BBC denies Israel influenced coverage of conflict
By Phil Reeves in Jerusalem
The Independent, 21 September 2001
A senior Israeli official publicly
boasted yesterday that Israel has
influenced the editorial policy of
the BBC in its coverage of the
Middle East conflict.
The claims have
The U.S. is not merely bombing. It's going to
invade and depose the government. Or at
least Bush implied that it's going to.
The speech was very specific in its open-
endedness. Afghanistan is the first target,
but implicitly about 7 other countries are
fair game as well. But in any case
My son has put up a web page on terrorism, Afghanistan, etc. at:
http://sonewmedia.com/resources/war2001/
If you have good stuff send it to him at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Max Sawicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:19 AM
To: [EMAIL
The patriotic rally following Bush's speech doesn't appear to be
materializing. European markets slid 7%. NASDAQ gapped down nearly 6% at the
opening. SP down 4%. Investors seem to be shouting (with their money),
Hell no, we won't go!
Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
604 947 2213
AIRLINES IN TROUBLE: Analysts see a tough market for carriers
Layoffs, cutbacks loom as travelers hit the road
September 17, 2001
MARY SCHLANGENSTEIN
BLOOMBERG NEWS
Shares in U.S.-based airlines are expected to fall dramatically today, the first
trading day since hijackings temporarily
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From: Tom Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 6:44 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:17481] Not good
The patriotic rally following Bush's speech doesn't appear to be
materializing. European markets slid 7%. NASDAQ gapped down nearly
EMH? LPT?
Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
604 947 2213
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From: Tom Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:42 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:17484] Re: Not good
EMH? LPT?
Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
604 947 2213
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efficient markets hypothesis and liquidity preference theory.
Call for papers
Cities as Strategic Sites: Militarisation, Anti-Globalism, and Warfare
Organised by Stephen Graham and Simon Marvin
Manchester, UK, 7-9th November 2002
(Apologies for cross-posting)
(Please note this outline was prepared before the appalling events in New
York and Washington
At 05:42 PM 9/20/01 -0700, you wrote:
http://www.georgetown.edu/oweiss/ibn.htm
This fascinating-looking article quotes Marx as saying wages of labour
must equal the production of labour (based on Eric Roll's citation). Did
he really say that? It doesn't fit what he said in CAPITAL, while
At least six Saudis identified as hijackers are alive and well. Only last
week the FBI claimed they were confident they had identified the suspects.
The Saudis named are horrified to find themselves identified as the
hijackers. On the other hand, they are no doubt glad to be alive. All this
makes
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, SEPTEMBER 20, 2001:
The Federal Reserve in its latest Beige book finds that business
activity was sluggish in nearly all of the Fed's 12 regions -- if not
weakening -- in the 6 weeks period prior to the September 11 terrorist
attacks in New York
I noticed that Bush made particularl reference to the Taliban requirements
that beards must be at least a certain length. Sikhs are not allowed to cut
any body hair as I understand it. They all have beards don't they? I wonder
how the Sikhs must feel about such a reference.
Religious
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/704367.html
Stephen Philion
Lecturer/PhD Candidate
Department of Sociology
2424 Maile Way
Social Sciences Bldg. # 247
Honolulu, HI 96822
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/703775.html
Stephen Philion
Lecturer/PhD Candidate
Department of Sociology
2424 Maile Way
Social Sciences Bldg. # 247
Honolulu, HI 96822
Tom Walker wrote:
The patriotic rally following Bush's speech doesn't appear to be
materializing. European markets slid 7%. NASDAQ gapped down nearly 6% at the
opening. SP down 4%. Investors seem to be shouting (with their money),
Hell no, we won't go!
Ok, we're on the PEN-L bear watch again.
Tom Walker wrote:
The patriotic rally following Bush's speech doesn't appear to be
materializing. European markets slid 7%. NASDAQ gapped down nearly 6% at the
opening. SP down 4%. Investors seem to be shouting (with their money),
Hell no, we won't go!
Doug H. wrote
Ok, we're on the PEN-L
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From: Des
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:58 AM
Subject: [workersdemocracy] Translation of an article from a turkish newspaper
The following is a translation from an article appearing in a Turkish Newspaper
The United States is going to
Many Muslims have been declaring that all Muslims must obey the declaration of
a holy war by the Taliban mullahs.
This view that emanates from many Muslims flies in the face of the facts.
Muslims have over the years violently attacked each other. In Afghanistan the
Northern Alliance consists of
At 11:04 AM 9/21/01 -0500, you wrote:
I noticed that Bush made particularl reference to the Taliban requirements
that beards must be at least a certain length. Sikhs are not allowed to cut
any body hair as I understand it. They all have beards don't they? I wonder
how the Sikhs must feel about
That article from a "Turkish newspaper" originally
appeared last weekend on an Israeli new service website called Debka File (www.debka.com) - it appears to be a very well
informed source. There are some editorial changes in the Turkish
edition.
