Jim Devine wrote:
2) is labor power produced?
that's a tougher one. it is reproduced for sure. but maybe even produced.
it's produced (via sex, family nurturance, etc.), but the question is
whether it's produced as a commodity.
I think it's a bit more complicated. Sex at most
Timework Web wrote:
However, labour-power can also be immediately consumed as
disposable time -- an end in itself -- independently of any process of
production.
Any comments? Questions? Criticisms?
Develop. It doesn't sound right at all to me, but anything I come up
with myself sounds
George's problem illustrates an argument I made on lbo a few
months ago denying discourse theory (i.e., denying the assumption
that all thought is language bound). I gave as an example then
the schoolroom syllogism
All men are mortal
Socrates is a man
Therefore Socrates is mortal
Suppose
Picked up from a campus maillist:
***The classically minded among us may have noted a new TV ad for
Microsoft's Internet Explorer e-mail program which uses the musical
theme of the "Confutatis Maledictis" from Mozart's Requiem." Where do
you want to go today?" is the cheery line on the screen.
Michael Perelman wrote:
I might repeat again that I do not regard pen-l as a publication bound
by the principles of free speech, but rather as a space in which a
certain type -- or will not go into the specifics here -- the exchange
can take place.
One of the difficulties with free speech
Jim Devine wrote:
Here's an interesting opinion from the March 5 LA TIMES:
U.S. Must Stop Being a KLA Pawn
Kosovo: An ongoing guerrilla campaign to provoke Serbian retaliation is
intended to draw NATO into renewed fighting.
By CHRISTOPHER LAYNE
[SNIP] the current
crisis illustrates:
Doug Henwood wrote:
Uh, Carrol, you can say that and no one will arrest you. Of course no
one will listen to you either, but still, doesn't non-arrest count
for something?
It means *two* things:
1. Non-arrest means a hell of a lot and we should fight for keeping it
and expanding it.
2. It
Jim Devine wrote:
At 09:58 AM 03/19/2000 -0500, you wrote:
"Free thinking" is the last way I'd describe Antioch students as a group. My
experience of them is that of a fairly uniform PC party line. Frankly I
thought that my students at OSU were more open minded. --jks
And Mr
Please read the entire subject line. It tells a tale. We (marxism, lbo,
pen-l, and
L-I) simply cannot keep a thread on women going. Humanitarian
Imperialism
is a vital subject, and I've had much to say about it in the past and
will in the
future. But I think the quick mutarion into something else
This might be of interest to leftists of various stripes.
Carrol
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A major new
Jim Devine wrote:
[snip]
Yoshie responds:
Practice precedes thought.
And thought precedes practice, as part of a dialectical process.
[Aside: This exchange between you and Yoshie seems to be making
progress, but I want to focus just on this exchange in isolation.]
Yes and no. I like
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In response to Michael's plea for more economics ...
There was an article in Todays Winnipeg Free Press by John Cunniff attributed to
Associated Press entitled "U.S. middle class fragile." He starts of by noting the
popular assumption that America's middle class
Jim Devine wrote:
Now, "bureaucracy." What is "bureaucracy"? Any organization with more
than a handful of members needs a structure of delegation representation
-- hence bureaucracy. How do you run modern industries distribution
systems without bureaucracy of any kind?
The question
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In a an article on the CNN connection with the U.S. Army's psychological
Operations division,
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Louis Proyect wrote:
But Henry is correct. There is an enormous propaganda offensive that is
attempting to demonize the Chinese government.
Damn it. All sorts of leftists are attacking the Anti-China crusade. Being
against the AFL-CIO on this is no more praiseworthy than being
against child
Doug Henwood wrote:
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labor-religion coalition? interfaith commitee? people of faith net work?
what are these to be exact? what have they got to with labor rights,
sweatshops and social justice issues?
I'm no fan of religion, and I'm guessing you're not either,
Doug, I would agree with you -- except neither of us is inside the
tent -- and I think probably a majority of those inside the tent would
say the Good is Good because God says it is. Maritain bluntly states
that trying to show that God is Good leads to atheism. And in *The
Class Struggle in the
"Max B. Sawicky" wrote:
I do know that criticism
of religion per se as a political practice is an
exercise in self-sabotage for progressives in the U.S.
I'm not clear on what you mean by "per se" here, or
how narrowing your "as a political practice" is.
