Patrick Bond wrote:
That's the spirit, comrade. Now, will you invite Nnimmo or Yvonne on
your radio show to talk about how they're in the process of Seattling
Copenhagen?
Ah, someone else beat you to it:
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/11/ecuadorian_activist_heads_to_cop15_with
“Keep
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Patrick Bond pb...@mail.ngo.za wrote:
Patrick Bond wrote:
That's the spirit, comrade. Now, will you invite Nnimmo or Yvonne on your
radio show to talk about how they're in the process of Seattling Copenhagen?
Ah, someone else beat you to it:
Gar Lipow wrote:
.. Amy Goodman also had Larry Lohmann in a debate with Frank Ackerman
I know, how inappropriate! Why not some bankster from Goldman Sachs or
IETA? (They were probably too scared.) Frank was the worst possible
choice because instead of denying the myriad problems, he just
On Dec 15, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Patrick Bond wrote:
you need to make up for your ambivalence in that Nation piece on
carbon trading a few years back
I don't know what you're talking about here. I said the whole ct
think was fraught with problems. There was nothing ambivalent about it.
Doug
Doug Henwood wrote:
I don't know what you're talking about here. I said the whole ct
think was fraught with problems. There was nothing ambivalent about it.
Yes you're right, I'm sorry. Your crit of carbon trading at this URL is
terrific, and I wish Frank, Peter Dorman, James Boyce and now
To have a go at me, if you like, a little riff I did on this topic was
aired an hour ago on KPFA, and I think you can pick it up here:
http://againstthegrain.org/program/254/id/511515/tues-12-15-09-copenhagen
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Doug Henwood wrote:
Here in the USA, where I live, and which is the world's biggest
producer of greenhouse gasses and has the power to block actions
abroad, there's barely a movement at all. And things have only gotten
worse in the last few months. It's easy to fall into despair about it.
Oh
On Dec 15, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Patrick Bond wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
Here in the USA, where I live, and which is the world's biggest
producer of greenhouse gasses and has the power to block actions
abroad, there's barely a movement at all. And things have only
gotten worse in the last
Doug Henwood wrote:
Really, Patrick. These are a few people making dramatic gestures with
minimal impact. I worry that your accounts of activism around the
world are based on equally thin material.
You know, a few people had the same reaction in mid-1999 when I
excitedly reported how ACTUP
Gar Lipow wrote:
.. Amy Goodman also had Larry Lohmann in a debate with Frank Ackerman
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/15/cap_trade_a_critical_look_at
Cap Trade: A Critical Look at Carbon Trading
Will the expansion of carbon emissions trading help stop global warming
or just create a
On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Patrick Bond wrote:
Will the expansion of carbon emissions trading help stop global
warming or just create a new market for Wall Street to make
billions? We air excerpts of Annie Leonard’s The Story of Cap and
Trade and speak with Larry Lohmann and Frank
I am waiting for Carrol to (correctly) remind us that it will require mass
organizing to move Congress. We would get more traction if we could
convince people that global warming causes impotence.
I would have thought that Bush could have promoted mass organizing, but all
we got was Obama.
Patrick Bond wrote:
(117 organisations signing on to the most militant statement of its
sort I've yet seen - formidable! A central organiser is Nnimmo Bassey
nni...@eraction.org)
Communiqué issued at the end of the
Second National Consultation on the Environment held in Port Harcourt,
Rivers
On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Patrick Bond wrote:
I hadn't realised (just saw this in George Monbiot's column), but in
Nature the estimate of the remaining oil we need to leave in the
soil (and coal in the hole and tar sand in the land) is 40%:
Hmm, that's surprisingly less than I would
That's the spirit, comrade. Now, will you invite Nnimmo or Yvonne on
your radio show to talk about how they're in the process of Seattling
Copenhagen? It's going well there, with a successful dress rehearsal today.
Cheerio,
Patrick
Doug Henwood wrote:
On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Patrick
(117 organisations signing on to the most militant statement of its sort
I've yet seen - formidable! A central organiser is Nnimmo Bassey
nni...@eraction.org)
Communiqué issued at the end of the
Second National Consultation on the Environment held in Port Harcourt,
Rivers State,
25 - 26
Doug Henwood wrote:
Time magazine
Jealous? :-)
... I'd thought your mailer was configured to respond to you rather
than PEN-L, so I re-sent to the list manually. I was wrong, and I'm
sorry. At least neither of us was confessing to a plushie fetish.
No worries, mate, no harm done.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Doug Henwood dhenw...@panix.com wrote:
I just wrote:
I bet if you asked people in oil-producing countries to choose between:
A) Extracting the oil as cleanly as possible and using the proceeds to
build schools and clinics and provide electricity, or
B)
On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:14 PM, raghu wrote:
I don't have the proof to your hypothetical question, but I submit to
you that everywhere oil is being extracted, schools and clinics *are*
being built even today with oil money. It is true that the oil
companies are taking much more money away than
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