Stephen F. DiamondSchool of Law Santa Clara
One of the interesting dimensions of the testimony
on the Hill yesterday was the effort people like new SEC Chair Harvey Pitt to
stress that the measures taken to "stabilize" the market were not meant to
interfere with the private sector as the engine of our economy.
Maybe. It will be
Jim,
I think the use of the word crusade was consciously
chosen, but not to "offend" the Arab world generally. My understanding is that
he used it once, there was some protest but then he used it again. I think
the aim is to see what kind of reaction there was to the use of the word in the
Lou Proyect on his list made the point that he ignored the treatment of
women, concentrating on beards for fear of offending the leaders of the
good muslim states.
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 11:03:59AM -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
At 11:04 AM 9/21/01 -0500, you wrote:
I noticed that Bush made
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2001:
RELEASED TODAY: Regional and state unemployment rates generally were
stable in August. All four regions recorded small changes from July, and
43 states and the District of Columbia reported shifts of 0.3 percentage
Today I checked out the recently published Bertrand Russell biography
by Ray Monk from the library. I'm finding it interesting.
In 1922, Russell wrote two articles that Monk weaves together into
something that captured my attention in particular.
'The future of mankind depends upon the action
The more evidence that we get from the media, the more I'm convinced
that all of the hijackers were engaged in identity theft prior to the
crimes.
(Identity theft is of course the stealing of someone else's
identification papers (driver's licenses, passports, credit cards, etc)
and using them
[FT]
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The Long View: Rules of engagement
By Barry Riley
Published: September 21 2001 15:37 | Last Updated: September 21 2001
16:02
Abruptly the rules in the financial markets have been changed. We had
become accustomed, during the 1990s, to the era of central banking
At 21/09/01 12:45 -0400, Doug wrote:
Ok, we're on the PEN-L bear watch again. What do you think we should do if
the market keeps falling? Just what does it mean that it does? If it means
a very bad economy ahead, what does that mean? Right now you're sounding
like the color guy in the ICU,
. . .
The well-known theory that Iraq and not Bin Laden was behind the 1993
WTC bombing relies on an alleged instance of identity theft. That
theory has been disparaged here on pen-l.
Evidently the question of identity is also a surrogate
for a policy debate within the Bush Admin. One faction
Terrorism ... is like a virus that can easily mutate. *
The analogy with a virus is apt.
Despite the horror of the WTC bombings, terrorism as such is not lethal to
capitalism. The system will react with shock, and then gradually with an
array of defensive mechanisms that limit the damage the
As I recall he did not entirely ignore the treatment of women. He mentioned
that they could not receive an education as I recall...
Cheers, Ken Hanly
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From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:54 PM
Subject:
Below, I try to set the record straight.
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:58:02 -0500, Andrew Hagen wrote:
William Safire reports that Bush wanted to fly back to Washington from
Florida the morning of September 11. I don't want some tinhorn
terrorists keeping me out of Washington. Then, a message was
I don't know what ICU is, but the gloating, muted as it might be given the
circumstances, has to do with the puncturing of the triumphalism of
neoliberalism, which has probably done more damage than the World Trade
bombers.
Doug has correctly reminded us that the downturn also will claim many
The letter is now
online and can be viewed and signed at:
http://www.petitionpetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=2535
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DON'T LET A TRAGEDY TURN INTO A WAR
The tragedy that occurred on September 11th in the US is unspeakable.
Thousands of innocent people lost their lives and are
I hate to sound like the wimpy bourgeois liberal I am, but what's wrong with
the usual rule that when a crime, even a very terrible crime, has been
committed, the government has to gatherevidence, make a showing of probable
cause that they have the right guy, then make a serious effort to
Michael Perelman wrote:
I don't know what ICU is
Intensive care unit.
Doug
Justin Schwartz wrote:
I hate to sound like the wimpy bourgeois liberal I am, but what's
wrong with the usual rule that when a crime, even a very terrible
crime, has been committed, the government has to gatherevidence,
make a showing of probable cause that they have the right guy, then
make
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:43:31 -0500, Carrol Cox wrote:
The Great Plains should be
grass only, with limited grazing stock so that the grass needed no
irrigation, etc. etc. etc.
On a practical level, are you suggesting that the government should
pass a law to this effect? Kick out farmers who
Justin wrote:
I'm as patriotic as the next fella, and a lot more than many on this list,
but what makes me proud insofar as I am is that we respect due process,
not that we think we can jsut kill whoever regardless of proof.
what, do you want to end business as usual?
