David Shemano writes:
The issue is not whether East Germany, or any other socialist
economy, was less able [...]
Yes it was -- the part you are responding to. It was about regions.
I wanted to show that you probably didn't even know where Europe is...
let alone why Germany is not a unit.
There
Ken, this comes close to baiting.
On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 01:38:03AM -0400, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
David Shemano writes:
The issue is not whether East Germany, or any other socialist
economy, was less able [...]
Yes it was -- the part you are responding to. It was about regions.
I
Michael writes:
Ken, this comes close to baiting.
Sorry. True... it could... but there is a difference, don't you think?
I was baiting on a personal level (You freaking lawyers!) or just
the unexpected kind on this list (As a group, US lawyers are not well
trained in other cultures)?
Ken.
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August 15, 2004
U.S. can redeem itself after Venezuelans vote
By Elliott Young
History News Service
http://www.registerguard.com/news/2004/08/15/f1.ed.col.venezuela.0815.html
Venezuela will face the most important election in its history today. For
the first time, Venezuelans will vote
I would not like to see an extended Stalin debate.
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Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Thank God he won! Still, I have a question. If 70% of the people are poor, how did
the opposition get so many votes?
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Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Rosenstrasse (Margarethe von Trotta's new film Rosenstrasse tells a
little known story of the 1943 protest of thousands of non-Jewish
German women who had resisted the Nazi pressures on them to divorce
their Jewish husbands, demonstrated when their husbands were finally
rounded up, and, most
Half the British working classes regularly voted for Thatcher. Vast numbers of American workers are rock-solid Republicans. Why do people vote against their own interests? This question is an old topic. Frank's Kansas book is the current best left survey of the question from a US perspective; Mike
In a message dated 8/16/2004 5:39:53 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stalin was not hated (by most people). He was worshipped (by most people). Being a brutal dictator does not necessarily mean that you are hated or seen as illegitimate by the people over whom you are
possible explanations:
higher turnout among the escualidos
steady anti-government propaganda in private media
belief that relations with the U.S. would improve if the opposition won
some personal dislike of HCF
But 58.26% isn't bad in a recall election. Not bad at all.
At 07:31 AM 8/16/2004 -0700,
--- andie nachgeborenen:
I agree with about the good Czar with under
Stalinism, but that is not an example of socialist
democracy -- I don't think you think it is either.
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Certainly not.
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--- andie nachgeborenen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with your reservations about the term
Stalinism, I just don't have a better one.
I agree with about the good Czar with under
Stalinism, but that is not an example of socialist
democracy -- I don't think you think it is either.
jks
In a message dated 8/15/2004 1:00:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The American system of vehicle production was very bureaucratic . . . but less than that of the Soviets and much more than that of the Japanese producers . . . in terms of democratic input of the workers .
Thanks, Doyle, for your suggestion for dialogue on the
left about what is happening at KPFA (and around the
network). Given how vital Pacifica potentially should
be for a revitalized left, I think such a conversation
is valuable. Please note that when I make broad
statements about the actions of
Agreed. That's playing with fire.
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wrote:
I would not like to see an extended Stalin debate.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Venezuelans have voted to keep Hugo Chávez as their president, electoral
authorities said early this morning after 18 hours of voting, reported Juan
Forero for the New York Times at 9 AM Monday. The national electoral
council president, Francisco Carrasquero, announced at 4 AM that Mr. Chávez
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why does the Japanese produce better vehicles and the
old Soviet vehicles ... as massed produced . . . not
specialized .. . were of an inferior quality? One
thread of thought says the Soviet system was inferior
to the American system and the Soviet workers were
lazy,
Support for Chavez Unwavering in Slums of Venezuelan Capital
Ken Silverstein
The LA Times
August 16, 2004
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chavez16aug16,1,1415624.story
CARACAS, Venezuela The rich hate him, saying he has stirred up
class warfare. The privately owned media,
Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:05:41
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why does the Japanese produce better vehicles and the
old Soviet vehicles ... as massed produced . . . not
specialized .. . were of an inferior quality? One
thread of thought says the Soviet system was inferior
to the American system and the Soviet workers were
lazy,
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