Re: Drawing a Line

1998-01-08 Thread Eugene P. Coyle
Tom Walker wrote that he (and Max) want to hear more about accounting. I missed Max' post somehow and am only responding to Tom's desire to find the missing link that I'll call "labour accounting within capitalism". Tom take a look at an old book, JM Clark's "Studies in the Economics of

Re: Drawing a Line

1998-01-08 Thread Tom Walker
Max Sawicky wrote, I'd like to hear more on the substance of the accounting issues, which really get my juices flowing. I'd like to hear more, too. It seems to me that there is a missing link that I'll call "labour accounting within capitalism". Having done a literature scan on accounting

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-30 Thread R. Anders Schneiderman
At 01:15 PM 12/28/97 -0400, Tom Kruse wrote: One of my ocncerns is the way bailouts are really cover for "lockins" into free trade regimes, de-regulation, etc. So, concretely, what would a bailout for S. Korea look like that: - protects the most vulnerable small savers and small businesses -

re: drawing a line

1997-12-29 Thread maxsaw
. . . political end. Here's part of a recent column by the beloved Pat Buchanan (NY Post, 11/29): I'd like to note that on the level of op-ed analysis, Buchanan's comments here are unimpeachable. The only wrinkle in the quote is the gratuitous, jew-baiting reference to Goldman Sachs.

RE: drawing a line

1997-12-29 Thread Aidi A Rahim
Daum[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 1997 11:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: re: drawing a line On: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 14:05:31 -0500, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that these international

re: drawing a line

1997-12-28 Thread Walter Daum
On: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 14:05:31 -0500, Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that these international bailouts, unlike the SL resuce, don't cost U.S. taxpayers anything. The Treasury made a profit on the Mexico bailout, and the Bretton Woods institutions are also profit-makers. I know

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread maxsaw
. . . validating those threatened financial practices. Anyone here want to risk a global deflation? When it goes on a spree, big finance takes lots of hostages. I wouldn't, but I don't think the authorities would either, which ought to create opportunities for concessions. That's why

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread maxsaw
From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . Except that these international bailouts, unlike the SL resuce, don't cost U.S. taxpayers anything. The Treasury made a profit on the Mexico bailout, and the Bretton Woods institutions are also profit-makers. The question is how much

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Thomas Kruse wrote: One of my ocncerns is the way bailouts are really cover for "lockins" into free trade regimes, de-regulation, etc. So, concretely, what would a bailout for S. Korea look like that: - protects the most vulnerable small savers and small businesses - lets the big wasters take

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread Doug Henwood
James Devine wrote: In a somewhat muddled op-ed article in today's L.A. TIMES, Perotoid Populist Kevin Phillips had an interesting suggestion: that any bail-outs of "elite" financial institutions be paid for by a tax on financial transactions, rather than out of general revenues. He called this

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread Tom Walker
A practical response to bailouts requires attention to something the left generally hasn't been too interested in: accounting standards. The New York Times article on the IMF's New Look contains two paragraphs that sum up the contrast between the arcane practices that actually determine the

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread maxsaw
From: James Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a somewhat muddled op-ed article in today's L.A. TIMES, Perotoid Populist Kevin Phillips had an interesting suggestion: that any bail-outs of "elite" financial institutions be paid for by a tax on financial transactions, rather than out of

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread Thomas Kruse
And a note: it seems to me that a central part of a progressive "no bailout" policy would be pointing to the record of how such bailouts "structurally adjust" millions outside the US into ever greater instability, vulnerabilty and lower wages. In fact, I would suggest that working out a

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-28 Thread James Devine
In a somewhat muddled op-ed article in today's L.A. TIMES, Perotoid Populist Kevin Phillips had an interesting suggestion: that any bail-outs of "elite" financial institutions be paid for by a tax on financial transactions, rather than out of general revenues. He called this "privatizing." Jim

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-27 Thread maxsaw
From: Thomas Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max's drawing a line post is very timely, very to the point: we really must hash out what a progressive position on bailouts should be. I agree that these are the sorts of crises we will see more of. As evidenced by the NYT article attached

Re: Drawing a Line

1997-12-27 Thread Thomas Kruse
Max's drawing a line post is very timely, very to the point: we really must hash out what a progressive position on bailouts should be. I agree that these are the sorts of crises we will see more of. As evidenced by the NYT article attached below, the mainstream press also seems to see this as