Re: OT: Film Oddity

2016-07-12 Thread John 

I remembered while cleaning out my inbox.

I bought two disposables for a white-water rafting trip on a Saturday.
Only had time to shoot with one.

The train trip was the next day, Sunday. I used the other disposable for
that trip so I could take them both in to be processed on Monday morning.


On 7/12/2016 2:06 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

"Now all I have to figure out is why the hell was I using a disposable
camera and not my regular cameras"?

Simple John, you may be "Mothering" your regular camera - please note
my stress on "may be".
This syndrome afflicts many Photographers who fear scratching /
damaging their gear if they take it out for regular photo shoots.

So they go online for all their "photo shoots". They take out their
camera now and then. Polish it with a soft cloth, fire the shutter,
look at it and admire it, then put it away gently again.

In the mean time for "real" photo shoots they use their P  or the
disposable camera.

Well John, I was one of them too. Till my daughter started teasing me
& I bought the weather resistant K-5 IIs.

Regards.
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Re: OT: Film Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread John 

Cleaning out my inbox ... I finally figured out why I was using the
disposable camera.

It was left over from the previous day's white-water rafting trip.
Bought 2 but only had time to use 1. So I used the second one for the
next day's train trip.

On 6/23/2016 11:07 AM, John wrote:

I just noticed that the way those disposable plastic cameras work is
they have the film pulled all the way out of the cassette and as you
take pictures, the film is rewound into the cassette. All of the frame
numbers come out back-to-front (i.e. #1 is the last photo & #27 is the
first).




Now all I have to figure out is why the hell was I using a disposable
camera and not my regular cameras?




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Re: OT: Film Oddity

2016-06-24 Thread P.J. Alling 
So my opinion of the camera when released has been vindicated by someone 
else' experience.  It's always nice to have your gut reaction, with no 
data at all, turn out to be true.  It's too bad, it looked like it 
should be a nice camera.


It had the same autofocus module as the *ist-D, better than the three AF 
points in the MZ-3 and ZX-5n.  I bought an MZ-3 used which lasted about 
a year before the shutter went.  I really expected it to last longer 
than that, but I have no idea what it went through before I got it.


On 6/24/2016 8:48 AM, Mark C wrote:
The *ist just advances the film one frame at at time and rewinds at 
the end of the roll.


I bought 3 of them in the past few years. With the battery grip it was 
a nice sized camera, compact but not too small,. The AF was pretty 
good (though focus points were clustered way too tightly).


It is really a fun camera but the build quality is terrible. None of 
my three lasted more than a few months - shutter buttons stop working, 
control wheels jam, the plastic covers on switches just crumble away 
after a few weeks of light use. And I just kept it around the house 
for casual shooting.


Mark


On 6/23/2016 4:26 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
I think the film *ist did that too, but I never wanted to own one, so 
I don't actually know.


On 6/23/2016 3:11 PM, Mark C wrote:
I don't think that was too uncommon. Some P cameras would pull all 
of the film out of the casset and then respoll it as it was shot. On 
the plus side - if the camera was accidently opened the exposed 
frames would not be damaged.


On 6/23/2016 12:45 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

My little Yashica did the same thing. Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:07 AM, John  wrote:

I just noticed that the way those disposable plastic cameras work is
they have the film pulled all the way out of the cassette and as you
take pictures, the film is rewound into the cassette. All of the 
frame
numbers come out back-to-front (i.e. #1 is the last photo & #27 is 
the

first).

It makes a difference when you scan the film, because you're going to
have to re-number them in post if you want the images in the correct
order ... which I do, because otherwise it makes my head hurt.

I noticed it because the second photo on the film is a train taken 
FROM

the train and there was a river on the wrong side.

But it's not the wrong side, because it's not the second photo, 
it's the
next to last photo and it was taken while the train was returning. 
It's

the next to last photo on the roll.

Now all I have to figure out is why the hell was I using a disposable
camera and not my regular cameras?


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Re: OT: Film Oddity

2016-06-24 Thread Mark C 
The *ist just advances the film one frame at at time and rewinds at the 
end of the roll.


I bought 3 of them in the past few years. With the battery grip it was a 
nice sized camera, compact but not too small,. The AF was pretty good 
(though focus points were clustered way too tightly).


It is really a fun camera but the build quality is terrible. None of my 
three lasted more than a few months - shutter buttons stop working, 
control wheels jam, the plastic covers on switches just crumble away 
after a few weeks of light use. And I just kept it around the house for 
casual shooting.


