[PEN-L] Financiers' activities and wealth creation

2007-03-27 Thread Charles Brown
On the concept of being compensated for taking risk, how is risk defined ? Seems to me risk would mean doing something that has a 50/50 chance or less of succeeding. So, if all the rich were taking socalled risks in lending money, then overall the majority of rich people would lose their money

[PEN-L] Michael Bérubé: amateur red-baiter

2007-03-27 Thread Louis Proyect
As a long-time observer of the “cruise missile left,” I was happy to see Alexander Cockburn nail them in a recent Counterpunch: The war party virtually monopolized television. AM radio poured out a filthy torrent of war bluster. The laptop bombardiers such as Salman Rushdie were in full war

[PEN-L] End of Oil, End of PEMEX

2007-03-27 Thread Leigh Meyers
I like the part about: Mexico, still has plenty of oil, but internal politics prevent the investment needed to develop the resources. I think It's too, too bad 'internal politics' prevents .. 20 or 30 companies to be actively drilling, ...Expensive 'deepwater' drilling for oil that is

[PEN-L] RE: Michael Bérubé: amateur red-baiter

2007-03-27 Thread Daniel Davies
Crooked Timber, a group blog that he joined recently and that was made to order for him. This is a gang of underachieving liberal academics with socialist pretensions ouch! actually the underachieving liberal tendency is only part of the Crooked Timber mix. We also have a couple of bitter old

Re: [PEN-L] Financiers' activities and wealth creation

2007-03-27 Thread David B. Shemano
Charles Brown writes: On the concept of being compensated for taking risk, how is risk defined ? Seems to me risk would mean doing something that has a 50/50 chance or less of succeeding. So, if all the rich were taking socalled risks in lending money, then overall the majority of rich

[PEN-L] question on vocational training

2007-03-27 Thread Jon Baranov
I could have gone to the department of labor and asked them this in person, but didn't feel like it: How affordable is vocational education for least payed workers? Can you get federal loans for it? In its present form in the US, how likely is brief vocational training (as opposed to

Re: [PEN-L] question on vocational training

2007-03-27 Thread Leigh Meyers
Jon Baranov wrote: I could have gone to the department of labor and asked them this in person, but didn't feel like it: How affordable is vocational education for least payed workers? . If you are 'underemployed', meaning chronically low hours of employment, there are federal grants you can

Re: [PEN-L] question on vocational training

2007-03-27 Thread Jon Baranov
Do community colleges/technical colleges in california offer any certifications aside from A.A. degrees? Can you get a certification in any skilled manual trade from these institutions (welding, dental etc.) without being an apprentice? Would a federal loan cover these classes? Leigh Meyers

Re: [PEN-L] RE: Michael Bérubé: amateur red-baiter

2007-03-27 Thread ravi
Daniel Davies wrote: If vanity battles between liberals and leftists over whose opposition to the Iraq War was grounded in the best analysis of modern politics were a bad idea then (and they were) they're a bad idea now. Why call them vanity battles? When Berube smears Noam Chomsky and the

Re: [PEN-L] question on vocational training

2007-03-27 Thread Leigh Meyers
Jon Baranov wrote: Do community colleges/technical colleges in california offer any certifications aside from A.A. degrees? Can you get a certification in any skilled manual trade from these institutions (welding, dental etc.) without being an apprentice? Would a federal loan cover these

Re: [PEN-L] End of Oil, End of PEMEX

2007-03-27 Thread Leon Kuunders
Leigh Meyers wrote: Again, I just want to thank the oil companies, and every single car owner on the planet (for a start), for the destruction of our only biosphere. You're welcome.

Re: [PEN-L] End of Oil, End of PEMEX

2007-03-27 Thread Leigh Meyers
Something else the citizens of Mexico can thank you for, with... 20 to 30 foreign based companies drilling and polluting in the region. Cancer... and the suppression/discreditation of anyone who would bring the issue into the public view. ...and let me tell ya', it takes ALOT of suppression to

Re: [PEN-L] Cultural Imperialism (was new radio product)

2007-03-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
On 3/27/07, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/25/07, Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got around to taking a look at an article by Omar Lizardo. According to him, theory of cultural imperialism argues that the more economically disadvantaged people are in the world economy,

Re: [PEN-L] question on vocational training

2007-03-27 Thread Jon Baranov
So to sum it up: The costs of loan-eligible vocational training are not prohibitive for a full time worker (who makes say $8/hour). Without on the job experience, the certification alone will give the worker a good chance to get the job and pay off the loan. This is correct, right? Still, 90%

Re: [PEN-L] Rethinking Mutual Aid

2007-03-27 Thread Michael Hoover
On 3/26/07, Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd think that working-class men and women were also involved in the KKK, but if it was like 25% of adult males, we can still investigate which classes and strata of whites were more represented than others or whether all classes and strata

Re: [PEN-L] walter reed, privatization, and public health care

2007-03-27 Thread michael a. lebowitz
Here's a comment from a good friend in Canada, quite active in healthcare struggles./m From: Colleen Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'michael a. lebowitz' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: Re: [PEN-L] walter reed, privatization, and public health Interesting discussion. I tend to agree with the last

[PEN-L] Tina Arena: Je m'appelle Bagdad

2007-03-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Someone made a new video for Tina Arena*'s Je m'appelle Bagdad and subtitled it in English: http://youtube.com/watch?v=aiRugtbQGA8. It's a sentimental song, and it's getting around among English- and French-speaking Arabs. [* Arena's original video, shot in Morocco, is here:

Re: [PEN-L] [PEN-L] RE: Michael Bérubé: amateur red-baiter

2007-03-27 Thread Michael Perelman
Daniel, I just wanted to send a brief note to carry you how much I appreciate your consistent good sense, which is rare phenomenon on the list. On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 05:31:03PM +0100, Daniel Davies wrote: Crooked Timber, a group blog that he joined recently and that was made to order

[PEN-L] Kathem Al Saher, My Country

2007-03-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Listen to Kathem Al Saher's My Country / يا وطني at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VNoHdFPY5I, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-X0taYN5M, or http://www.alsaherfans.com/Audios/collection1/ya_watany.mp3. If you like the singer, look up his name كاظم الساهر or various transliterations of his name

Re: [PEN-L] [PEN-L] [PEN-L] RE: Michael Bérubé: amateur red-baiter

2007-03-27 Thread Michael Perelman
That was supposed to be off list. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com

Re: [PEN-L] question on vocational training

2007-03-27 Thread Leigh Meyers
On 3/27/07, Jon Baranov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to sum it up: The costs of loan-eligible vocational training are not prohibitive for a full time worker (who makes say $8/hour). Without on the job experience, the certification alone will give the worker a good chance to get the job and pay

[PEN-L] ...and rumours of war

2007-03-27 Thread Leigh Meyers
War in the east, war in the west, war up north, war down south, and rumours of war: -- Bob Marley UK denies rumor of sailor rescue mission in Iran Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:50 PM ET http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNewsstoryid=2007-03-28T015013Z_01_L28107044_RTRUKOT_0_TEXT0.xml