Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: ?Section 1)

2002-11-13 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 07:15:23PM -0700, Sean M. Burke wrote: wrote on Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:50:34 -0800: and the ability to turn syntax inferencing on a per-document basis. On the Pod-people list, we have mostly decided that those inference rules are more trouble than they are worth,

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: ?Section 1)

2002-11-13 Thread Tim Bunce
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 07:15:23PM -0700, Sean M. Burke wrote: That's vaguely like the verbatim-formatted stuff that I've been experimenting with lately, where the second line here: flock COUNTER, LOCK_EX; #: ^^^ bolds the characters above the ^. I'd like to see an

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: ?Section 1)

2002-11-13 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:49:57PM -0700, Sean M. Burke wrote: : Larry Wall wrote on Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:40:05 -0800: : could certainly talk about improvements. As for per-document policy, : there should certainly be some kind of : : =use module : : directive that, like Perl's Cuse, is

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: ?Section 1)

2002-11-13 Thread Sean M. Burke
At 09:43 2002-11-13 -0800, Larry Wall wrote: I thought about putting something of the sort into perldpodspec and Pod::Simple, but didn't see a particularly clean way to have it so that 1) you wouldn't have to depend on a particular Pod-parsing module, and which 2) could work in cases where the

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: ?Section 1)

2002-11-12 Thread Larry Wall
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:50:34PM -0800, Damien Neil wrote: : I'd love to see a cleaner POD, with tables, better support for lists, : and the ability to turn syntax inferencing on a per-document basis. We used a preprocessor to put tables into the POD for the Camel. Lists don't seem to occur all

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: ?Section 1)

2002-11-12 Thread Tim Bunce
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 11:40:05AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:50:34PM -0800, Damien Neil wrote: : I'd love to see a cleaner POD, with tables, better support for lists, : and the ability to turn syntax inferencing on a per-document basis. We used a preprocessor to put

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: ?Section 1)

2002-11-12 Thread Sean M. Burke
wrote on Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:50:34 -0800: I'd love to see a cleaner POD, Have you looked at perlpodspec, and had a look at the new Pod::Simple formatters? with tables, I like tables, but it is sheer agony to produce tables in many output formats. I'm starting to wonder whether some kind

The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: Section 1)

2002-11-11 Thread Garrett Goebel
From: Angel Faus [mailto:afaus;corp.vlex.com] I very much dislike XML for writing. It'd be nice to use some kind of extended POD or something. Something that's mostly content, little structure. Formats with a lot of structure tend to be unproductive, and although the structure is

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: Section 1)

2002-11-11 Thread Adam Turoff
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 01:40:59PM -0600, Garrett Goebel wrote: The general Pro's and Con's of POD seem to be: PRO === simple, concise, limited, extensible, forgiving easy to convert to XXX, easy to write, easy to read, easy to ignore separates block/inline markup, no special editor

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: Section 1)

2002-11-11 Thread Michael Lazzaro
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 11:58 AM, Adam Turoff wrote: Two arguments that I don't see listed (and may not have been raised in the most recent perl6-language version of the debate) are: So long as someone can come up with a formal POD template that represents all the fields we need,

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: Section 1)

2002-11-11 Thread Angel Faus
Monday 11 November 2002 20:40, Garrett Goebel wrote: The only consist support for something different than POD... was for something that is in fact very similar to, and in fact based upon POD: SDF. http://www.ifi.uio.no/in228/scripting/doc/sdf/index.html And the major arguments for

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: ?Section 1)

2002-11-11 Thread Damien Neil
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:47:01PM +0100, Angel Faus wrote: Does anyone have any experience with SDF? I played with it for some in-house documentation a couple years ago. I'm afraid I wasn't very impressed with it; I found it very difficult to customize the output to what I wanted, and the

Re: The eternal use XXX instead of POD debate (was: Project Start: ?Section 1)

2002-11-11 Thread Adam Turoff
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:50:34PM -0800, Damien Neil wrote: POD parsers also go to a fair amount of trouble to infer syntax. For example, a function name like this() will be rendered differently by many POD processors. This is a good thing, in that you don't have to litter your