As I've already posted, I regard
Doyle Saylor wrote:
MBS
More schizophrenia here, I think.
Doyle
The phrase is anti-disabled.
Yes. I believe some other poster tried to confuse issues by
claiming that when originally coined the word was intended
to mean "split mind," but the claim is pointless. There is no
significant
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THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY UNDER ATTACK:
The Chilling Use of disruption laws to stifle
Brad De Long wrote:
[SNIP]
Schizophrenic people would generally like not to be schizophrenic (you ask
The phrase "schizophrenic people" is itself objectionable. Just as tubercular
people or influenza people would be silly and/or (under some cultural
contexts) offensive. And since a number
Ken Hanly wrote:
This is a serious problem and nothing much is being done to
solve it. This
is a much greater risk, in my view, than GM foods but it
does not seem to be in the press very much.
From glancing at the post I'm prepared to agree with Ken that
the problem is serious -- but I'm
Ted Winslow wrote:
To begin with, the idea that ideas can be fully "reduced" in this way
is mistaken. It is, for instance,
I agree that Ted has chosen extremely important passages from Marx, but
I
don't have the slightest ideas what this post is about because (a) I
don't know
who said
Timework Web wrote:
We are in for interesting times.
I believe there's an old proverb that goes something like,
"Woe to those who live in interesting times."
Carrol
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Yilmaz Guney movies
Are these movies available on video with english sub-titles? Probably
too much to hope.
Carrol
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have always liked Branko Horvats definition of political economy
as "a fusion of economic and political theory into one single social
theory."
This implies that they were ever separate. The allocation of resources
is obviously the most political of acts, and the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You wrote:
Who is You?
Carrol
The ongoing critique in scholastic circles of "euro-centrism"
more and more appears as a member of that large family of
ideological persuasions generally called "post-modernism,"
defined here as a purely academic compensation for the
material defeats the movements of the '60s Karl and
Doug Henwood wrote:
Rod Hay wrote:
Mat. How do you identify eurocentrism? In my experience, in most cases,
all it indicates is that the person throwing the epithet, doesn't like
what is being said but can't articulate a rational argument against it.
Could you give a more specific
"Max B. Sawicky" wrote:
. . . Protesters' Headquarters Raided, Shut Down
Incredible.
What's incredible about it? It seems quite ordinary to me --
but I suppose it depends on one's assumptions about
capitalist democracy.
Carrol
Rod Hay wrote:
True, Charles, but surely the important thing for a Marxist is a revolution that
leads to socialism.
NO! This is to pretend that we access to a crystal ball. The important
thing for a Marxist is revolution aimed at socialism. Whether it succeeds
in maintaing itself to fit
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Jim Devine wrote:
the author, Scott Shuger, was simply asking questions about these issues. I
was hoping for answers to these questions rather than name-calling based on
a partial reading.
The Slate report must have been based on the following article, which
Doug fwd to lbo.
New
Dennis R Redmond wrote:
[Nothing Intelligible]
Dennis, for someone who wants us to believe that you have
successfully construed Adorno, you certainly have your
troubles with a fairly simple and straightforward post.
I haven't decided yet my own response to Platkin O'Connell
but your
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The letter certainly is of great interest, but I want to focus
on just one sentence in it.
Jim Devine wrote:
from a letter to a relative, which might interest pen-l:
I agree[snip] The campaign by business and government to restore
profitability
both overall and for individual companies
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Good Morning Viet Nam! Giaia Phong! Viva la Republica Socialista! Viva
Tio Ho!
I'd like to respond to
Another manifestation of the material rather than ideological
content of "zero tolerance." It means mostly the systematic
indoctrination, through police action, of the perception that
blacks are "different" and inferior. It terrorizes blacks and
makes whites feel justified in their racism. Zero
Michael, I'd be interested in your experiences with voice
recognition software. How well it works might eventually make
a big change in education by breaking the illusion that "skill
in writing" equals "general intelligence." I'm really confident
that a huge amount of what intellectuals regard as
Re balance of payments etc. In the '60s and '70s, there
would always be a distinction made between balance of
trade (which was positive for U.S.) and balance of payments
(which was negative). Is that distinction no longer of
any importance? And was it ever?
Carrol
Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
As one of the most boring books ever written, one which 99% of
Marxist do not have the patience or even temper to read, should we
not but sympathize with poor Darwin's rejection of this offer?
