President's oath of office or fit with the idea of high crimes and
misdimenors. But it's quite possible that l'affaire Lewinski could tip the
balance against Clinton, coming as it does on top of six years of sleaze,
betrayal, and mediocrity.
as usual, time will tell.
in pen-l solidarity,
Jim
The more relevant question with concern to the environment and hunter/gatherer
societies (including native americans) is whether their way of life is really
ecologically stable. In other words, there is the idea that the rise to
agriculture is
inevitable (but not because of self-organizing
LA PAZ, 27 January 1998 (AFP). In 1997 the amount of foreign debt of a
combined group of 23 Latin American and Caribbean countries reached 644
billion dollares These obligations grew by 50% in the period 1991-1997.
The Indicators of the foreign debt load showed a general improvement and
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So why are you holding out on us? Let's see the piece.
Sid
In this vein, FYI, I wrote a piece in New Economy (the . . .
I'm trying to get permission from Dryden Press to post
it on my web page. I also need to get the final edited
version, which differs significantly from the draft I
PJM0930 wrote:
The more relevant question with concern to the environment and
hunter/gatherer
societies (including native americans) is whether their way of life is
really
ecologically stable. In other words, there is the idea that the rise to
agriculture is
inevitable (but not because of
Ricardo Duchesne:
An excellent source on the Mayan collapse is Culbert, T.P. If I
recall, he argues, it was environmental-overexploitation. My view is
the Mayan collapse should not be seen as a unique historical event,
since collapse has been a general happening among all pre-capitalist
Ricardo,
Gosh, far be it from me to defend Uncle Louie Proyect,
but...
The sources you cite certainly make these quite
reasonable arguments. Smith, among others, makes the
argument about the Pleistocene extinctions. But I would
prefer to take the safer position of saying that we
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When I wrote this I did think of the mark the yen. I rejected the yen
on the grounds that Japan's financial structure
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Free investment regime may not help South
A policy brief by the South Centre which examines the risks and implications
associated with FDI flows to South countries suggests that rather than
accepting any or all FDI, these countries should pursue a policy of
selectivity and adopt a coordinated
There's a powerful film that relates to all this. See: It's on video
Death and the Maiden
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The Flame That Lit the World
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On Wed, January 28, 1998 at 19:39:19 (-0800) James Devine writes:
Awhile back, when I was a young 'un, one of the things that shocked
Puritanical citizens of the the US about President Nixon was the large
number of obscenities he used on a tape. This undermined support for him in
what his
On Thu, January 29, 1998 at 10:35:04 (-0500) Louis Proyect writes:
These arguments about how the indigenous peoples
slaughtered the saber-tooth tiger into extinction and Mayan
anti-environmental practices go hand in hand with the argument that disease
killed most Indians
Ricardo Duchesne:
To accuse agrarian civilizations of ecological
malpractice is simply anachronistic. To say that they collapsed
because of over-exploitation of resources is another issue...
What is your problem, Duchesne? You said: "An excellent source on the Mayan
collapse is Culbert, T.P.
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On Thu, January 29, 1998 at 07:23:19 (EST) PJM0930 writes:
What this suggests
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Hi, PJM0930. Do you know my friend QZX1288?
This raises an interesting question which the
In a message dated 98-01-28 23:31:20 EST, jim devine writes:
I know things have settled down a bit on the Monica Lewinski (sp?) front,
but in some ways the brouhaha concerning her is on the same level. Neither
the use of obscenities nor nookie with someone 20+ years younger violate the
Ricardo Duchesne:
Oviously the
notion that European capitalism developed as a result of the
exploitation of the Third World has been so roundly refuted I need
not elaborate this here. Just a handy, if incomplete, stats: At
most 2% of Europe's GNP at the end of 18th century took the
The Washington News Bureau interviewed 100 women about Bill Clinton's sex
appeal. They asked the women; "If you ever had a chance, would you have
sexual relations with Bill Clinton."
85 of the women replied; "What, again?"
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Which brings me to my latest and favorite half-baked-idea-which-i-have-not-
really-thought-through-in-the-academic-fullness-it-probably-deserves: That
this entire thing was hatched by Hillary (Bill doesn't have enough brains) to
discredit Kenneth
Since it is absofuckinglutely impossible to turn on the news and NOT hear
about sexgate, I have been watching alot of the interviews with the Man and
Woman on the street. It seems most people end with a note of "who cares" and
"the only one who should be concerned is Hilary." And, to
Well as a matter of fact in my article I cited some
examples from very technologically advanced societies that
have retained "traditional feudal property arrangements"
that successfully operate in the manner so described. One
of the most famous are the Alpine grazing commons in
A proviso on my China commentary (foreseeing a possible
response):
Generally early dynastic expansionism and outwardness
was focused on relatively nearby neighbors, perhaps due to
these neighbors more likely willing to acknowledge China's
self-declared position as the "Middle
On Thu, January 29, 1998 at 16:10:12 (+) Max B. Sawicky writes:
Ricardo Duchesne:
Oviously the
notion that European capitalism developed as a result of the
exploitation of the Third World has been so roundly refuted I need
not elaborate this here. Just a handy, if incomplete, stats:
Gar Lipow ended his post thus:
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I know we've had forwards on peace groups and demonstrations and such
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The following are the top few paragraphs of an article which appeared in the
Tacoma News Tribune of Yesterday, Jan 28th -- apparently bought form Newsday.
