Free market gains in Bangladesh

2001-04-15 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, April 15, 2001 Lives Held Cheap in Bangladesh Sweatshops By BARRY BEARAK NARSINGDI, Bangladesh — The fire in the garment factory began on the fourth floor, where polo shirts, neatly folded in boxes, made a fine feast for the hungry flames. The 1,250 workers scampered for their

India's new middle class

2001-04-15 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times Magazine, April 15, 2001 Keeping Up With the Shidhayes: India's New Middle Class By JAMES TRAUB There is an expression you hear nowadays in Aurangabad, a city of about a million souls located 150 miles northeast of Bombay, that would have made absolutely no sense when I lived there

Re: Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Louis Proyect
Average life expectancy in India is 63 years, 44% of Indians over 15 are illiterate, 53% of Indians under 5 are malnourished. India's poverty rate appears to have held constant over the decade of the 1990s. But I don't see how anything is going to push India's poverty rate down until

Lenin and Rosa L.

2001-04-15 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Hi Jim, Check out the critique of Lenin's theory by Rosa L., certainly no bourgeois thinker (500 Years of Revolution: European Radicals from Hus to Lenin. Charles George. 237-239.) Or am I misreading your words on Lenin and the Russian Revolution? Seth "The Russian revolution was

Re: Lenin and Rosa L.

2001-04-15 Thread Michael Pugliese
Maybe the MIA archive online has the pamphlet that Univ. of Michigan Press gave the title, "Leninism or Marxism, "(arrgh goes Lou) ed. by Bertram Wolfe by Red Rosa. http://www.google.com/search?q=Luxemberg+on+Lenin Avoid the fascist, "Jew Watch, " website on these hits. Michael Pugliese -

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Ken Hanly
Isnt it important to look at these issues at the state level. For example, Kerala as I recall is more progressive in many respects than some other states. By the way I do not think that citing growth statistics is just baiting leftists. It is a standard but exceedingly dubious measure of

theory practice

2001-04-15 Thread jdevine
On another list, someone had an apt thought about the issue of whether or not we should discuss theory on pen-l, by implication including issues of how socialism can and should be organized as a socio-econonomic system: At best, theory and practice are distinct but not separate. Perhaps you

Re: Lenin and Rosa L.

2001-04-15 Thread jdevine
I wrote: The Russian revolution was well-nigh inevitable. Lenin and the Bolsheviks stepped in and tried to make it a good thing for workers and peasants. The imperialist powers invaded and encouraged the civil war (which would have happened anyway), so Lenin _et al_ had little choice but to

Re: Re: Lenin and Rosa L.

2001-04-15 Thread Michael Pugliese
Michael Pugliese writes: Maybe the MIA archive online has the pamphlet that Univ. of Michigan Press gave the title, "Leninism or Marxism," ... ed. by Bertram Wolfe by Red Rosa. The title was chosen in order to enlist Rosa L. in the Cold War against the USSR. If I remember correctly, Wolfe

Re: Lenin and Rosa L.

2001-04-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Jim D. writes: (I'm wondering when the neoliberal revolution will create a "god that failed" generation. It's quite a religious movement, with a lot of political power, and they're producing a world-wide disaster. Some of the more enlightened folks -- e.g., those who don't reflexively use GDP

Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Although this thread began with some early taunts and flames, I think it is helping to shape out a picture of what growth means. I have not seen any professional academic journal article -- probably due to my own ignorance -- that describes how growth affects difference classes and sub-classes.

India-Nepal trade

2001-04-15 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.frontlineonline.com/fl1808/18080630.htm Business not as usual India-Nepal trade relations force another round of turbulence. RITA MANCHANDA IT has been open season on Nepal, first with Indian intelligence agencies raising an alarm about the Himalayan kingdom becoming the new base

Canadian Attempts to Reform Russian Bankruptcy Laws

2001-04-15 Thread Ken Hanly
The Globe and Mail (Canada) April 14, 2001 Canadians red-faced over Russian bankruptcy laws By GEOFFREY YORK Moscow - When the Canadian government was spending more than $1-million to help draft Russian bankruptcy legislation, its supporters bragged that the new law would be a pillar of reform.

Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Brad says Brad DeLong wrote: Rates of growth of GDP per capita, India: 1950-19801.1% per year 1980-19903.3% per year 1990-20004.2% per year At the pace of the last decade, India's real productivity is doubling every seventeen years (compared to a doubling time of 65 years before

Education

2001-04-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* new internationalist issue 241 - March 1993 KERALA old and new... THE OLD Education was traditionally the domain of the higher castes - the Namboodiris, Nairs and Syrian Orthodox Christians. But with the Europeans came missionaries who set up church schools to instruct and convert

growth inequality

2001-04-15 Thread jdevine
Michael Perelman writes: Rapid growth [of real GDP?] seems to be associated, in most cases, with deteriorating conditions for the lowest quintile, differentiation within the less impoverished classes, and wild accumulations for the top -- sort of like our own "new economy" until the late 1990s.

Re: Re: Re: Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Anthony D'Costa
Most recent studies on Indian poverty show that the level of poverty has fallen, has been falling since the 1980s. But sheer numbers are large and the official poverty line in India in reality is bare subsistence. The Indian "middle" class is a misnomer. It is really the upper class, given the

objective economic science

2001-04-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Leonard, Thomas C. 2000. "The Very Idea of Applying Economics: The Modern Minimum-Wage Controversy and Its Antecedents." in Roger E. Backhouse and Jeff Biddle, eds. Toward a History of Applied Economics (Durham and London: Duke University Press): pp. 117-44. 117 n: "In the wake of Curd

Re: objective economic science

2001-04-15 Thread Ian Murray
Leonard, Thomas C. 2000. "The Very Idea of Applying Economics: The Modern Minimum-Wage Controversy and Its Antecedents." in Roger E. Backhouse and Jeff Biddle, eds. Toward a History of Applied Economics (Durham and London: Duke University Press): pp. 117-44. 117 n: "In the wake

Re: Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Brad DeLong
Brad says Brad DeLong wrote: Rates of growth of GDP per capita, India: 1950-1980 1.1% per year 1980-1990 3.3% per year 1990-2000 4.2% per year At the pace of the last decade, India's real productivity is doubling every seventeen years (compared to a doubling time of 65 years before

Re: Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Brad DeLong
Although this thread began with some early taunts and flames, I think it is helping to shape out a picture of what growth means. I have not seen any professional academic journal article -- probably due to my own ignorance -- that describes how growth affects difference classes and sub-classes.

Re: Re: Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Michael Perelman
A key component of Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan was land reform. Also, education of the lower classes, something that the World Bank has been discouraging by demanding payment. Also, you tend to take unrepresentative samples. Finally, of the countries that you names, Japan, China, S. Korea, and

Hawaii Educators' Strike - Your Help Is Needed

2001-04-15 Thread Stephen E Philion
Folks on PEN, feel free to circulate this important message to other lists. It's now day 8 of the strike and negotiations have not made that much progress. I'm part of an effort to get students on the picket lines to show support for the faculty union here. It's a story that hasn't gotten much

Re: theory practice

2001-04-15 Thread phillp2
(BTW, contrary to Brad's misrepresentation, there are many socialists -- including some on pen-l -- who think it's worthwhile to look before leaping, to think about what socialism might look like.) -- Jim Devine Actually, contrary to Jim's assertion here, it is Michael who has been

Re: Re: Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Anthony D'Costa
You will also find horror stories with the CPM, and this is coming from a CPM sympathetizer (that's me). From a distance everything looks sanitized. The ground reality is far more complex. xxx Anthony P. D'Costa,

go for it: was theory practice

2001-04-15 Thread Michael Perelman
My intention was to stop a rehash of Hayek and market socialism. That debate seemed to be repeating itself. I suspect that we will not see to much new, but if you want to give it a whirl, go for it. On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 10:45:57PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (BTW, contrary to

Re: Water pollution in Mexico

2001-04-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Water is fast becoming the bottleneck to development. Canada is probably unique in having so much good water per capita. I suspect that within 10 years, the world will be turning its attention far more to water than to oil. Sort of a global version of Chinatown -- the old movie. Now, NAFTA is

Re: Re: Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Anthony D'Costa
On this I will have to agree with Brad. I think the (advanced capitalist country) left tends to dismiss growth. It is possible that growth is likely to lead to inequality initially (Kuznets curve) but it does not have to remain that way. If as we find in the Korean case, labor-intensive

Re: Re: Re: Re: What is going on?

2001-04-15 Thread Anthony D'Costa
But I don't recall that growth had to be free market oriented. It was simply growth, and as far as I know, India's growth rates over the various decades provided covered different regimes. Strictly speaking India does not play by market rules, although today it does more so than before.

H-ASIA: Kerala Assembly Election Database WWW (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Anthony D'Costa
FYI xxx Anthony P. D'Costa, Associate Professor Comparative International Development University of WashingtonCampus Box 358436 1900 Commerce Street Tacoma, WA 98402, USA Phone: (253) 692-4462