Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-23 Thread Bill
On 2/23/2017 7:53 PM, steve harley wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2017, at 16:37, Bill wrote: On 2/23/2017 2:10 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2017-02-22 17:04 , Bill wrote: I really don't want to use an A15/3.5 as a short tele. i really like how short tele macros work on µ4/3 — Pentax-M

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-23 Thread steve harley
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017, at 16:37, Bill wrote: > On 2/23/2017 2:10 PM, steve harley wrote: > > On 2017-02-22 17:04 , Bill wrote: > > > >> I really don't want to use an A15/3.5 as a short tele. > > > > i really like how short tele macros work on µ4/3 — Pentax-M > > 100/4 macro > > handles really

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-23 Thread Bill
On 2/23/2017 2:10 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2017-02-22 17:04 , Bill wrote: I really don't want to use an A15/3.5 as a short tele. i really like how short tele macros work on µ4/3 — Pentax-M 100/4 macro handles really well with focus highlighting, increased effective focal length and

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-23 Thread Stanley Halpin
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > John wrote: > >> Or else Google translate just has a dirty mind. >> >> What I need explained is why new lenses are so much longer than the old >> ones of the same focal length? > > Every lens design is the

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-23 Thread steve harley
On 2017-02-22 17:04 , Bill wrote: > I really don't want to use an A15/3.5 as a short tele. i really like how short tele macros work on µ4/3 — Pentax-M 100/4 macro handles really well with focus highlighting, increased effective focal length and depth of field just ordered a K-mount Panagor

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-23 Thread Larry Colen
Mark Roberts wrote: Bill wrote: I suspect it's not much more problem to teach Lightroom to apply a correction on import, but I haven't bothered to try yet. I find myself *adding* vignetting in post much more often than correcting for it. Interesting, I've come to hate vignetting the way

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Bill
On 2/22/2017 4:56 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 22/2/17, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: My old A15/3.5 has a stop or more of light fall off in the corners. It was no big deal to write an action that can be applied to those images. I suspect it's not much more problem to teach Lightroom to

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 February 2017 at 08:19, Mark Roberts wrote: > I find myself *adding* vignetting in post much more often than > correcting for it. Same here, it's a great creative tool, second only to DOF control IMO. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel:

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 22/2/17, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: >My old A15/3.5 has a stop or more of light fall off in the corners. It >was no big deal to write an action that can be applied to those images. >I suspect it's not much more problem to teach Lightroom to apply a >correction on import, but I

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote: >On 2/22/2017 11:36 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> John wrote: >> >>> Or else Google translate just has a dirty mind. >>> >>> What I need explained is why new lenses are so much longer than the old >>> ones of the same focal length? >> >> Every lens design is the result of many

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Bill
On 2/22/2017 11:36 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: Or else Google translate just has a dirty mind. What I need explained is why new lenses are so much longer than the old ones of the same focal length? Every lens design is the result of many compromises: Small vs. large, expensive vs.

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
John wrote: >Or else Google translate just has a dirty mind. > >What I need explained is why new lenses are so much longer than the old >ones of the same focal length? Every lens design is the result of many compromises: Small vs. large, expensive vs. cheap, tack-sharp vs. just-sharp-enough. As

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:06:18AM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: > Google translate offered this puzzler: > > "- K mount mounted, covering image circle of 35 milf size image sensor" That might explain why it's about twice as long as my 50mm/f1.4 ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread John
So you're saying the newly announced 50mm f/1.4 will NOT be significantly larger than the FA 50mm f/1.4 lens? On 2/22/2017 11:13 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Pentax-M 50mm f1.7: 63mm x 31mm, 185 gr, manual focus Pentax DA 50mm f1.8: 63mm x 35.5mm, 122 gr, auto focus Clearly Pentax engineering has

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Oh, goodie, they're following in the footsteps of everybody else making the design bigger heaver and more complex. On 2/22/2017 10:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Google translate offered this puzzler: "- K mount mounted, covering image circle of 35 milf size image sensor" Dare I suggest they

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Middle-aged women with whom you would like to reproduce, no less. > On Feb 22, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Google translate offered this puzzler: > > "- K mount mounted, covering image circle of 35 milf size image sensor" > > Dare I suggest they are

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Bill
On 2/22/2017 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Google translate offered this puzzler: "- K mount mounted, covering image circle of 35 milf size image sensor" Dare I suggest they are targeting shooters of middle aged women? That's the Japanese and their weird fetishes for you. -- PDML

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Darren Addy
Pentax-M 50mm f1.7: 63mm x 31mm, 185 gr, manual focus Pentax DA 50mm f1.8: 63mm x 35.5mm, 122 gr, auto focus Clearly Pentax engineering has gone to hell in a hand basket. On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Gonz wrote: > Yeah really. Compactness seemed to have peaked with

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Gonz
Yeah really. Compactness seemed to have peaked with the M-series, then it went downhill from there. On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:15 AM, John wrote: > Or else Google translate just has a dirty mind. > > What I need explained is why new lenses are so much longer than the old

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Darren Addy
>What I need explained is why new lenses are so much longer than the old >ones of the same focal length? This is perhaps one of the greatest sentences I have read on the PDML. Yogi Berra would be proud. :) On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Gonz wrote: > not just middle

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Gonz
not just middle aged women, HOT middle aged women, like Stacey's Mom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLfasMPOU4 On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Google translate offered this puzzler: > > "- K mount mounted, covering image circle of 35 milf size

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread John
Or else Google translate just has a dirty mind. What I need explained is why new lenses are so much longer than the old ones of the same focal length? On 2/22/2017 10:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Google translate offered this puzzler: "- K mount mounted, covering image circle of 35 milf size

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 22 February 2017 at 15:06, Bruce Walker wrote: > Google translate offered this puzzler: > > "- K mount mounted, covering image circle of 35 milf size image sensor" K mount, covering an image circle of 35mm full size image sensor -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: New standard lens on the horizon

2017-02-22 Thread Bruce Walker
Google translate offered this puzzler: "- K mount mounted, covering image circle of 35 milf size image sensor" Dare I suggest they are targeting shooters of middle aged women? On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Bill wrote: >