Does the refusal to rule out nukes make anyone besides me nervous? Apparently
the
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Those quotation marks are not out of place there, Tom; using them in
a straight substitution where a=b: "the pope of finance capitalism."
The one time I ever saw him, being pointed out to me on a shopping street
in southern
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Richardson_D wrote:
So perhaps the plan is to make the mark into much more of an
international currency. The question for the global economy is then
whether Germany, with or without the EC, is willing to assume the role
of the U.S. as the consumer of last resort.
valis wrote:
Gar Lipow ended his post thus:
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I know we've had forwards on peace groups and demonstrations and such
lately -- all extremely important. But I
Exploitation or theft have nothing to do with the
extent to which colonization fueled capitalist
development. What matters are returns in
excess of cost. Even thievery is not possible
without costs to the perpetrator. ...
Sure, but if you only measure the GNP returns of trade, you are
Friends,
The most recent issue of the Rev. of Rad. Pol. Economy has articles by
pen-lers Doug Henwood (On wall street and the economy) and David
Richardson (On the CPI controversy). There are also interesting
articles on the "Future of Capitalism." John Foster has a good article
on capitalism
Bill,
After I responded I realized I may have
misunderstood what you and LP said.
I agree the colonizer's gain could be more than
offset by the victimized country's economic
losses, so that we could say in net terms
capitalist colonization did not contribute to the
world's productive
I'm surprised he's that frank. ;-)
Sid
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5. Beaches
We did the beaches too, twice. The first day our friends took us to Caleta
Abarca. Legend has it that Abarca was a local fisherman who organized his
fellow workers, forming a trade union that fought for fishermen's rights.
He became so well known that the place was known as
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998
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In the next few weeks, the political representatives for the OECD
countries will be meeting (the week of February 16th) to decide
whether to:
a) proceed with the negotiations for the MAI or
b) to scrap the agreement
It should be noted that although he technically
conquered Tibet, Emperor Qianlong allowed local autonomy
and left the theocracy of the Dalai Lamas in place. He
also conquered Xinjiang, a conquest that would hold except
for a brief period in the 20th century. Thus his
expansionism was
Repeating posts here again. Will simply note that the
origins of modern democracy come from Scandinavia, not
Greece, a distant and very imperfect image/ideal. The
oldest continuously existing parliement is the Althing of
Iceland. These were/are small farmer societies with little
As regards China, a long historical pattern there,
drawing heavily on internal conditions but affecting its
external relations, was the pattern of the dynastic cycle,
tied in turn to the management of the agro-hydraulic
infrastructure.
Typical dynasties, at least quite a few of them,
While I don't dispute that Indians were treated horribly, and I certainly
don't dispute the death statistics, you must remember that in the late 18th
and early 19th century child and female mortality rates were high for
everyone. The average life span for everyone was under 40 years of age
Ricardo Duchesne:
Oviously the
notion that European capitalism developed as a result of the
exploitation of the Third World has been so roundly refuted I need
not elaborate this here. Just a handy, if incomplete, stats: At
most 2% of Europe's GNP at the end of 18th century took the form of
Bill Lear:
Actually, I believe that both Stannard's *American Holocaust* and
Thornton's *American Indian Holocaust and Survival* make it clear that
most Indians were in fact done in by disease.
Actually, what Stannard argues is that the diseases that killed most North
American Indians were a
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Ricardo Duchesne:
An excellent source on the Mayan collapse is
On Thu, January 29, 1998 at 07:23:19 (EST) PJM0930 writes:
The more relevant question with concern to the environment and
hunter/gatherer societies (including native americans) is whether
their way of life is really ecologically stable. In other words,
there is the idea that the rise to
Louis,
You should not presume that disease is not genocidal,
although mostly it is not. There was at least one infamous
case of Indians being given a smallpox-infected blanket
quite consciously. BTW, most scholarly sources that I have
read suggest that indeed the larger numbers of
Since Dave R. posted a bunch (of good ones), I can't resist posting two of
the best from the joke page of the L.A. TIMES:
** Instead of firing her, Clinton should have taken Joycelyn Elders' advice.
** U.N. arms inspector Richard Butler stated that there are enough chemical
weapons in Iraq to
THE ASIATIC MODE OF PRODUCTION
Perry Anderson (1974:548) asked that the Asiatic Mode of
Production [AMP] "be given the decent burial that it deserves."
That is very decent of him, since the AMP hardly deserves even
that. We need not go into the controversial and controverted
history of this
at 1/28/98 11:44 pm
Original Recipient(s):
SOA WATCH - URGENT ACTION ALERT
25 Receive a Six Month Prison Term and $3,000 Fine!
On November 16, 1997, the 8th anniversary of the massacre of 6 Jesuit priests
and 2 women co-workers by US Army School of the Americas (SOA) graduates, 601
people
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Devine, I don't know how to erase quickly what I need from here, so
look for my responses below.
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More silly reading for the morning.
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BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 28, 1998
_Private industry wages accelerated in
Vox populi, according to the NYT:
But most people here said private sin has little to do with public
statesmanship. "I might not think of him[Clinton] as a good husband," said
Scott Inman, a 36-year-old warehouse worker, "but I approve of him as a
president."
And some might judge Clinton more
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