Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Doug Brewer]

Good to know. Thanks.

On 9/28/16 9:12 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Doug, Neewer stuff is basic and cheap, but not all bad in my experience.

I have a couple of their fully manual (no bells and whistles) TT560
flashes, and they are well built and solid performers. I used them
heavily for a year or two and occasionally after that. They just keep
on working, for 4 years now. No complaints. I'd buy more if I needed
flashes.

Just FYI.


On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

Yeah, Gonz, I saw that one too, but overall, the reviews of the Neewer stuff
I read make me want to avoid them.

On 9/27/16 1:11 PM, Gonz wrote:


I saw this on ebay.  Cheap enough for a try...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NW-14EXM-UNIVERSAL-LED-MACRO-RING-FLASH-LIGHT-/311480494662?hash=item4885af2a46:g:~uwAAOSwI-BWPZox






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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Bruce Walker]

Doug, Neewer stuff is basic and cheap, but not all bad in my experience.

I have a couple of their fully manual (no bells and whistles) TT560
flashes, and they are well built and solid performers. I used them
heavily for a year or two and occasionally after that. They just keep
on working, for 4 years now. No complaints. I'd buy more if I needed
flashes.

Just FYI.


On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Yeah, Gonz, I saw that one too, but overall, the reviews of the Neewer stuff
> I read make me want to avoid them.
>
> On 9/27/16 1:11 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> I saw this on ebay.  Cheap enough for a try...
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NW-14EXM-UNIVERSAL-LED-MACRO-RING-FLASH-LIGHT-/311480494662?hash=item4885af2a46:g:~uwAAOSwI-BWPZox



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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Doug Brewer]

Larry, yep. The times I've shot macro, I've seen the same. I'll skip the 
adapters.


On 9/27/16 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Doug Brewer wrote:

I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait
work on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for
recommendations for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.

If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have
one and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let me
research.


I picked up one of those adapters that goes on a regular speedlight.  It
doesn't really work all that well, even for macro.  Macro requires much
less light, in absolute terms.  For macro, the inverse square law is
your friend.



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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Doug Brewer]

Yeah, Peter Hurley rocks. For some reason, though, the video won't show 
up for me. Maybe I'll try a different browser. Thanks for the link.


On 9/27/16 2:41 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

The master of headshots, Peter Hurley, creates a "ring" from lights.
Here's a how-to that's worth trying.

https://www.borrowlenses.com/blog/2012/05/tip-of-the-week-replicate-photographer-peter-hurleys-signature-look-with-strobes/




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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Doug Brewer]

holy cow. you're right.

On 9/27/16 1:27 PM, John wrote:

YouTube has a BUNCH of build your own ring-light tutorials.



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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Doug Brewer]

Yeah, Gonz, I saw that one too, but overall, the reviews of the Neewer 
stuff I read make me want to avoid them.


On 9/27/16 1:11 PM, Gonz wrote:

I saw this on ebay.  Cheap enough for a try...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NW-14EXM-UNIVERSAL-LED-MACRO-RING-FLASH-LIGHT-/311480494662?hash=item4885af2a46:g:~uwAAOSwI-BWPZox



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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Doug Brewer]

Hey John,

Thank you. I looked up the ABR800 and it looks like a great unit, like I 
suspect most Alien Bees would be.


On 9/27/16 1:14 PM, John wrote:

I have an Alien Bees ABR800 that will accept any cameras mounting a lens
up to 4" diameter. Trigger voltage is less than 6 volts.

Mine has an optional "Moon Unit" ring umbrella kit w/cover that spreads
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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[jtainter]

Check eBay. Last spring from eBay I got an AF 160 FC from a seller in Japan, 
priced much lower than the price at B There was no problem with the 
transaction and it arrived quickly. The manual included English.

