Re: Keralan growth

2001-02-01 Thread Margaret Coleman
I also agree with Jim Devine. One reason GDP does not measure real growth in many countries such as India is that the markets there are not fully capitalized, much of the economic exchange is still represented by barter and home production. The standard national accounting system does not

Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread Jim Devine
[was: Re: [PEN-L:7538] Re: Re: Re: Re: Buck Fush] Barkley wrote: The big negative, as has been noted on this list before, is that Kerala has had quite slow per capita GDP growth leading to a lot of outmigration. also, doesn't per capita GDP growth in essence measure only growth of

Re: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: Barkley wrote: The big negative, as has been noted on this list before, is that Kerala has had quite slow per capita GDP growth leading to a lot of outmigration. also, doesn't per capita GDP growth in essence measure only growth of market-oriented production and would

RE: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread David Shemano
Jim Devine wrote: Barkley wrote: The big negative, as has been noted on this list before, is that Kerala has had quite slow per capita GDP growth leading to a lot of outmigration. also, doesn't per capita GDP growth in essence measure only growth of

Re: Re: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: also, doesn't per capita GDP growth in essence measure only growth of market-oriented production and would thus miss the growth of goods and services that aren't distributed through markets? Aren't measures of literacy, life expectancy, etc. better measures of what we on pen-l value

Re: Re: Re: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread ravi narayan
Jim Devine wrote: to quibble, shouldn't we separate "economic development" from "growth of per capita GDP"? I guess what you're saying is that if development is serving the collective but doesn't promote individual monetary prosperity (which is measured by GDP-type measures), that some

Re: RE: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread Jim Devine
At 11:31 AM 1/30/01 -0800, you wrote: Is there any better way to judge what people actually value other than to observe migrations? unfortunately, migrations also reflect the relative ease of border crossing, the relative perceived attractiveness of the country moved to, along with such

Re: Re: Re: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: to quibble, shouldn't we separate "economic development" from "growth of per capita GDP"? I guess what you're saying is that if development is serving the collective but doesn't promote individual monetary prosperity (which is measured by GDP-type measures), that some

RE: Re: RE: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread David Shemano
Jim Devine wrote: At 11:31 AM 1/30/01 -0800, you wrote: Is there any better way to judge what people actually value other than to observe migrations? unfortunately, migrations also reflect the relative ease of border crossing, the relative perceived attractiveness

Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Actually I would agree with Jim Devine that economic and social development are closely linked and best measured by the kinds of indicators gathered by the UN with its physical quality of life indexes, etc. Economic growth is what is measured by per capita GDP, and certainly having a high

Re: Re: Re: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread Anthony DCosta
xxx On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Jim Devine wrote: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:26:12 -0800 From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:7543] Re: Re: Keralan growth I wrote

Re: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Sure, specific migrations are unique and complicated. But are you taking the position that you cannot examine migrations in a macro sense and obtain valuable information regarding what people desire and value? David Shemano * The Times of India Thursday, 6 April 2000 `Kerala economy too

Re: RE: Re: RE: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread Jim Devine
I believe it was David who asked: Is there any better way to judge what people actually value other than to observe migrations? I answered: unfortunately, migrations also reflect the relative ease of border crossing, the relative perceived attractiveness of the country moved to, along with

Re: Re: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
:53 PM Subject: [PEN-L:7556] Re: Keralan growth Sure, specific migrations are unique and complicated. But are you taking the position that you cannot examine migrations in a macro sense and obtain valuable information regarding what people desire and value? David Shemano * The Times

Re: Re: Re: Re: Keralan growth

2001-01-30 Thread Michael Perelman
xxx On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Jim Devine wrote: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:26:12 -0800 From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:7543] Re: Re: Keralan growth I wrote: also, doesn't per capita GDP growth in essence measure