Vreeland Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Subject: Re: RE: Define Monochrome Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic societies have colour and monochrome as categories for exibitions and contests. I

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:59 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet if Scott ran a Monochrome PUG, you would get some sort of consensus. Consensus? On this list? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens Subject: Re: RE: Define Monochrome Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic societies have colour and monochrome as categories

Re: Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Jens
: - Original Message - From: Jens Subject: Re: RE: Define Monochrome Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic societies have colour and monochrome as categories for exibitions and contests

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Chemical/Silver sepia toned prints will have a mixture of black, (the darkest shades), and brown. Yet they are still considered BW err. monochrome photography. Just saying... Jens wrote: Perhaps. I have now come to the conclusion, that monochrome means One Colour. That is blue in blue,

RE: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Bob W
Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic societies have colour and monochrome as categories for exibitions and contests. I wanted to know if there is a gerally accepted definiton - and why.

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Bruce Walker
Bob W wrote: I bet if Scott ran a Monochrome PUG, you would get some sort of consensus. William Robb Wherever 3 PDMLers are gathered together, you will find at least 4 opinions. I agree and disagree with that. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: RE: Define Monochrome Wherever 3 PDMLers are gathered together, you will find at least 4 opinions. Hell, when Tom C and I got together last year there were two of us and seven opinions. We were Wiser for it. William Robb -- PDML

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Monochrome = BW. If you toned or tint BW with a single color, it is still BW. This is not hard to understand... G On Aug 20, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Jens wrote: Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Subject: OT: Define Monochrome Hello list In my camera club we had a discussion: What is monochrome? What's the official photographic definition? It seems the original definition is about painting with only one colour. Black. For instance - on

RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Bob W
It refers to different shades of the same colour. Yellow and blue, red and green are not the same colour. You could do shades of red, shades of blue, etc. which could include white. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Sent: 20

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Jens
Thanks Bob ans William. Your opinions surely differ. I think I'll go with Williams definition. Because WHITE IS a color. Black is not. I believe monochrome means painting with one colour - usually white, but it could be any other colour. The base on which I can paint is black, which is not a

RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Paul Ewins
In my camera club monochrome means one colour, a literal translation. There is also the standard art convention that black and white are not colours, they are shades or tones. This, unfortunately, led to the camera club deciding that monochrome allows black and white and one colour. Instead of

RE: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Bob W
Up to you, of course, but Bill's notion about a substrate is mistaken. According to the Munsell system, colour can be described using values of hue, saturation and tone. Hue is the 'colour' as we normally use the term - red, green, yellow, whatever. Saturation is the extent to which the hue

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: RE: Define Monochrome Up to you, of course, but Bill's notion about a substrate is mistaken. Without a substrate of some sort, you don't really have a picture, do you? I meant that the substrate is generally white, if that helps

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: RE: Define Monochrome Up to you, of course, but Bill's notion about a substrate is mistaken. Without a substrate of some sort, you don't really have a picture, do you? I meant that the substrate is generally

Re: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: RE: Define Monochrome Up to you, of course, but Bill's notion about a substrate is mistaken. Without a substrate of some sort, you don't really have a picture, do you? I meant

RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread John Coyle
For me, monochrome is any single colour, whether green, red, blue or anything in between. Variations in saturation and tone give a viewable image, as in a sepia print. Technically, black is no reflected light, therefore no 'chrome' at all, whereas white is all colours reflected equally,,

Re: RE: Define Monochrome

2008-08-20 Thread Jens
Hello list, Thanks very much for all your answers. This has become an intresting thread. I was just wondering. Many photographic societies have colour and monochrome as categories for exibitions and contests. I wanted to know if there is a gerally accepted definiton - and why. Apparently