Re: Richard Rorty *- demise of left

1998-04-24 Thread Doug Henwood
James Devine wrote: I thought that the point of left politics in the 1990s was not to oppose the old left vs. the new, etc., etc., but to try to seek a synthesis, criticizing the lefts both old and new (ruthlessly, of course, to use Marx's word), but while rejecting the "bad," also trying to

Re: Richard Rorty *- demise of left

1998-04-23 Thread Richard K. Moore
Dear Louis list, I understand where the analysis (at bottom of this message) is coming from, and what information it is based on, but I suggest it is in error, based on important facts not taken into consideration. To begin with, the New Left was not overly marxist at all. It was quite in

Re: Richard Rorty *- demise of left

1998-04-23 Thread Gar W. Lipow
The interesting thing is that your analysis -- that defeat of the left cannot be blamed on the left itself is an extremely pessimistic one. Of course , if it is true it is true -- but look at the implication. If the left is not screwing up big time and we losing this badly then things pretty

Re: Richard Rorty *- demise of left

1998-04-23 Thread Nathan Newman
-Original Message- From: Richard K. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Richard Rorty *- demise of left I understand where the analysis (at bottom of this message) is coming from, and what information it is based on, but I suggest it is in error

Re: Richard Rorty *- demise of left

1998-04-23 Thread James Devine
I thought that the point of left politics in the 1990s was not to oppose the old left vs. the new, etc., etc., but to try to seek a synthesis, criticizing the lefts both old and new (ruthlessly, of course, to use Marx's word), but while rejecting the "bad," also trying to find the "good" on both