Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-12-04 Thread Larry Colen



P. J. Alling wrote:

reply chain doesn't grow to thousands of lines long, of mostly
unneeded crap.


You can't talk about the PDML that way...

Well I guess you can, but you shouldn't.


Of course not, it's the post that is mostly unneeded crap.



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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-12-04 Thread P. J. Alling
reply chain doesn't grow to thousands of lines long, of mostly 
unneeded crap.


You can't talk about the PDML that way...

Well I guess you can, but you shouldn't.


On 11/22/2017 6:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:

Hum I have always "top posted" and as Ann as stated most places want you
to place your replies above the line.


A lot of that has to do with the way the internet was invaded starting 
in 1993 by barbarians who had no concept of polite behavior. It makes 
a lot more sense to have your reply be adjacent to the context, and 
trimming the unnecessary cruft so that not only can people tell what 
you are talking about, but also so that the reply chain doesn't grow 
to thousands of lines long, of mostly unneeded crap.






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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-23 Thread Jack Davis
Good'n, Ken.

J

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> "I thought the Russians were responsible."
> 
> The Russians (at least Putin's Russians) are irresponsible.
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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-23 Thread Ken Waller

I thought the Russians were responsible.

-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: meta-topic Posting style
>
>
>
>On 11/22/2017 3:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> Jack seemed to be confused by the way his email reader handles email 
>> attributions. This harkens back to a debate that's been going on for 
>> at least 30 years on posting style.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>>
>> Here is the standard explanation of why top posting is bad
>>
>> Why I hate top-posting
>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>> A: Top-posting.
>> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail and USENET?
>>
>> Until eternal September, interleaved replies, with added cruft 
>> deleted, were considered the proper and polite way to respond to email 
>> or usenet posts.
>>
>annsan replies... just to be clear...
>
>Wonder how much reading and sending email using a phone presents a 
>problem.. I have frequently seen emails sent to
>list where the person who quotes something from someone elses post gets 
>credited or blamed for the original person's
>post... most frequently here people misattributing photos to someone 
>else...  .
>
>another thing that happens is the link to a photo being discussed has 
>been stripped off by someone's server .
>
>Whenever I have correspondance with ebay customers, or other business 
>stuff, they insist on top posting.. "please respond above the line"  The 
>form in ebay messages is set up that way.
>
>I blame society
>
>ann

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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-23 Thread Jack Davis
Agree!

J

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> On Nov 23, 2017, at 4:45 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> When I respond on my phone, the cursor always appears in a top posting 
> position. I see no reason to futz woith it.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 4:10 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/22/2017 3:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jack seemed to be confused by the way his email reader handles email 
>>> attributions. This harkens back to a debate that's been going on for at 
>>> least 30 years on posting style.
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>>> 
>>> Here is the standard explanation of why top posting is bad
>>> 
>>> Why I hate top-posting
>>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>> A: Top-posting.
>>> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail and USENET?
>>> 
>>> Until eternal September, interleaved replies, with added cruft deleted, 
>>> were considered the proper and polite way to respond to email or usenet 
>>> posts.
>> annsan replies... just to be clear...
>> 
>> Wonder how much reading and sending email using a phone presents a problem.. 
>> I have frequently seen emails sent to
>> list where the person who quotes something from someone elses post gets 
>> credited or blamed for the original person's
>> post... most frequently here people misattributing photos to someone else... 
>>  .
>> 
>> another thing that happens is the link to a photo being discussed has been 
>> stripped off by someone's server .
>> 
>> Whenever I have correspondance with ebay customers, or other business stuff, 
>> they insist on top posting.. "please respond above the line"  The form in 
>> ebay messages is set up that way.
>> 
>> I blame society
>> 
>> ann
>> 
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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
When I respond on my phone, the cursor always appears in a top posting 
position. I see no reason to futz woith it.

Paul

> On Nov 22, 2017, at 4:10 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/22/2017 3:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>> Jack seemed to be confused by the way his email reader handles email 
>> attributions. This harkens back to a debate that's been going on for at 
>> least 30 years on posting style.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>> 
>> Here is the standard explanation of why top posting is bad
>> 
>> Why I hate top-posting
>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>> A: Top-posting.
>> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail and USENET?
>> 
>> Until eternal September, interleaved replies, with added cruft deleted, were 
>> considered the proper and polite way to respond to email or usenet posts.
>> 
> annsan replies... just to be clear...
> 
> Wonder how much reading and sending email using a phone presents a problem.. 
> I have frequently seen emails sent to
> list where the person who quotes something from someone elses post gets 
> credited or blamed for the original person's
> post... most frequently here people misattributing photos to someone else...  
> .
> 
> another thing that happens is the link to a photo being discussed has been 
> stripped off by someone's server .
> 
> Whenever I have correspondance with ebay customers, or other business stuff, 
> they insist on top posting.. "please respond above the line"  The form in 
> ebay messages is set up that way.
> 
> I blame society
> 
> ann
> 
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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-22 Thread Matthew Hunt
When 900 years you reach...