I read *Capital* (Vol.I) several years before I became involved in
Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
It was just Vol. II which he offered to Darwin. Which other book
would you say is a literary masterpiece?
Here we are talking about a book which was never written (Vol. II).
Had it gotten to the point where the dedication had been relevant,
it would presumably have
Louis Proyect wrote:
Students are organizing against sweatshop conditions. If Marxists think
that they are some kind of evolutionary step upward from 'rural idiocy' and
patriarchy, then we will be ignored by these students.
Take another look. THat's what I said. That is, from the
Jim Devine wrote:
President Eisenhower, it is said, pretended to be inarticulate in order to
have the "common touch" so necessary to success in US politics. He was, the
same stories say, a closet intellectual.
I remember one anecdote. They were planning to issue a press release
on some
The causes of the Slave Drivers' Rebellion are complicated, *but*
it is doubtful that all the other reasons would have led to actual war
were it not for the belief of the Southern Slaveocrats that slavery was
in danger. The Articles of Confederation have several clauses aimed
at guaranteeing the
Doug Henwood wrote:
Would Cuba have survived until 1989 without Soviet subsidies?
Who knows? This is one of those questions which, Jim Devine has
just pointed out on another thread, belongs to the genre of science
fiction. One can spin such questions out to infinity. Would Cuba
have grown
Michael Hoover wrote:
What was the exact publication year of Lenin's Imperialism?
Mine Doyran
1916
Michael Hoover
That's what I thought, but the copy of Vol. 22 before me here
says *written* 1916, published as pamphlet mid-1917. And
so says the reproduced title page.
Carrol
Louis Proyect wrote:
This seems correct -- but it also seems to indicate the irrelevance or
even obscurantist nature of long arguments about whether some other
people are/were happier in Situation A rather than Situation B.
Carrol
You don't seem to get it. This is not about a "Golden
Michael Perelman wrote:
Carrol, we have no need to get nasty here.
Carrol Cox wrote:
Lou, this is either pure academic bullshit or it is the kind of red-baiting I
have been fighting against over on lbo.
Lou and I always forgive each other.
Carrol
Doug Henwood wrote:
So is the one true
"progressive" position on this to support PNTR/WTO entry, along with
the Fortune 500? Seems to me this is an extremely complicated issue,
much too complicated for a simple yes/no answer.
It isn't a complicated an issue because for "true
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This was one of the most illuminating of the contributions
to lbo on the questions of sex and gender, "social construction"
and biology.
Carrol
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From: "Raphael C. Allen"
I agree that labels are the question. But the label "labels" is
not the question either. That is, labelling Piercy "non-marxist"
does not prove her wrong. Equally, labelling Mine a labeller
does not prove her wrong. For example, Mine writes, "The big
problem with her argument is that she assumes
of Biological Fact
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Doug Henwood wrote:
Biology
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"Only sound common sense, respec
:-)
Can't reds have fun?
Carrol
Doug Henwood wrote:
Carrol Cox wrote:
So far the score is Justin -1 + 0. Mine's score is -1 + 1. She
wins, zero to minus 1.
Wow. That's just so clarifying. I've learned so much on PEN-L the
last few days.
Doug
Brad De Long wrote:
It would be "essentialist" to reduce men to that characteristic...
It is also "essentialist" to speak of "men" as a category that a
single thought can "reduce"...
It is also "essentialist" to speak of "essentialism" as a
single intellectual move that
"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:
I think that
it is worth keeping in mind that his own daughter and son-in-
law were gunned down at le mur des Communards in the Pere
Lachaise cemetary at the end of that sad episode,
As I recall, they had a hairy time of it, but they lived to commit
Michael Perelman wrote:
Tussy committed suicide. The daughter in Paris, Laura, died early of
natural causes, I believe.
Eleanor (Tussy) committed suicide in London in 1898. Laura married
Paul Lafargue. She and her husband both committed suicide sometime
after 1910. I have (long ago) read a
Doug Henwood wrote:
Sam Pawlett wrote:
Well, it is necessary that the male penetrate the female or the species
will fail to reproduce itself.
...except for the occasional turkey-baster.
Why not say "it is necessary for the female to engulf the male sperm . . ."?
How do you determine
Jim Devine wrote:
Draper follows a somewhat controversial position, since he treats Marx and
Engels totally as a team, with no significant disagreements. For him,
"Marx" is sometimes used as short-hand for Marx-and-Engels, though in
citations he is always clear about which said what.
