[PEN-L:7914] The situation in Norway (fwd)

1996-12-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Forwarded message: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 19 15:25:22 1996 From: D Shniad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: 199612192325.PAA16663@fraser Subject: The situation in Norway (fwd) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Lanfranco), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perelman) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:25:08

[PEN-L:7907] Norway's welfare state [fwd]

1996-12-19 Thread D Shniad
From: THE NEW YORK TIMES INTERNATIONAL, Friday December 13, 1996 Front Page (bottom) WELFARE'S SNUG COAT CUTS NORWEGIAN COLD By YOUSSEF M. IBRAHIM OSLO, Dec. 9 - Suffer from rheu- matism? The Norwegian state will send you to the Canary Islands for a month of

[PEN-L:7905] deja vu: a trip in the (over)time machine

1996-12-19 Thread Tom Walker
At a little past noon on October 7, 1978, Frank Schiff of the Committee for Economic Development addressed a conference on Work Time and Employment convened by the U.S. National Commission for Manpower Policy. Assembled at the Capitol Hill Quality Inn in Washington, D.C., the conference attendees

[PEN-L:7913] An insult to Burns?

1996-12-19 Thread Louis N Proyect
This is a public response to private mail sent to me. Ordinarily, I would agree with you, but what in the hell does Peter Burns think that he is trying to accomplish by asking me these sorts of questions. Do you think the average person is going to have the sort of grasp of pricing theory

[PEN-L:7916] Re: Che and Cuba

1996-12-19 Thread PBurns
So, in other words (or pedantically if you like), you still haven't got the foggiest? So much for "rigorous accounting and control methods". Oh well, let us know if you're any further ahead in 2 and a half years' time. Peter __ Reply Separator

[PEN-L:7906] [Fwd: Re: Article in the Guardian Weekly] (fwd)

1996-12-19 Thread D Shniad
Comments: Authenticated sender is [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sid Shniad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:19:19 + Subject: Re: Article in the Guardian Weekly Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Sid, First of all, I would like to thank you for your

[PEN-L:7920] Cuba-Algeria Firestorm

1996-12-19 Thread ZAHNISER STEVEN SCOTT
Dear PEN-Lers: I am saddened that Louis Proyect left PEN-L, because his comments regarding Cuba and Algeria were rather illuminating. I am not familiar with the Algerian case, but Proyect's contrasting of the Cuban and Algerian experiences made me think of various leftist movements in Latin

[PEN-L:7910] Re: Che and Cuba

1996-12-19 Thread Louis Proyect
Louis: This is one of the reasons I delete most PEN-L messages unread from my incoming mail. I resubscribed because I am always interested in what Sid Schniad, Doug Henwood, Patrick Bond and Jim Devine have to say. What I have zero interest in is the sort of abstract textbook questions that

[PEN-L:7902] Russia To Repay Tsarist Debt -Reply

1996-12-19 Thread Patrick Bond
This and the previous post on Southern Africa are interesting. Thanks. Finally, here in Jo'burg, there appears to be some movement from the NGO sector -- 3 000 organisations in a national coalition -- combined with earlier pronouncements by a few left trade unionists and small political parties,

[PEN-L:7917] Goodbye

1996-12-19 Thread Louis N Proyect
I'm out of here. It only took two days to remind me why I got off the first time. Burns et al wanting to have another debate about market socialism. Good grief. Talk about being in a rut. What's next? Another thread on the LTV? Jim Devine sending me private mail telling me to be collegial. I'm

[PEN-L:7908] Norway and oil

1996-12-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Oil seems to have brought nothing but tragedy to most people in countries where it was recently discovered. Norway is an exception. How much have the ordinary Nigerians or Mexicans benefitted from oil? The Wall Street Journal recently had an article decrying the squandering of oil resources in

[PEN-L:7903] suspending pen-l

1996-12-19 Thread Paul B. Cheney
I know it's impolite to write to this address for this, but can somebody tell me how to suspend my pen-l list over the holiday so that my mailbox doesn't jam up? Many thanks, Paul Cheney

Re: [PEN-L:7919] Re[2]: Re: Che and Cuba

1996-12-19 Thread Dennis Grammenos
On Thu, 19 Dec 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact of the matter, though, is that despite many great achievements, which I laud and support, the Cuban economy is in considerable trouble. All countries which have tried to institute a centrally planned economy have 1)

[PEN-L:7909] Che and Cuba

1996-12-19 Thread PBurns
Question for Louis Proyect: How do the central planners know which relative prices to set for all the goods and services in the economy? Peter

[PEN-L:7904] Re: suspending pen-l

1996-12-19 Thread Gerald Levy
I know it's impolite to write to this address for this, but can somebody tell me how to suspend my pen-l list over the holiday so that my mailbox doesn't jam up? Many thanks, Paul Cheney Since others may have the same question, I will respond to all: To suspend your mail send a message to

[PEN-L:7918] Re: An insult to Burns?

1996-12-19 Thread bill mitchell
Louie, still dishing up the "i'm just an ordinary guy who knows better than anyone what is radical and just goes about being one in an unassuming ordinary way" talk, i note. the list is called pen-l. progressive ECONOMISTS net list. got it. it is not unreasonable that economists might talk about

[PEN-L:7912] Toilet Seats

1996-12-19 Thread Jim Westrich
The front page of the (U.S.) Wall St. Journal today had a glowing report on how wonderful it is for U. S. companies when they can make money in export markets. Specifically, the article was about American Standard capturing 40% of the sit-down toilet seat market in China (where there is

[PEN-L:7919] Re[2]: Re: Che and Cuba

1996-12-19 Thread PBurns
Louis writes: Peter, your problem is that you are not really interested discussing real countries in the real world. It is much more convenient to discuss abstract models. Louis, a few points. I am not an economist, professional or otherwise. I am someone with an interest in

[PEN-L:7915] Re: Che and Cuba

1996-12-19 Thread Louis N Proyect
On Thu, 19 Dec 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, in other words (or pedantically if you like), you still haven't got the foggiest? So much for "rigorous accounting and control methods". Oh well, let us know if you're any further ahead in 2 and a half years' time. Peter