Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent! All of the recent Pentax glass had been superb. This should be as well. Probably $1500 or more but less than what an FA 85/1.4 currently goes for. Paul via phone > On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: > > Well, I don't think Pentax will be encouraging

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-22 Thread Matthew Hunt
Well, I don't think Pentax will be encouraging Sigma to release the 85/1.4 in K-mount... http://pentaxrumors.com/2017/02/22/pentax-d-fa-85mm-f1-4-lens-also-on-the-2017-roadmap/ On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > Some years back, many people lamented the

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-22 Thread Jostein Øksne
Some years back, many people lamented the lack of a super tele for Pentax. Sigma had a 500/4.5 listed in their catalogue for K-mount, but not readily available. However, they did do a production run when enough people had voiced an interest. Nice lens. Full format and all, not that I need it

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >There was an interview in the past year or so, and I can't find it right >now, which listed two reasons. The first was the low volume of sales. >The other reason was Pentax's lack of electronic aperture controls. >Shortly thereafter Pentax announced the new electronic

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Zos Xavius
They stopped making new ones though. They brought over the 18-35 but not the 50-100. So as they slowly phase out lenses they will eventually make no pentax lenses at all. I like the bigma at least. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Sigma does make

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Zos Xavius
Resolution wise it looks fantastic. Better than the otus even. Is resolution everything in portraits though? I find the focus rolloff and bokeh a bit clinical but that's me. I just doesn't have enough feels if you get what I mean. Its also really large and heavy. It almost pains me to say, but I

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Sigma does make Pentax K mount lenses, but Sigma is going to make lenses they can sell. Pentax has to convince Sigma the their user base will buy their lenses to make it worth their while. Seriously, remembering the Sig[nificant] Ma[lfunctions] period. I'm always skittish of buying a Sigma

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Gonz
I was lucky enough to get an FA 85 1.4 in the bad ole days of ebay when things could be had for a lot less than market if you were patient enough. Now they cost more than many new lenses since Pentax did not make a replacement for this in full frame. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Paul

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, Im hopelessly behind. If I were shooting a lot of studio portraits I would want that. Paul via phone > On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > > The 85 art has already been released. Time to catch up. ;) > >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Paul Stenquist

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I don't know if the problem is a Pentax/Ricoh problem. It's a volume sales question and that old, vicious cycle. They probably would produce the lenses if the body sales were up ... you know how that goes. Escaping the cycle requires lots of marketing media dollars. I don't foresee that coming.

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Colen
Paul Stenquist wrote: Sigma hasn't announced an 85mm lens, at least not according to this article. You mean like this one? https://petapixel.com/2016/10/17/review-sigmas-85mm-f1-4-art-lens-exceeds-expectations/ On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: A bunch

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Zos Xavius
The 85 art has already been released. Time to catch up. ;) On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Sigma hasn't announced an 85mm lens, at least not according to this article. > >> On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> >> A

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Colen
Paul Stenquist wrote: Of the four new lenses Pentax already offers two of them, a 24-70/2.8 and the 150-450 (which is faster than the Sigma 100-400). The 14mm and 135mm would be nice additions, but perhaps Pentax is already planning to fill that gap. I probably wouldn’t want the 14mm,

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Sigma hasn't announced an 85mm lens, at least not according to this article. > On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > > A bunch of people want an 85.. > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Paul Stenquist > wrote: >> Of the four new

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Zos Xavius
A bunch of people want an 85.. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Of the four new lenses Pentax already offers two of them, a 24-70/2.8 and the > 150-450 (which is faster than the Sigma 100-400). The 14mm and 135mm would be > nice additions,

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Larry Colen
Zos Xavius wrote: Why? Because pentax decided to make cameras that Sigma lenses do not fit on anymore which cost sigma money to fix. I would say there is bad blood. The small market share isn't likely enough to convince them that kmount is worth their time. There was an interview in the past

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of the four new lenses Pentax already offers two of them, a 24-70/2.8 and the 150-450 (which is faster than the Sigma 100-400). The 14mm and 135mm would be nice additions, but perhaps Pentax is already planning to fill that gap. I probably wouldn’t want the 14mm, because the Pentax 15-30 pretty

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Zos Xavius
That would be suicidal and here is why: plenty of pentax users are leaving for canikon because they want the new sigma lenses. Pentax would be utterly foolish to discourage 3rd party options on their mount. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Ricoh

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Zos Xavius
Why? Because pentax decided to make cameras that Sigma lenses do not fit on anymore which cost sigma money to fix. I would say there is bad blood. The small market share isn't likely enough to convince them that kmount is worth their time. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Darren Addy

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Darren Addy
I would argue that it is the same reason why Apple doesn't want Adobe to stop developing software for the Mac - even when Apple has a competing product. Considering that these are all lenses in focal ratios that Pentax is probably not going to make a directly competing lens for, it helps sell more

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Gonz
But some of those lenses fill a niche unfilled by current offerings (new) from Ricoh. I guess they are hoping to fill those gaps at some point? I.e. there are no (new) extreme telephoto primes (600/4 for example, 400/2.8) in full frame. Or tilt-shift (they prolly expect software to this), or

Re: What can Pentax do to convince Sigma to make K mount lenses again?

2017-02-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ricoh probably doesn’t want Sigma to make lenses for Pentax cameras. Pentax volume is small enough as it is. Why would they want to lose some of the lens biz to a competitor? > On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > > You know Sigma has the tooling/technology.