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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Bruce Walker]

Last year, I set about to replicate Mapplethorpe's portrait style and
came up with two parallel striplights with a unique catchlight. Here's
what that looks like:

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GBUyNRdnzMcU/I2G2lo2dcFMg


On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> The master of headshots, Peter Hurley, creates a "ring" from lights.
> Here's a how-to that's worth trying.
>
> https://www.borrowlenses.com/blog/2012/05/tip-of-the-week-replicate-photographer-peter-hurleys-signature-look-with-strobes/
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Doug Brewer  
> wrote:
>> Hey Bruce, thanks.
>>
>> The more I look into it, the more I think you're right that homemade is the
>> way to go. I have light stands all over the place, so putting together a
>> frame/circle would be my next step.
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/16 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Doug, I have an AF160FC that is collecting dust. Practically new as it
>>> never saw much use. But if you feel the Sigma is pricey then you'd not
>>> want my Pentax. :)
>>>
>>> Home made ring lights are good for portraiture. Larger ring diameters
>>> are usually more flattering than tiny macro rings. Another look that's
>>> excellent is to arrange a few strip lights in a triangle or square
>>> shape then shoot through that. Or you could try a few of those new LED
>>> replacements for fluorescent tubes that you can get at Walmart now.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer 
>>> wrote:

 I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait
 work
 on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for
 recommendations
 for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.

 If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have one
 and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let me
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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Bruce Walker]

The master of headshots, Peter Hurley, creates a "ring" from lights.
Here's a how-to that's worth trying.

https://www.borrowlenses.com/blog/2012/05/tip-of-the-week-replicate-photographer-peter-hurleys-signature-look-with-strobes/


On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Hey Bruce, thanks.
>
> The more I look into it, the more I think you're right that homemade is the
> way to go. I have light stands all over the place, so putting together a
> frame/circle would be my next step.
>
>
> On 9/27/16 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Doug, I have an AF160FC that is collecting dust. Practically new as it
>> never saw much use. But if you feel the Sigma is pricey then you'd not
>> want my Pentax. :)
>>
>> Home made ring lights are good for portraiture. Larger ring diameters
>> are usually more flattering than tiny macro rings. Another look that's
>> excellent is to arrange a few strip lights in a triangle or square
>> shape then shoot through that. Or you could try a few of those new LED
>> replacements for fluorescent tubes that you can get at Walmart now.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait
>>> work
>>> on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for
>>> recommendations
>>> for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.
>>>
>>> If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have one
>>> and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let me
>>> research.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[John]

YouTube has a BUNCH of build your own ring-light tutorials.

On 9/27/2016 12:40 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

Hey Bruce, thanks.

The more I look into it, the more I think you're right that homemade is
the way to go. I have light stands all over the place, so putting
together a frame/circle would be my next step.

On 9/27/16 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Doug, I have an AF160FC that is collecting dust. Practically new as it
never saw much use. But if you feel the Sigma is pricey then you'd not
want my Pentax. :)

Home made ring lights are good for portraiture. Larger ring diameters
are usually more flattering than tiny macro rings. Another look that's
excellent is to arrange a few strip lights in a triangle or square
shape then shoot through that. Or you could try a few of those new LED
replacements for fluorescent tubes that you can get at Walmart now.


On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer
 wrote:

I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for
portrait work
on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for
recommendations
for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.

If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have
one
and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let me
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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Larry Colen]

Doug Brewer wrote:

I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait
work on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for
recommendations for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.

If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have
one and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let me
research.


I picked up one of those adapters that goes on a regular speedlight.  It 
doesn't really work all that well, even for macro.  Macro requires much 
less light, in absolute terms.  For macro, the inverse square law is 
your friend.




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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Gonz]

Even cheaper on Amazon.  Reviews are mixed...

https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Marco-Light-Adapter-Tamron/dp/B0031AQ302/ref=sr_1_13?s=photo=UTF8=1474996340=1-13=neewer+ring+light

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> I saw this on ebay.  Cheap enough for a try...
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NW-14EXM-UNIVERSAL-LED-MACRO-RING-FLASH-LIGHT-/311480494662?hash=item4885af2a46:g:~uwAAOSwI-BWPZox
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Doug Brewer  
> wrote:
>> Hey Bruce, thanks.
>>
>> The more I look into it, the more I think you're right that homemade is the
>> way to go. I have light stands all over the place, so putting together a
>> frame/circle would be my next step.
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/16 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Doug, I have an AF160FC that is collecting dust. Practically new as it
>>> never saw much use. But if you feel the Sigma is pricey then you'd not
>>> want my Pentax. :)
>>>
>>> Home made ring lights are good for portraiture. Larger ring diameters
>>> are usually more flattering than tiny macro rings. Another look that's
>>> excellent is to arrange a few strip lights in a triangle or square
>>> shape then shoot through that. Or you could try a few of those new LED
>>> replacements for fluorescent tubes that you can get at Walmart now.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer 
>>> wrote:

 I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait
 work
 on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for
 recommendations
 for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.

