RE: RE: oilism redux

2002-10-01 Thread Mark Jones
Ian wrote: Not that I advocate a technocracy; just that there are still a lot of very smart people on our planet who reject fatalism in all its forms. Fatalism has nothing whatever to do with the Global Hubbert eak. Accusing people of fatalism who accept the geological evidence

Militarization of foreign aid, Africa, Ivory Coast

2002-10-01 Thread Charles Jannuzi
If I had the energy I'd try to relate this batch of material to what's going on in Ivory Coast, but I don't really know much of anything that is going on there and I have no energy because of jet lag. A few things I've noticed: 1. Ivory Coast is the world's number one supplier of cocoa, right?

Re: Militarization of foreign aid, Africa, Ivory Coast

2002-10-01 Thread Charles Jannuzi
I should have said STEVEN Hatfill, not Mark, as the person some were fingering in the anthrax terror. ACRI is military and mercenary 'aid' specific to Africa but it is also, confusingly enough, an acronym for a cocoa research institute. This next link has stuff written up in more coherent

Re: Militarization of foreign aid, Africa, Ivory Coast

2002-10-01 Thread Charles Jannuzi
The google cache helped me to recover the article that had been at this link. Considering what bizforward.com is, you can see the issue that I'm talking about here is hardly a figment of leftwing paranoiac imagination. In fact, it's a first-rate employment and investment opportunity! Here is

Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Lisa Stolarski
I don't think your rant is mindless, Michael. I really do believe we are watching the rise of a kinder, sneakier fascism. It is just as racist and as violent as the old fascism, but more totalitarian and therefore more sublimated, couched in euphemisms about ending world hunger and such. Don't

Don't worry, we'll protect you from those Serbian gang rapists!

2002-10-01 Thread Charles Jannuzi
I know it's a bit old, but it's one of the better 'DynCorp' stories I know, since the rulings went against them. Note it would seem PimpCorp employees were directly involved. http://www.aviva.org/europe.htm UN Cover-Up of Trafficking Prostitution in Bosnia There is mounting evidence that

Re: Question to James Devine

2002-10-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: Re: Question to James Devine From: Hari Kumar Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine ...[W]hat is called globalisation is really another name for the dominant role of the United States. -- Henry Kissinger. QUESTION: James: Citation? alas, I have none.

Re: Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Carrol Cox
Lisa Stolarski wrote: I don't think your rant is mindless, Michael. I really do believe we are watching the rise of a kinder, sneakier fascism. It is just as racist and as violent as the old fascism, but more totalitarian and therefore more sublimated, couched in euphemisms about ending

Re: Re: Question to James Devine

2002-10-01 Thread ravi
Devine, James wrote: From: Hari Kumar Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine ...[W]hat is called globalisation is really another name for the dominant role of the United States. -- Henry Kissinger. QUESTION: James: Citation? alas, I have none. I'm pretty sure I

PK on dubya dip

2002-10-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: PK on dubya dip New York TIMES/October 1, 2002 Dealing With W By PAUL KRUGMAN TOKYO - I got obsessed with the Japanese economy after it was fashionable. Americans paid a lot of attention to Japan in the 1980's, when Japanese manufacturers were conquering the world. Remember when

FED HEAD SAYS BUMF TRUMPS BUBBLE

2002-10-01 Thread Tom Walker
My brother -- who is a real estate agent and was a high school buddy and water polo team mate of N.J. Republican senate candidate Doug Forrester -- says the most bubblicious part of the market is duplex to fourplex, which in Sacto are selling for as much as 300 times monthly net income. The

Re: Re: Re: Question to James Devine

2002-10-01 Thread Michael Perelman
It was also cited in: Gindin, Sam. 2002. Social Justice and Globalization: Are they Compatible? Monthly Review, 54: 2 (June): pp. 1-11. ravi wrote: Devine, James wrote: From: Hari Kumar Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine ...[W]hat is called globalisation is

RE: Re: RE: oilism redux

2002-10-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30752] Re: RE: oilism redux Ian wrote: Not to quibble, but given what we know of physics, ecology etc. there can be no such thing as an energy crisis in our niche of the cosmos. But there can be an oil crisis, can't there? Probably that day is not

Re: Question to James Devine

2002-10-01 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 8:11 AM -0700 10/1/02, Michael Perelman wrote: Gindin, Sam. 2002. Social Justice and Globalization: Are they Compatible? Monthly Review, 54: 2 (June): pp. 1-11. Available at http://www.monthlyreview.org/0602gindin.htm. -- Yoshie * Calendar of Events in Columbus:

