Re: [PEN-L] Art as Commodity

, along with the behavior of the two boys. If I am right in my interpretation, the film is profoundly right wing. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] China's Socialist Path (Hart-Landsberg and Paul Burkett)

the Zhou faction, etc. Both groups were trying to control the economy and the society from above. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] elections [was: China's Socialist Path]

in it. But now isn't it about time to find a better topic than the imperialist elections? Carrol -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] China's Socialist Path

to be legitimized. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] fertilizer [was: Peak food]

crops, letting some land lay fallow, and/or growing crops together that help each other. soula avramidis wrote: isn't the rising cost of energy content of modern agriculture specifically rising oil prices partly responsible for the rise in food prices? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e

Re: [PEN-L] fertilizer [was: Peak food]

at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901 michaelperelman.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Devine Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:47 AM To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Subject: [PEN-L] fertilizer

Re: [PEN-L] fertilizer [was: Peak food]

the barren hillsides, which are much more interesting than the fertile plains. When did you get the job at the Heritage Foundation, Michael? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Krugman: a peak oil believer?

for those cultists reported on by HARPER'S magazine a year or so ago). It encourages people to stop using oil and thus delays global warming. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Peak food

, raising money wages does not raise real wages. Alternatively, for a constant degree of monopoly (and mark-up) and with constant unit costs of raw materials, the equation says that real wages will rise with average labor productivity. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your

Re: [PEN-L] Subprime jumps the shark

canceled. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Max B. Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if Shemano did the 'Subprime' power point thing, but it's all over the Internet and Wall Street now. http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/02/how-subprime-re.html#comments -- Jim Devine / Segui il

Re: [PEN-L] A Subprime Military

that you were going over to Henwood's dark side. Gene On Feb 18, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Jim Devine wrote: no-one can predict the future. On Feb 17, 2008 5:22 PM, Eugene Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a recession is happening, ??? If? If? Gene Coyle -- Jim Devine

Re: [PEN-L] A Subprime Military

no-one can predict the future. On Feb 17, 2008 5:22 PM, Eugene Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a recession is happening, ??? If? If? Gene Coyle -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Peak food

. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Economists Against Family Values?

. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901 michaelperelman.wordpress.com -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing

Re: [PEN-L] A Subprime Military

. It's possible that the Fed could abandon all fears of inflation and do what they did in 2001 and after. It's quite possible that we could have an even-more unequally-distributed prosperity based on widespread debt-peonage. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way

Re: [PEN-L] Peak food

The Blessed Max wrote: If prices rise, doesn't it put some of the marginal corn producers back in the game? I'm thinking about Mexico. it's possible that it could intensify the incentive for the rich to steal the poor's land. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your

Re: [PEN-L] A Subprime Military

know that they don't know and those that don't. Rudy Sandwichman wrote: On 2/18/08, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no-one can predict the future. I thought it was, it's tough to make predictions -- especially about the future, or something like that. -- Sandwichman

Re: [PEN-L] China, Speilberg, and the Olympics: The real story

to impose collective punishment on Gaza.) -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] China, Speilberg, and the Olympics: The real story

name.) On Feb 17, 2008 11:26 AM, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 17, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Jim Devine wrote: But people like SS, who know nothing about the world, shouldn't get involved in foreign policy issues. Who should then? Experts? What kind of philosophy

Re: [PEN-L] Here comes the big one

://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/17/here-comes-the-big-one/#more-6658 -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] subprime primer

/ -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing

Re: [PEN-L] A Subprime Military

/070185.html Iraq has been hurting the US military, which is good news, but unfortunately subprime recruits are renewable resources, given the way the US class system is set up to fail children at education. -- Yoshie -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way

[PEN-L] the next steroids?

. So it is cutting you off. If you could will yourself to run as fast and as long as you could, some people would run until they keeled over and died. Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company a couch potato, Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le

Re: [PEN-L] On the third hand [was: Let.s Go Hillary]

Carrol Cox wrote: The term conspiracy should be reserved (for political clarity) for those activities which cannot work except as complete secrecy is involved. that's an excellent clarification of the meaning of that word. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own

Re: [PEN-L] Conspiracies

were not going against what's good for the US as perceived at the time in their circles and so were not pushed to reveal their operations. [*] I heard a minor CA DP official hint broadly that Wellstone had been bumped off by the GOPsters. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go

[PEN-L] the people speak: Chavez threat

like Chavez should never underestimate the little guy—in this case, Exxon Mobil. Pedro Barajas, Hotel Clerk I'm surprised by how relatively reasonable this threat is. Adam Metz, Carpet Installer Exxon Mobil or Hugo Chavez. Please don't make me choose sides here. [from the ONION] -- Jim Devine