Mark


On 6/23/2016 4:26 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
I think the film *ist did that too, but I never wanted to own one, so 
I don't actually know.


On 6/23/2016 3:11 PM, Mark C wrote:
I don't think that was too uncommon. Some P cameras would pull all 
of the film out of the casset and then respoll it as it was shot. On 
the plus side - if the camera was accidently opened the exposed 
frames would not be damaged.


On 6/23/2016 12:45 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

My little Yashica did the same thing. Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:07 AM, John  wrote:

I just noticed that the way those disposable plastic cameras work is
they have the film pulled all the way out of the cassette and as you
take pictures, the film is rewound into the cassette. All of the frame
numbers come out back-to-front (i.e. #1 is the last photo & #27 is the
first).

It makes a difference when you scan the film, because you're going to
have to re-number them in post if you want the images in the correct
order ... which I do, because otherwise it makes my head hurt.

I noticed it because the second photo on the film is a train taken 
FROM

the train and there was a river on the wrong side.

But it's not the wrong side, because it's not the second photo, 
it's the
next to last photo and it was taken while the train was returning. 
It's

the next to last photo on the roll.

Now all I have to figure out is why the hell was I using a disposable
camera and not my regular cameras?


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Re: OT: Film Oddity

2016-06-23 Thread P.J. Alling 
I think the film *ist did that too, but I never wanted to own one, so I 
don't actually know.


On 6/23/2016 3:11 PM, Mark C wrote:
I don't think that was too uncommon. Some P cameras would pull all 
of the film out of the casset and then respoll it as it was shot. On 
the plus side - if the camera was accidently opened the exposed frames 
would not be damaged.


On 6/23/2016 12:45 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

My little Yashica did the same thing. Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:07 AM, John  wrote:

I just noticed that the way those disposable plastic cameras work is
they have the film pulled all the way out of the cassette and as you
take pictures, the film is rewound into the cassette. All of the frame
numbers come out back-to-front (i.e. #1 is the last photo & #27 is the
first).

It makes a difference when you scan the film, because you're going to
have to re-number them in post if you want the images in the correct
order ... which I do, because otherwise it makes my head hurt.

I noticed it because the second photo on the film is a train taken FROM
the train and there was a river on the wrong side.

But it's not the wrong side, because it's not the second photo, it's 
the

next to last photo and it was taken while the train was returning. It's
the next to last photo on the roll.

Now all I have to figure out is why the hell was I using a disposable
camera and not my regular cameras?


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Re: OT: Film Oddity

2016-06-23 Thread Mark C 
I don't think that was too uncommon. Some P cameras would pull all of 
the film out of the casset and then respoll it as it was shot. On the 
plus side - if the camera was accidently opened the exposed frames would 
not be damaged.


On 6/23/2016 12:45 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

My little Yashica did the same thing.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:07 AM, John  wrote:

I just noticed that the way those disposable plastic cameras work is
they have the film pulled all the way out of the cassette and as you
take pictures, the film is rewound into the cassette. All of the frame
numbers come out back-to-front (i.e. #1 is the last photo & #27 is the
first).

It makes a difference when you scan the film, because you're going to
have to re-number them in post if you want the images in the correct
order ... which I do, because otherwise it makes my head hurt.

I noticed it because the second photo on the film is a train taken FROM
the train and there was a river on the wrong side.

But it's not the wrong side, because it's not the second photo, it's the
next to last photo and it was taken while the train was returning. It's
the next to last photo on the roll.

Now all I have to figure out is why the hell was I using a disposable
camera and not my regular cameras?


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Re: OT: Film Oddity

2016-06-23 Thread Bob Sullivan 
My little Yashica did the same thing.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:07 AM, John  wrote:
> I just noticed that the way those disposable plastic cameras work is
> they have the film pulled all the way out of the cassette and as you
> take pictures, the film is rewound into the cassette. All of the frame
> numbers come out back-to-front (i.e. #1 is the last photo & #27 is the
> first).
>
> It makes a difference when you scan the film, because you're going to
> have to re-number them in post if you want the images in the correct
> order ... which I do, because otherwise it makes my head hurt.
>
> I noticed it because the second photo on the film is a train taken FROM
> the train and there was a river on the wrong side.
>
> But it's not the wrong side, because it's not the second photo, it's the
> next to last photo and it was taken while the train was returning. It's
> the next to last photo on the roll.
>
> Now all I have to figure out is why the hell was I using a disposable
> camera and not my regular cameras?
>
>
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