RE: FED HEAD SAYS BUMF TRUMPS BUBBLE

2002-10-01 Thread Davies, Daniel
oh ye conservative Americans! 100 times monthly rent would be a rental yield of 12%, wouldn't it? Mug punters in London are still stepping up to the plate to buy investment properties at yields of 5-6%! dd As if refuting the bubble once and for all was not enough, the bumf goes on to put

Re: Re: Question to James Devine

2002-10-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: From: Hari Kumar Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevinehttp://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine ...[W]hat is called globalisation is really another name for the dominant role of the United States. -- Henry Kissinger. QUESTION: James: Citation? alas, I

Re: Re: Re: Question to James Devine

2002-10-01 Thread Carrol Cox
ravi wrote: Devine, James wrote: From: Hari Kumar Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine ...[W]hat is called globalisation is really another name for the dominant role of the United States. -- Henry Kissinger. QUESTION: James: Citation? At the Marxism

RE: The persistence of feudalism

2002-10-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30724] The persistence of feudalism A great article! But even if the current situation in the U.S. workplace is _legally_ feudal, it is not so in a socio-economic way: it's capitalist. A lot of what's described below is similar to what Marx described in his chapter on the

RE: RE: oilism redux

2002-10-01 Thread Mark Jones
Ian wrote: Not that I advocate a technocracy; just that there are still a lot of very smart people on our planet who reject fatalism in all its forms. Fatalism has nothing whatever to do with the Global Hubbert Peak. Accusing people of fatalism who accept the geological evidence

Re: RE: RE: oilism redux

2002-10-01 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fatalism has nothing whatever to do with the Global Hubbert eak. Accusing people of fatalism who accept the geological evidence about the extremely limited original natural endowment of hydrocarbons is like calling someone a

Re: FED HEAD SAYS BUMF TRUMPS BUBBLE

2002-10-01 Thread Michael Perelman
What did Cockburn's father say? Don't believe anything until it is officially denied. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

RE: oilism redux

2002-10-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: oilism redux Has someone estimated the date of the Global Hubbert Peak? when is it? how does it change if people make an effort to conserve on the use of petroleum? (Also, some people may want the Global Hubbert Peak defined.) Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: An exchange with Jonathan Alter (Newsweek editor)

2002-10-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30782] An exchange with Jonathan Alter (Newsweek editor) One of these days I am going to collect all my crank letters to the liberal muck-a-mucks of the world--and their replies--and try to get it published as Crank Letters from a Marxist Upstart.) with _The Lazlo Letters_

Re: Brazil's Debt Menaces U.S. Markets

2002-10-01 Thread F G
From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PEN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED], ALIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:30749] Brazil's Debt Menaces U.S. Markets Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:01:17 -0700 Brazil's Debt Menaces U.S. Markets It's important to keep in mind that although

Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Militarism- How manyDivisionsare there

2002-10-01 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/27/02 08:06PM well the direction of US foreign policy need not necessarily change. All I am suggesting is that within the context of an overall agreement to screw the workers/peasants fo the USA/the world - there may be cause to disagree on some matters within the ruling

Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Charles Jannuzi
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's leave aside what was an aberration even for fascism, the Holocaust. Let's also get rid of that word totalitarianism, the primary reason for its use being to equate Stalin with Hitler. (I'm neither defending nor attacking Stalin, I'm just

Re: Question to James Devine

2002-10-01 Thread Charles Jannuzi
...[W]hat is called globalisation is really another name for the dominant role of the United States. -- Henry Kissinger. QUESTION: James: Citation? At the Marxism 2000 conference, David Harvey devoted his plenary talk to supporting the proposition that Globalism is a

RE: Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30786] Re: bullying This is almost like self-enforced 'political correctness' from concerned parties of the left. Don't use that word 'fascist', they'll just make us eat our words. I think the problem is that the word fascism has been over-used. Back in the 1960s, it

Re: RE: Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Carrol Cox
Devine, James wrote: This is almost like self-enforced 'political correctness' from concerned parties of the left. Don't use that word 'fascist', they'll just make us eat our words. I think the problem is that the word fascism has been over-used. Back in the 1960s, it became a

Re: Re: RE: Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Carrol Cox wrote: But again, my central point is that incontinent use of the label fascist shows a naive faith in the goodness of simple capitalist democracy. If capitalist democracy were such a total sham, how come you're not in jail? Is it just because you're so marginal? Or is the thing

profitabililty down

2002-10-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: profitabililty down Note on the Profitability of Domestic Nonfinancial Corporations, 1960-2001 (by Daniel Larkins) The profitability of domestic nonfinancial corporations decreased in 2001, continuing a decline that began in 1998. The decrease was considerably more pronounced in

Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Charles Jannuzi
If capitalist democracy were such a total sham, how come you're not in jail? Is it just because you're so marginal? Or is the thing actually a little roommier than Germany in 1938? Doug Doesn't the US criminal justice system now encompass 2 million incarcerated and 1 million under

Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Tom Walker
Stark alternatives -- those who don't have naive faith must believe the thing is a total sham. One could base a fundamentalism on such a dichotomy. It may sound like a pedantic distinction, but capitalist democracy is not a synonym for bourgeois democracy. Capitalist democracy or democratic

walkout

2002-10-01 Thread Ian Murray
washingtonpost.com Longshore Union Walks Out of U.S. Mediation Talks Tuesday, October 1, 2002; 8:07 PM By Michael Kahn OAKLAND, Calif. (Reuters) - Efforts to start federal mediation for a U.S. port dispute that has stranded mountains of cargo on West Coast docks collapsed Tuesday after the

Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
Tom wrote: Stark alternatives -- those who don't have naive faith must believe the thing is a total sham. One could base a fundamentalism on such a dichotomy. This has always been my problem with many a discussions on this and most other lists. It is as if people, not just the ones on this

Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Charles Jannuzi
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ; or maybe, I am just too naive. Sabri, you simply have to acknowledge that a maillist post, usually a fairly hastily written first draft, and almost always rather short for the topics being covered, is not an article in a scholarly journal.

Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Carrol Cox wrote: But again, my central point is that incontinent use of the label fascist shows a naive faith in the goodness of simple capitalist democracy. If capitalist democracy were such a total sham, how come you're not in jail? Is it just because you're so marginal? Or is the thing

lumber and oranges

2002-10-01 Thread Ian Murray
Florida Oranges,Canada Lumber Disputes To Go To WTO Panel Tue Oct 1,12:28 PM ET GENEVA (AP)--The World Trade Organization ( news - web sites) agreed Tuesday to investigate claims that the U.S. is acting illegally by imposing special taxes or duties on imports of orange juice and lumber. Panels

Re: walkout

2002-10-01 Thread michael perelman
Here is a nice succint explanation from Chuck Grimes on LBO: Okay, the more realistic issue is that shipping clerks who run the computers for automated inventories and FOB manifests port-side, are at the moment, unionized under the ILWU. The PMA and shippers want to de-link these jobs from their

War Without End? Not In Our Name! (Oct. 4-31)

2002-10-01 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Friday, October 4 Women in Black's Vigil against War Time: 5:30-6 30 PM (Every Friday) Location: 15th Ave. High St, Columbus, OH Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, October 6 War Without End? Not In Our Name! Demonstrate against Bush's Endless War! Time: 5-6 PM Location: 15th Ave. and High St.,

Demonizing Iraq

2002-10-01 Thread Louis Proyect
Yesterday we received good news on Marxmail that the two major antiwar coalitions have moved toward coalescing their forces, the first step being endorsement of each other's demonstrations in Washington. The October 26th action is spearheaded by the IAC (International Action Center), which is

An exchange with Jonathan Alter (Newsweek editor)

2002-10-01 Thread Louis Proyect
(This was prompted by Alter's column at http://www.msnbc.com/news/814574.asp which states, among other things, that Divestment may be only a fall fad on college campuses, but it's political nitroglycerin. One of these days I am going to collect all my crank letters to the liberal muck-a-mucks

Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Charles Jannuzi
--- Tom Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carrol Cox wrote, To call the Bush administration fascist is capitalist apologetics. It is also bad American history. The Bush administration's ideological extremism is as American as cherry pie. Fascism was European and too damned intellectual.

Re: Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Carrol Cox
Tom Walker wrote: Stark alternatives -- those who don't have naive faith must believe the thing is a total sham. One could base a fundamentalism on such a dichotomy. It may sound like a pedantic distinction, but capitalist democracy is not a synonym for bourgeois democracy. And Doug

Re: Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Carrol Cox
Sabri Oncu wrote: Tom wrote: Stark alternatives -- those who don't have naive faith must believe the thing is a total sham. One could base a fundamentalism on such a dichotomy. This has always been my problem with many a discussions on this and most other lists. It is as if

the best we can do

2002-10-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: the best we can do Amerika v. 6.0 (The Best We Can Do) (Steve Earle) Look at ya Yeah, take a look in the mirror now tell me what you see Another satisfied customer in the front of the line for the American dream I remember when we was both out on the boulevard Talkin'

Re: RE: Re: bullying

2002-10-01 Thread Lisa Stolarski
Title: Re: [PEN-L:30788] RE: Re: bullying Well perhaps it might be helpful to define what I mean when I use the word 'fascist' since I brought it up. I mean a military industrial complex which increasingly seeks control of its own people as well as other peoples and nations. I mean a political