Re: [PEN-L] Conspiracies

of innocent (foreign) citizens? Shane Mage -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] David Brooks predicts a centrist Democratic president whoever wins

be able to do anything good. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] On the third hand [was: Let.s Go Hillary]

information as possible about the world it is manipulating (the strings it is pulling) and the impact of its machinations on the path of history. It must also have as complete information as possible about what the lackeys, underlings, etc. are doing, so that they can be punished if they break ranks. -- Jim

Re: [PEN-L] On the third hand [was: Let.s Go Hillary]

are not too radical. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] Euros accepted at NY stores

back to accepting pelts. Long story short, I got a lot of pelts I need to unload. Scott Hernandez, Street Cleaner If you're gouging people on the price of a bottle of water, it just seems more polite to do it in their own currency. [from the ONION] -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

. On the other hand, if Clinton is elected, she'll probably turn out to be as bad as Obama would be. But it would be a sign that at least some of the struggle against sexism has been successful. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl

[PEN-L] On the third hand [was: Let.s Go Hillary]

movement against staying in. Even Obama would pull out of Iraq if there were a mass movement against staying in. Voting is a futile act. We have to find those acts that aren't futile. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing

Re: [PEN-L] apologia

an honest argument. the _prices_ we pay! we also have to put up with columns by David Brooks and (ugh) William Kristol. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] apologia

. Michael Cox is the senior vice president and chief economist and Richard Alm is the senior economics writer at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas. Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

of the will, pessimism of the intellect? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] it's the water [was: apologia]

found that tap water is often cleaner than bottled water? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] it's the water [was: apologia]

??). Suddenly there was a surge in the demand for bottled water, one that's never been reversed (even though the tap water is fine). This is one of these cases where a conspiracy theory may apply. If nothing else, the bottled water peddlers milked a real problem to the max (as it were). -- Jim Devine

Re: [PEN-L] apologia

do we really grow rice in California? (I may have reported this, but I'm not convinced it's true.) Doyle Saylor wrote: Why grow rice in California? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

Gramsci.) _Any_ kind of voting involves optimism of the will, since one person's vote does not matter at all. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] the role of government

or are as accountable. Also, some lawmakers are questioning whether using contractors for interrogations is even legal since, according to policy, inherently governmental activities must be performed by government employees. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let

[PEN-L] PK on the R

tuned. Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] A comment on No Country for Old Men

a meaningful personal peace with them? Apparently very little. does every film have to be a message film? the film does say something about the decadence of Southwestern US society. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

and with whom you have to negotiate nuclear weapons treaties. and Nixon was an ally of J. Edgar Hoover, who was busy denying freedom of political association to the CP. Yes, Hoover shuffled off to that big dress shop in the sky that year, but his truth went marching on... -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

that neither the DP nor the GOP candidate would step on the toes of big business, but that the CP would step on its neck. I think that was in 1972, when the CP ran its own independent campaign, but most of its members supported McGovern and the USSR, its patron, supported Nixon. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo

[PEN-L] Bob Scheer on Obamillary

. A Progressive Journal of News and Opinion. Editor, Robert Scheer. Publisher, Zuade Kaufman. Copyright (c) 2007 Truthdig, L.L.C. All rights reserved. Web site development by Hop Studios | Hosted by NEXCESS.NET -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

I'm tired of this defensiveness. On Feb 7, 2008 1:16 PM, Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Devine Charles: Did you do a poll of the members or did you get this info from the FBI ? Most party members are not public because there is not freedom of political association

[PEN-L] bangs per buck

. But that's chump change compared with Rep. Ron Paul, who has lined up five delegates at a cost of about $4 million each. on another topic, did Prez Bush fulfill his promise to rebuild Trent Lott's house after Katrina? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let

[PEN-L] stock returns [was: Ignore the Obituaries, U.S. Reign Will Endure]

are more like bonds, at least for the blue chip stocks. Of course, it was only given the political economy of Monopoly Capital/New Industrial State, which soon ended. (Some argue that monopoly capital persists, but it's very different from the BS version.) -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia

Re: [PEN-L] the Black Swan

of financiers needs one too. Instead of a bunch of T-bills, the US monetary insurance is provided by the Fed (and backed by the power of the state). -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

Michael Perelman wrote: I think Hillary Clinton will be an excellent candidate. ... More than anyone else, she has the potential of finally proving the emptiness of the Democratic Party to the general public. she's better than Mike Dukakis for this purpose? hard to believe. -- Jim Devine