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Completely
> agree
> I

post so well you shall not,.

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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-22 Thread ann sanfedele



On 11/22/2017 9:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

snip...

Subash Jeyan wrote:


my reply style (top, interspersed, or bottom) depends mostly on the
forum. but i do cut out a lot of unnecessary fluff...

Larry replied:
Exactly.  There are actually times when top, or bottom, posting is the 
clearest.


annsan then says...

 I agree  :-)

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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Completely
agree
I


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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-22 Thread Larry Colen



Subash Jeyan wrote:

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:56:17 -0800
Larry Colen  wrote:


PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:

Hum I have always "top posted" and as Ann as stated most places
want you to place your replies above the line.

A lot of that has to do with the way the internet was invaded
starting in 1993 by barbarians who had no concept of polite behavior.
It makes a lot more sense to have your reply be adjacent to the
context, and trimming the unnecessary cruft so that not only can
people tell what you are talking about, but also so that the reply
chain doesn't grow to thousands of lines long, of mostly unneeded
crap.


my reply style (top, interspersed, or bottom) depends mostly on the
forum. but i do cut out a lot of unnecessary fluff...


Exactly.  There are actually times when top, or bottom, posting is the 
clearest.



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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-22 Thread Subash Jeyan
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:56:17 -0800
Larry Colen  wrote:

> PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:
> > Hum I have always "top posted" and as Ann as stated most places
> > want you to place your replies above the line.  
> 
> A lot of that has to do with the way the internet was invaded
> starting in 1993 by barbarians who had no concept of polite behavior.
> It makes a lot more sense to have your reply be adjacent to the
> context, and trimming the unnecessary cruft so that not only can
> people tell what you are talking about, but also so that the reply
> chain doesn't grow to thousands of lines long, of mostly unneeded
> crap.

my reply style (top, interspersed, or bottom) depends mostly on the
forum. but i do cut out a lot of unnecessary fluff...

~subash

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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-22 Thread Larry Colen



PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:

Hum I have always "top posted" and as Ann as stated most places want you
to place your replies above the line.


A lot of that has to do with the way the internet was invaded starting 
in 1993 by barbarians who had no concept of polite behavior. It makes a 
lot more sense to have your reply be adjacent to the context, and 
trimming the unnecessary cruft so that not only can people tell what you 
are talking about, but also so that the reply chain doesn't grow to 
thousands of lines long, of mostly unneeded crap.




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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-22 Thread PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com
Hum I have always "top posted" and as Ann as stated most places want you 
to place your replies above the line.


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Transportation - Pets - Nature - Scenic - Cityscape. That you can 
purchase as framed or unframed prints, with loads of variety in home 
decor./

On 11/22/2017 3:10 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:



On 11/22/2017 3:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Jack seemed to be confused by the way his email reader handles email 
attributions. This harkens back to a debate that's been going on for 
at least 30 years on posting style.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

Here is the standard explanation of why top posting is bad

Why I hate top-posting
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail and USENET?

Until eternal September, interleaved replies, with added cruft 
deleted, were considered the proper and polite way to respond to 
email or usenet posts.



annsan replies... just to be clear...

Wonder how much reading and sending email using a phone presents a 
problem.. I have frequently seen emails sent to
list where the person who quotes something from someone elses post 
gets credited or blamed for the original person's
post... most frequently here people misattributing photos to someone 
else...  .


another thing that happens is the link to a photo being discussed has 
been stripped off by someone's server .


Whenever I have correspondance with ebay customers, or other business 
stuff, they insist on top posting.. "please respond above the line"  
The form in ebay messages is set up that way.


I blame society

ann



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Re: meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-22 Thread ann sanfedele



On 11/22/2017 3:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Jack seemed to be confused by the way his email reader handles email 
attributions. This harkens back to a debate that's been going on for 
at least 30 years on posting style.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

Here is the standard explanation of why top posting is bad

Why I hate top-posting
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail and USENET?

Until eternal September, interleaved replies, with added cruft 
deleted, were considered the proper and polite way to respond to email 
or usenet posts.



annsan replies... just to be clear...

Wonder how much reading and sending email using a phone presents a 
problem.. I have frequently seen emails sent to
list where the person who quotes something from someone elses post gets 
credited or blamed for the original person's
post... most frequently here people misattributing photos to someone 
else...  .


another thing that happens is the link to a photo being discussed has 
been stripped off by someone's server .


Whenever I have correspondance with ebay customers, or other business 
stuff, they insist on top posting.. "please respond above the line"  The 
form in ebay messages is set up that way.


I blame society

ann

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meta-topic Posting style

2017-11-22 Thread Larry Colen


Jack seemed to be confused by the way his email reader handles email 
attributions. This harkens back to a debate that's been going on for at 
least 30 years on posting style.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

Here is the standard explanation of why top posting is bad

Why I hate top-posting
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail and USENET?

Until eternal September, interleaved replies, with added cruft deleted, 
were considered the proper and polite way to respond to email or usenet 
posts.


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