Jim Devine [EMAIL
I hear you, Justin, and I agree with the need for due process. IMHO,
however, the attack had more of a military, or para-military, character
than it did a criminal character. From what we know, they attacked an
economic hub and a military base, and tried to attack a political
headquarters. Taken
Obviously, Andrew doesn't live on the prairies or deal with
agricultural issues. Pity.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
Most of the Great Plains does not need irrigation to produce crops with
enormous yields, year after year. There are many problems such as
overuse of
"The federal government doesnt seem
to understand that the enemy is supposed to be terrorism, not
capitalism!"
www.mises.orgreaction to government
intervention since WTC attack.
Below are a few interesting quotations from the beginning of the
article. It seems the author left out the Queen of England. Doesn't he
realize that QEII is the real mastermind behind all the world's evil?
And I was also surprised he failed to mention the Screen Actors Guild.
And why didn't
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/21/MN
224103.DTL
And, I'll mention this to squeeze two thingeroos iinto one post, this from
the SF Weekly http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/2001-09-19/mecklin.html
with an interesting connection between a Dubya associate and an
I'm a native of Fargo, North Dakota, and have spent quite a lot of time
on farms in the Great Plains. Do you have a more specific objection to
my remarks? Maybe I made some error.
Andrew Hagen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:48:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Obviously, Andrew
Noam Chomsky's position on the attack of September 11 was carried by
B92, and reprinted in Counterpunch.
http://www.counterpunch.org/chomskyintv.html
The initial question and its answer are striking. Chomsky is asked,
Why do you think these attacks happened? In response, he engages in a
long,
pretty persumptious, don't you think?
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 09:30:24PM -0500, Andrew Hagen wrote:
Noam Chomsky's position on the attack of September 11 was carried by
B92, and reprinted in Counterpunch.
http://www.counterpunch.org/chomskyintv.html
The initial question and its answer
[the Independent]
Robert Fisk: How to devastate the world in one easy lesson
22 September 2001
The pilot looked at me as though I was a fool. Eighteen months? You
think it takes 18 months to learn how to fly a Boeing 757 once it's in
the air?'' Far below us the clouds of northern Europe passed
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:22:09 -0700, Michael Pugliese wrote:
And, I'll mention this to squeeze two thingeroos iinto one post, this from
the SF Weekly http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/2001-09-19/mecklin.html
with an interesting connection between a Dubya associate and an older half brother
of Osama
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:39:15 -0700, Michael Perelman wrote:
pretty persumptious, don't you think?
I stand by what I've written.
Andrew Hagen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Funny, your reading is totally different from mine. I read Chomsky as
stating that the perpetrators of this crime were at one point funded by
the CIA and that that is what makes it necesary to then analyze the
relationship between US foreign policy and this incident. Furthermore, his
argument
Reminded me of this John Birch Society polemic on the neo-con
interlopers.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1996/vo12no16/vo12no16_invasion.htm
...But the Old Right still lives - at the Rockford Institute, the Ludwig
von Mises Institute, the John Birch Society, and in the pages of such
Well, I just have lived for the past -- well almost 40 years on the
prairies -- rode my horses, lived in my rural communtity, etc.
cultimated my garden, tendered my pasture, etc, etc.
Yea and we had a hell of a time with chemical crop dusters. Yea
and we had a real problem with drought. Yea
At 09:44 PM 09/21/2001 -0500, you wrote:
The author of the piece seems to be interested in
linking George W. Bush to Osama Bin Laden. For a host of reasons, I
think it's unlikely they are friends or associates. A more interesting
angle would be if OBL regards GWB as a particularly hated rival
Oy vey! More Counter-Iconography.Wolin, has many articles over the yrs.
in Telos. His anthology on Heidegger with an interview with Derrida
attracted the lawyers of Derrida. Second edition of the book from MIT Press
did not have the interview.
Michael Pugliese
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I'm sorry to hear about your horses. You're not kidding about drought.
Drought is a recurring problem for farmers and ranchers on the Great
Plains. I need to qualify my previous response. On the whole,
irrigation is not necessary for successful farming and ranching in the
region. Drought is
I hear you, Justin, and I agree with the need for due process. IMHO,
however, the attack had more of a military, or para-military, character
than it did a criminal character. From what we know, they attacked an
economic hub and a military base, and tried to attack a political
headquarters.
George Wright, who just signed on to pen-l, gave a talk in Chico a few
days ago at a peace demonstration. Because he criticized US foreign
policy in strong terms, he was jeered. The local paper wrote about it
and someone forwarded it to Dow Jones. The national attention won him a
thick stack
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-092101probe.story
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From: Martin Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michael, Are you sure everyone in To: header on this e-mail wanted their
e-mail addresses forwarded to umpteen other recipients, including mail
lists...?
http://www.theglobalsite.ac.uk/justpeace/
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