Re: [PEN-L] stock returns [was: Ignore the Obituaries, U.S. Reign Will Endure]

Age or the 1920s. It differs from the Keynesian liberal or (soft) social democratic capitalism of the 1950s and 1960s, during which we had strong labor (especially in Western Europe). -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

, Kerry, Gore. The real primaries filter out anyone like Edwards, who followed a populist path, and discourage people like Gore from going down that path. This undermines the candidate's charm. If Gore had gone with his initial populist leanings, he would have been much more interesting. -- Jim Devine

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

the shortcomings of true populism. (Much of what Edwards said fits in either or both categories.) But amazingly, the real primaries run by the donors filters theses populisms out too. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] stock returns [was: Ignore the Obituaries, U.S. Reign Will Endure]

capitalism is the same in effect. in terms of auto, the oligopolization of the product market and the domination by GM meant that if the UAW raised wages, the bosses could more easily raise prices, which made them (the bosses) more amenable to wage increases. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e

[PEN-L] religion in the news!

a wide swath of thunderstorms packing tornadoes, high winds and hail swept through the South. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/06/us/06cnd-storm.html?8auemc=au comment: why does God hate the South? Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk

Re: [PEN-L] Let.s Go Hillary

occurred in the '30s. yes, the key problem with Edwards is that populist politics is totally disorganized and decentralized, so that his program was largely (or almost completely) coming from above. Populism from above! Now there's a contradiction in terms. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e

Re: [PEN-L] stock returns [was: Ignore the Obituaries, U.S. Reign Will Endure]

. I want my students to be able to understand what other econ. profs. are talking about. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] bad omens

US full-blown recession appeared; money center banks barely avoided the abyss. • Before yesterday, the last NYC ticker-tape parade was 2000 (Yankees); the Great US Stock Bubble burst. • The NY Giants won their third Super Bowl in 2008 and received a ticker-tape parade; head to the caves! -- Jim

Re: [PEN-L] [lbo-talk] I hope you all vote(d) for Obama

-- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] it's good news week!

a cheeseburger in a can. Meanwhile, British scientists announced that it would soon be possible to convert female bone mar-row into viable sperm cells, hastening the obsolescence of men. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl

Re: [PEN-L] I hope you all vote(d) for Obama

) versus McCain (or Romney or Huckabee) will be a bit like the 1964 LBJ/Goldwater election. However, remember what the victorious LBJ did... -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] [lbo-talk] I hope you all vote(d) for Obama

me: in any event, to have any president do anything decent or progressive, we need a mass movement to keep him or her honest. Doyle: How? that's the $64 billion question! What _is_ to be done? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk

Re: [PEN-L] I hope you all vote(d) for Obama

where's the goat? g.a.s. wrote: Heading for the primary: http://www.gribbenstockyards.com.au/images/PS3.jpg Happy voting! -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] the Black Swan

as the lowest of the low. In the Q A he was offered an opportunity to disparage other professions, such as priests and bishops, but he declined, saving his opprobrium for economits. Gene Coyle -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk

Re: [PEN-L] I hope you all vote(d) for Obama

. But it seems less likely that a DP Prez will invade Iran. if/when a DP candidate is elected President, he or she will likely present us with rationalized GW Bushism, just as GHW Bush and Bill Clinton rationalized Reaganism, sanding off the rough edges. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir

Re: [PEN-L] I hope you all vote(d) for Obama

American? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] I hope you all vote(d) for Obama

.) The multilateralists don't seem to want to bomb/attack Iran. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] I hope you all vote(d) for Obama

On Tuesday 05 February 2008 15:36:44 Jim Devine wrote: The multilateralists don't seem to want to bomb/attack Iran. Michael Smith wrote: But the Israel lobby does, and the Israel lobby has even more clout with the Dems than it has with the Reeps. the way I read the weather suggests

Re: [PEN-L] the Black Swan

in reality. He emphasizes the role of outliers, which he sees as normal but totally unpredictable. (and as having big effects, such as tanking Long-Term Capital Management.) -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Leo Panitch: do stimulus packages work?

this is right on target. On Jan 28, 2008 6:49 AM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.zcommunications.org/zvideo/2484 -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] the Black Swan

the impact of the fall of LTCM would have been bigger if the Fed hadn't organized a bail-out. On Feb 5, 2008 5:11 PM, Shane Mage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Jim Devine wrote: Taleb isn't against the bell curve as much as the assumption that it's an accurate