I've only browsed through this and have no strong
opinion on some of its included arguments. But it
seems worth considering.
Carrol
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It is against this complex backdrop of a country struggling for
development under a political system, which, while not democratic
along Western lines, is nevertheless legitimate, and which realizes
that its continuing legitimacy depends on its ability to deliver
economic growth that one
Rod Hay wrote:
Perhaps Marx was utopian. But we will have to wait until we have a socialists
society, in order to find out. The Soviet Union called itself socialist but it
wasn't.
This I think is utopian. Socialism is a movement, not a platonic form against
which you can measure any state
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What do you have against cars with big fins? --jks
Aside from the fact that they were rather ugly, they were
also rather mean if one backed into you. If I remeber
correctly, there was a handful of news items on the
grisly effects of that.
Secondary effect: they
Doug Henwood wrote:
Wait a minute. A model that failed and which is now held in almost
universally low regard
I've never praised or dispraised any position on the grounds that
it was or was not "marxist." I'll break that habit now. The use of
the concept of "model" in reference to social
Doug Henwood wrote:
[snip] Ernest Mandel criticized in this passage
from Late Capitalism:
[snip] (the actual extension of cultural needs, to the extent
to which they are not trivialized or deprived of their human content
by capitalist commercialization).
This whole passage from Mandel
Sam Pawlett wrote:
I think I would say this thread is dead here, but I have to reply to
false accusations. Mention the word "penetrate" and you get labelled an
August Strindberg!
Sam, look it. You fucked up, and you fucked up royally. Admit it,
and go on from there.
The question you must
Michael Perelman wrote:
The question should not be, would you rather be a poor peasant or a well-to-do
urban inhabitant. It would be just a silly to ask whether he would rather be a
wealthy aristocrat in the countryside or homeless person in the big city.
I try to play with the idea of
Rod Hay wrote:
Saturday May 13 1:02 AM ET
Study Questions 'Sex Reassignment'
By SETH HETTENA, Associated Press Writer
BALTIMORE (AP) - The practice of surgically ``reassigning'' boys born
without penises is
being called into question by a new study that suggests gender identity
[Sorry -- I clicked the send instead of the quote button on the
preceding empty post.]
Louis Proyect wrote:
Either that or people actually *liked* having their teeth fall out...
Brad DeLong
I don't think the discussion is about dental hygeine. It is about the right
of a Vietnamese in the
There is a huge jumble of sense and nonsense in this thread on the
masons.
One of the jumbles is between the actual history of the masons, which
has little or nothing to do with mysticism, ancient egypt, alexander the
great and a great deal to do with guild economics in a very vulgar sense
in
Tom Walker wrote:
Any one remember ex-FBI agent Dan Smoot and his John
Birch Society rantings about the "Invisible Government" run by the Council
on Foreign Relations? How does one totally dismiss such a "right-wing
conspiracy theorist" and then seriously entertain, say, Noam Chomsky,
Sam Pawlett wrote:
An interesting example is Monika Stevenson's
book _Kiss The Boys Goodbye_. She says there were MIA/POW's in Vietnam but the
CIA left them there
This is an interesting case to illustrate how destructive concpiracy
theories are of intelligent left analysis. I suggest you
Jim Devine wrote:
I think it's okay to use the phrase "civil society." Marx used it (it's a
translation of "burgerlicte gesellschaft" of course he spelled it
correctly). After all, and he was right once and awhile.
But it's important to be extremely clear to be clear what we mean by it.
digloria[kelley]@mindspring.com wrote:
yeah but catherine y'all get the kewler status of having dossiers kept on
you about your activities trying to smuggle irony across the borders when
you visit the states.
I must confess that despite many years study of Irony I have never quite been
able
Footnote on Plato
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carrol in response to chuckster:
Not a bad characterization. I'm woozy from the flu right now, but
I intend to stumble some more. I want to complicate irony enough
so that it can't be used as a slogan.
Leaving aside dramatic irony, which does
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"You know what? As soon as David Letterman hit the airwaves, it was all
over for irony."
Two questions:
What in the world does this Mean, and can it be said without
use of the word irony?
If the word irony is necessary, what in the world is irony?