 If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have one
 and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let me
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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[John]

I have an Alien Bees ABR800 that will accept any cameras mounting a lens
up to 4" diameter. Trigger voltage is less than 6 volts.

Mine has an optional "Moon Unit" ring umbrella kit w/cover that spreads
the light nicely while still allowing use of the center shoot-thru hole.

On 9/26/2016 5:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Aside from the Pentax AF160FC which I think is discontinued, the only
ring flash that I know of that is compatible with Pentax Digital is a
Sigma, the EM 140 I think.  If you're willing to put up with the power
limitations of LED ring lights then all of them are compatible, as they
don't require any special connections for P-TTL to work.

On 9/26/2016 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait
work on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for
recommendations for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.

If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have
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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Gonz]

I saw this on ebay.  Cheap enough for a try...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NW-14EXM-UNIVERSAL-LED-MACRO-RING-FLASH-LIGHT-/311480494662?hash=item4885af2a46:g:~uwAAOSwI-BWPZox

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Hey Bruce, thanks.
>
> The more I look into it, the more I think you're right that homemade is the
> way to go. I have light stands all over the place, so putting together a
> frame/circle would be my next step.
>
>
> On 9/27/16 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Doug, I have an AF160FC that is collecting dust. Practically new as it
>> never saw much use. But if you feel the Sigma is pricey then you'd not
>> want my Pentax. :)
>>
>> Home made ring lights are good for portraiture. Larger ring diameters
>> are usually more flattering than tiny macro rings. Another look that's
>> excellent is to arrange a few strip lights in a triangle or square
>> shape then shoot through that. Or you could try a few of those new LED
>> replacements for fluorescent tubes that you can get at Walmart now.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait
>>> work
>>> on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for
>>> recommendations
>>> for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.
>>>
>>> If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have one
>>> and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let me
>>> research.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Doug Brewer]

Hey Bruce, thanks.

The more I look into it, the more I think you're right that homemade is 
the way to go. I have light stands all over the place, so putting 
together a frame/circle would be my next step.


On 9/27/16 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Doug, I have an AF160FC that is collecting dust. Practically new as it
never saw much use. But if you feel the Sigma is pricey then you'd not
want my Pentax. :)

Home made ring lights are good for portraiture. Larger ring diameters
are usually more flattering than tiny macro rings. Another look that's
excellent is to arrange a few strip lights in a triangle or square
shape then shoot through that. Or you could try a few of those new LED
replacements for fluorescent tubes that you can get at Walmart now.


On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait work
on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for recommendations
for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.

If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have one
and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let me
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Re: OT: Ring lights?

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Doug, I have an AF160FC that is collecting dust. Practically new as it
never saw much use. But if you feel the Sigma is pricey then you'd not
want my Pentax. :)

Home made ring lights are good for portraiture. Larger ring diameters
are usually more flattering than tiny macro rings. Another look that's
excellent is to arrange a few strip lights in a triangle or square
shape then shoot through that. Or you could try a few of those new LED
replacements for fluorescent tubes that you can get at Walmart now.


On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait work
> on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for recommendations
> for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.
>
> If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have one
> and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let me
> research.
>
> Thanks much.
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Re: OT: Ring lights?

[Doug Brewer]

Thanks, P.J. There are some Sigmas available, but they are a little 
pricy right now. I'll look around for other options.


I appreciate it.

Doug

On 9/26/16 5:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Aside from the Pentax AF160FC which I think is discontinued, the only
ring flash that I know of that is compatible with Pentax Digital is a
Sigma, the EM 140 I think.  If you're willing to put up with the power
limitations of LED ring lights then all of them are compatible, as they
don't require any special connections for P-TTL to work.

On 9/26/2016 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait
work on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for
recommendations for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.

If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have
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Aside from the Pentax AF160FC which I think is discontinued, the only 
ring flash that I know of that is compatible with Pentax Digital is a 
Sigma, the EM 140 I think.  If you're willing to put up with the power 
limitations of LED ring lights then all of them are compatible, as they 
don't require any special connections for P-TTL to work.


On 9/26/2016 4:38 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
I am interested, for unknown reasons, to use a ring light for portrait 
work on certain subjects, so I'm appealing to the group mind for 
recommendations for ring lights that work with Pentax cameras.


If you have one an want to get rid of it, talk to me. Or, if you have 
one and don't want to get rid of it, tell me what brand it is and let 
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