Re: [PEN-L] I hope you all vote(d) for Obama

On Feb 5, 2008 5:39 PM, Julio Huato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Perelman for president. Now THERE'S an idea!! all it needs is more exclamation points!! -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Who was Jesse James?

leading spokesmen for racial equality. clip -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] A Sociological Analysis of the Rogue Trader

is obviously self-serving, but much of it rings true -- especially his ill-fated efforts to be accepted. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Eisenhower Republicans

back in the 1950s 1960s, the ultra-right-wing John Birch Society said that Eisenhower was a communist. Nowadays, when JBS crap (e.g., Anne Coulter) has become mainstream, they may be right. What a difference a few decades make. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your

Re: [PEN-L] Capitalist pig of the month

I am a socialist in the real sense of the word, Mr. Vargas says. CB: I wonder if the translation of this should be socialite instead of socialist. or he means that he wants to socialize risks while privatizing benefits. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own

[PEN-L] cassandra's dream

the good ones. Cassandra's Dream was often excessively melodramatic, generally slow-paced, and sometimes made us laugh (despite Allen's intentions). -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] cassandra's dream

I should have said Phillip Seymour Hoffman is worth the price of admission _as usual_. On Jan 31, 2008 11:35 AM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Devine wrote: My review: skip it. See Before the Devil Knows You're Dead instead. (It's also about brothers in crime. Phillip Seymour

[PEN-L] Devine in the news!

creación. Criticó que se haya concebido como un contrapeso a lo que los sindicatos han venido haciendo hasta ahora. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] Devine in the news!

(s)he's my evil twin. On Jan 31, 2008 7:21 PM, Max B. Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I saw the header I thought this was about that big fat drag queen in the John Waters movies. Jim Devine wrote: In LA OPINION, a L.A. Spanish-language newspaper, I am said something like

Re: [PEN-L] The dollar and U.S. hegemony

$. But it doesn't have to do so. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] U.S. economist on Marx in Chinese newspaper

for a change? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] What is the Fed worried about?

and all other political prisoners! -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] What is the Fed worried about?

Doug Henwood wrote: A rogue trader, as they say, is one who starts losing money. Isn't it that a rogue trader is one who's caught? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] What is the Fed worried about?

me: Free Jerome Kerviel and all other political prisoners! Shane: But Kerviel *is* free--on his opn recognizance. hey, it was a joke, hearkening back to when the left was always calling for freeing political prisoners. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own

Re: [PEN-L] What is the Fed worried about?

is sending a four word message: ITS TIME TO PANIC. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] unproductive labor's role [was: A New Economy?

. With this assumption, r is constant even though U is becoming more important. On Jan 28, 2008 9:10 AM, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shane Mage wrote: Marx makes it quite clear that the wages of socially necessary but unproductive labor are paid out of [the circulating portion of] constant capital. While

Re: [PEN-L] A New Economy?

, rather than simply being a matter of fiddling with formulas. This last paragraph doesn't quite make sense to me, so any input would help. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] George Habash, marxist, Dies at 82

! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] light bulbs -- not a joke.

of manufacture, manufacturing plant and manufacturer. how many pen-pals does it take to screw in a light-bulb? -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] light bulbs -- not a joke.

for people to fake being aggravated by fluorescent bulbs. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] democracy/republic in Iran vs. in the USA

, and selects government policies to be placed before the legislature. In general, it seems that power is more diffuse in the USA, so it's harder for people to decide who to blame. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] folkloric? [was: A New Economy?

. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

Re: [PEN-L] A New Economy?

new property rights, which are held by the employer. Paul Phillips: But Louis, isn't that the point. Unproductive labour must be paid out of surplus value. As the ratio of unproductive to productive labour increases, the rate of exploitation of productive labour must increase, no? -- Jim

Re: [PEN-L] A New Economy?

total sense. On the other, alas, I'm afraid it does not add very much to our understanding of the laws of motion of capitalism, especially the most concrete aspects of those dynamics. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl

Re: [PEN-L] query: laws of models

stories are about how these laws fail to solve all problems with robots. -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] new coins

the following is funny and sad, despite a dollop of right-wing nuttiness: http://blip.tv/file/520347 -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] [only?] 935 False Statements that Led a Nation to War

persona slipped? ] snip -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[PEN-L] query: laws of models

domains) because no model can tell the whole story. does anyone have any comments? is there anything I can add to the list? (A fourth presents a problem: Isaac Asimov had only three laws of robotics and I don't want to exceed his effort.) -- Jim Devine / Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti

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