Carrol
I
Louis Proyect wrote:
Once imperialism is determined to secure a
victory against its enemy of the month, there is nothing that can stop it
except the will of the "enemy" to fight back and our own will to stop the
aggression. These events are the most significant of a generation.
As I said
Michael Perelman wrote:
Of course not. The problem is that the U.S. policy is purely opportunistic.
Why do we embargo Cuba and appeal to constructive engagement in racist South
Africa?
Why the assumption that U.S. crimes come from opportunism or
bad strategy or stupidity? I know you don't
Jim Devine wrote:
The WSJ's new poll shows that now 64 percent of Americans
approve of the air campaign, with 27 percent opposed.
In terms of the potential effectiveness of popular resistance this
is a figure to make one optimistic. It would cause pessimism only
in a mind inextricably sunk in
.
Carrol Cox
==
I have been subscribing to the *Multinational Monitor* for many years,
and when a year ago I tried to cut down drastically on files of old
magazines, found myself wanting to keep *all* the *Monitors*, and
there were so few worthless pages in each that it was not worth while
Tom Walker wrote:
"More telling, translating the mean placebo response effect size of 1.16 in
a similar way reveals that 88% of patients who received only placebos
experienced improvement (12% stayed the same or got worse). This is a
remarkably high percentage and is the basis for Kirsch
It's funny how debates over whether money buys happiness always
focus on whether *more money* will "buy happiness" for those
already possessed of more than sufficient money.
Does anyone ever ask will money buy happiness for the mother whose
child will die from its own poison unless provided with
Tom Walker wrote:
The 'beneficial' effects of Prozac have been shown in controlled trials to
be no better than those of a placebo with side effects.
Several points:
1) The research on clinical depression and manic depression is and
always has been in a state of confusion. Postive
Louis Proyect wrote:
Unless a mighty protest is launched against
this savage attack on innocent people, there is little doubt that the Nato
forces will apply a scorched earth policy in Yugoslavia like Franco did in
Spain or Nixon in Indochina.
Such a development has been implicit in the
The trouble with all proofs of the existence of god is that they do
not begin from the necessary premise of all human thought, the
non-existence of god. This is perhaps easier to grasp for anyone
for whom atheism is a birthright rather than an achievement, since
it is always a temptation to see
Sam Pawlett wrote:
Doesn't the word "covert" imply that these actions are or are supposed
to be secret? Why not call them overt operations?
Sam, are you serious in this question or are you just wisecracking? If
you are serious, then you need to study politics more thoroughly. I'll
give
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Doug Henwood wrote:
Why is it that left discourse requires so many rehearsals of the
obvious? That's what I've found exasperating about so many of the
recent "learning experiences" I've had on PEN-L. I haven't quoted
Michael Kinsley's remark about how rightists are always looking for
Doug Henwood wrote:
Carrol Cox wrote:
I think you should
seriously consider that there may in fact be good reasons for leftists
to be a bit more concerned about "heretics" than are rightists (if that
is indeed the case).
I'm not talking about the need to ferret out spies
A thread currently running on the sixties-l list produced a post that
offers an interesting perspective on this list's debate on efficiency,
etc.
Carrol
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Subject: Re: [sixties-l] Re: Horowitz corporations
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 01:27:20 -0700
From: Jeffrey
S Pawlett wrote:
All arguments are subject to counter-arguments. One person's modus tollens is
another persons modus podens. One person's transcendental argument is another's
petitio principii.
As a mere empirical observation that in every situation there is bound
to be one asshole, this
Louis Proyect wrote:
Carrol Cox took exception to my "compliment" Doug Henwood:
"I appreciate his excellent efforts through LBO at pressuring the US
government
and business interests into fair play."
Carrol, I was being patronizing and dismissive. Don't you think I kn
Louis Proyect wrote:
"I appreciate his excellent efforts through LBO at pressuring the US government
and business interests into fair play."
It will be several days or more before I can quite wrap my mind around
this whole new spat between Doug and Lou and post on the crucial
issues it opens --
If one wants to get at class the proper term in English would be "petty
producer." ("Petty" means "small" in English too, with the context
differentiating its meand as small from its meaning as "small-minded.")
The advantage of "petty producer" is that it puts the burden of proof
on those who
Lou,
I'm just recovering from a migraine and can't read this too carefully,
but
it seems to me that you are suggesting that the readers of a book review
should already have read the book. This seems bizarre. You also seem
to think that only books the editor of a journal has read should be
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