Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-29 Thread Gonz
I suspect that the same body has already been through some jarring moments being shipped to its final destination, whether by container ship or by plane. Loading/unloading boxes, loading/unloading containers, the trip itself, the distribution network which ships the cameras to its retailer and

Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-29 Thread Igor PDML-StR
For the overall number, I just realized, I was counting only the airports designated by FAA as "Commercial service - primary" ( over 10 000 passenger boardings per year). You probably included "Commercial service - nonprimary" (between 2.5K and 10K boardings per year). On one hand, I

Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-29 Thread mike wilson
I would think that Pentax DSLRs, with in-body shake reduction, are at least as fragile as lenses. I'd certainly feel happier stowing an M or earlier lens in my carryon than a modern body - and not just because of the value aspect. > On 28 March 2017 at 16:50 Gonz wrote: >

Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 02:39:21PM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > I don't know how many US airports Delta and Delta Connections fly to > (out of almost 400 commercial airports), but 84 is probably not all of them. I count 252 Your 400 figure is a bit low, too - my count shows 662 airports in

Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Stan, I don't know about Delta, I haven't flown on Delta for ages. That's why I didn't write "all" airlines. My most recent personal experience was with Turkish Airlines and Czech Airlines last summer (on international flights), and with Frontier (domestic) last month. All of them claimed

Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Stan: Yep, the contradiction with the safety intents and regulations is evident. I don't know how they are going to resolve that. Because the ion-batteries in the checked-in luggage is also a regulation... In the end, it might mean that if you flew, say on Turkish Airlines to Europe (or even

Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Stanley Halpin
> On Mar 28, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > > ... > > In today's electronic world, when you can see (close to) real-time tracking > of FedEx and UPS packages, - you'd be surprised that the airlines (at least > many of them) do not track the movement of

Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Stanley Halpin
When I first read about the ban it gave me pause as well. Not least as it makes no sense in that it directly contradicts safety warnings about LiON batteries in checked bags. But then I read a second time. It applies not to specific airlines, but rather to any flights by any airline that

Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR
That's a good thought regarding the lenses. It might be worth checking in a while how the foreign counterparts of TSA are reading the ban. (It's often hard to argue with those.) As for the camera, the primary concern is not about damage but about theft. A valuable item in the suitcase has a

Re: The recent device ban and traveling with a camera

2017-03-28 Thread Gonz
Can't you carry your lenses on board and check in the camera with no lenses? I would think that the lenses would be more fragile, esp since you can wrap the camera in clothing and put it in your suitcase? The lenses shouldn't be considered conventional "electronic device" since they have no