Romcc (Parrot and LinuxBIOS)

2003-06-13 Thread John van V.
Hello all, I am on the LinuxBIOS list and my gut sense told me that a compiler that they are developing called romcc might be a fit for Parrot. Since Parrot uses CPU style assembler as its native language, it might make sense to match it with a compiler that can take advantage of this. Along

Adoption ??: Rare Salt-Water Camel May Be Separate Species

2001-02-15 Thread John van V
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1156000/1156212.stm This nuclear/dynamite stuff is making me sad. Wanna contribute in the name of perl ?? Lets see... China + UN = $perl_revenue

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread John van V
Giving talks at YAPC is a no brainer, and I see the criteria of creating public documents and the existance of a deadline being exceeding good things. Documenting the knowlege and preventing the authors from obfuscating the documents (by accident, of course) will generate far to much noise

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-05 Thread John van V
I am supporting regular GNU licensing to relieve the pain I am hearing about in the commercial zone where folks are allegedly up to NG. Also if we use the GNU license, then we dont have to worry about applications meant for perl being written in some other less appropriate language because

Compilers, Corporate Interests and Design

2000-12-08 Thread John van V
Using IBM's choice of Linux and Apache as an example, the compiler is not theirs, it's GCC. Also, when I was doing support for biochemical and statistical modelling at Merck, the scientists choice was GCC over the HP native compiler. (porting GCC to HPUX was one of my responsibilities)

Re: Call for apprentice: was Re: Meta-design

2000-12-07 Thread John van V
I would like to do this, but I think its a bigger job than you imagine, and... "I tend towards insanity from time to time. Good thing its only perl." (you can quote me) (It comes from stresses developing sysadm apps around the single largest depository of human wealth. They actually

Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-17 Thread John van V
"David Grove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : But.. but... but... we don't even have a design spec. I mean, we don't even know for sure what Perl 6 is going to look like for certain, inside or outside. This is precisely why I proposed the BS level just below Development. In fact I'm going to

Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-15 Thread John van V
Using the IBM article that Jarkko found as an example, core implementations of different languages may have more in common with each other than implemetations of the same language, I think PPC is actually significant enough so that it should not be painted into a perl-only corner. Seeing

Win32 Development Env

2000-11-10 Thread John van V
I have been using Cygwin, UWIN and now a ZSH tool set to create SSH1 access to servers from Win32 boxes. More recently, ports got closed between the Unix boxes yet we are able to access them all from our workstations. What this has meant for me is that I have to port all my monitoring,

Re: Design

2000-11-06 Thread John van V
Wow! You're good! Thanks, can I quote you ?? However, the "marriage" part of your prediction is already *mostly* true... future Python... same vein as Lisp -- only the people who really grok Lisp can see it. I totally disagree with your last point though. Thats ok, Perl has stayed

Re: Design, opps- govt foul up

2000-11-06 Thread John van V
FTC = FCC (= FDA = DEA = FBI = DOJ = DOA = CIA = Ma_FIA = ...)

Re: Design

2000-11-03 Thread John van V
once you've lost it, [ simplicity, that is ] it's never coming back How true, I'm not holding my breath for CGI.pm divesment. Simplicity to me as an integrator/admin means having set of binaries that can be recompiled, or preferably configed, into diverse implementations with uniform

Re: TIL redux (was Re: What will the Perl6 code name be?)

2000-10-31 Thread John van V
On 28 Oct 2000 08:06:57 +0200, Ariel Scolnicov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : threaded code is so much slower; this can also be seen as an indictment of threaded code). Now I am really confused. This directly contradicts the Threaded Perl RFC. My instincts still tell me we need two perl core

Re: Threaded Perl bytecode (was: Re: stackless python)

2000-10-24 Thread John van V
This thread seems to be winding down fttb**, Judging from the below, perl multithreading [ I am guessing ] is simply syntatic sugar much the same as Koch C++ is a wrapper for regular cc compiler. This sounds nice, Threading Perl bytecode would be nice about 98% of the time, and

Re: RFC 334 (v1) I'm really trying to understand this...

2000-10-12 Thread John van V
If you get the chance, I would really grateful if you could translate the abstract into lay terms, just confused by the concept of "low level perl" Why??, perl is my only (byte) compiled language...

Re: RFC 334 (v1) Ahhhh.. i get it

2000-10-12 Thread John van V
$thanks - (1000K)

Re: RFC 125 (v2) Components... Should Have... And Testing !!!

2000-10-06 Thread John van V
I'm an admin, perl saved my life... However, yesterday, some simple IO::Socket scripts failed to work on 5.6. I'm not addressing that here but my resulting thought is now that the distribution should only include such core components as are necessariy to define perl's behavior. Those

Re: RFC 125 (v2) Components in the Perl Core Should Have Well-Defined APIs and Behavior

2000-09-28 Thread John van V
a design expressed in UML could be implemented in a non-OO language. Interesting concept... "expressing" perl in UML would certainly add depth to the artistic license ;) I think, though, that the core interface should be procedural. I agree. We should not confuse OOD with OOP. As in

Re: RFC 313 (v1) Perl 6 should support I18N and L10N

2000-09-26 Thread John van V
VMS must die! Hahahahaha !!!

Re: RFC 281 (v1) The Perl 6 Development Log

2000-09-26 Thread John van V
Not to sound too, a, whatever... but you rock, Get it started, make it available, and I will format it into a pleasant (interactive) web page, I promise !!! (thinking faq-omatic)

Threading Debate-- Where ??

2000-09-18 Thread John van V
I have personally agonized about the threading issue, basically w/o every writing a usable script in it. I would like to know where the archive is, its not really obvious, before comenting that we may need two cores, on with one w/o. cheers, john

Re: New Perl rewrite - embedded Perl

2000-09-13 Thread John van V
Tom Christiansen wrote: It [miniperl] isn't substantially smaller, so that does you no good. The socket library seems to be the poster child for what to leave out, but that's a weak argument ... it would make sense to design a miniperl that can dynamically load the "expensive"

Re: RFC 210 (v1) How do I de-typo it ??

2000-09-13 Thread John van V
I really screwed this up, who has editable rights for the pages. ( .htaccess ?? )

Re: New Perl rewrite - embedded Perl

2000-09-13 Thread John van V
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:35:32 -0400, Bennett Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I don't even want to embed the current perl in mutt; I'd love to have a scripting and extension language embedded in there, but not one that's bigger than all the rest of the application. A couple years ago I wrote

RFC 210 (v1) Data/Code Dumping and Freezing

2000-09-12 Thread John van V
=head1 TITLE Data/Binary Dumping and Freezing =head1 VERSION Maintainer: John van Vlaanderen Date: 12 Sep 2000 Mailing List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Number: 210 Version: 1 Status: Developing =head1 ABSTRACT Allow Perl to create serialize both data and code from the