Eliza RFC

2002-04-30 Thread Melvin Smith
Now that Clint has Eliza running on Parrot, I propose that from henceforth, Eliza shall field all newbie questions and take responsibility of the FAQ. Eliza should also field discussions concerning why we don't add new keywords such as elloopo; if you can convince Eliza, then the proposal shall

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Miko O'Sullivan
Damian, now having terrible visions of someone suggesting Celswhen ;-) Then may I also give you nightmares on: elsdo, elsdont, elsgrep, elstry ... :-) -Miko

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Luke Palmer
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Miko O'Sullivan wrote: Damian, now having terrible visions of someone suggesting Celswhen ;-) Then may I also give you nightmares on: elsdo, elsdont, elsgrep, elstry ... Ooh! Why don't we have a dont command! With several variants: dont FILE dont BLOCK

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Chris Dutton
On Tuesday, April 30, 2002, at 01:22 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 1:07 PM -0400 4/30/02, Miko O'Sullivan wrote: Damian, now having terrible visions of someone suggesting Celswhen ;-) Then may I also give you nightmares on: elsdo, elsdont, elsgrep, elstry ... Has anyone brought up

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 13:07, Miko O'Sullivan wrote: Damian, now having terrible visions of someone suggesting Celswhen ;-) Then may I also give you nightmares on: elsdo, elsdont, elsgrep, elstry ... Aaron, trying hard not to be a crackpot, but getting the impression that's now just a dream

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Trey Harris
Why not allow Celse if while still allowing Celsif as a synonym, preserving backwards compatibility while still allowing all these weird and varied constructs people seem to have use for? In any case, I don't really see why Cloop...else necessarily implies all these other cases, too. Maybe

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Luke Palmer
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Trey Harris wrote: Why not allow Celse if while still allowing Celsif as a synonym, preserving backwards compatibility while still allowing all these weird and varied constructs people seem to have use for? Backwards compatability is pretty much a lost cause for Perl 6.

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Trey Harris
In a message dated Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Luke Palmer writes: On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Trey Harris wrote: Why not allow Celse if while still allowing Celsif as a synonym, preserving backwards compatibility while still allowing all these weird and varied constructs people seem to have use for?

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Miko O'Sullivan
Then if you want else when or else do, you're all set. It's an easy change and there are no new keywords. Agree with everything else you said. One minor question: how would else do be different than else? do always does, doesn't it? -Miko

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Jim Cromie
so, assuming we have; print 'you gave me: wordlist = ';# single quote - no interpolation for words - $it { print; FIRST { print '(' }# provisionally NEXT { print ',' } LAST {print ');' } } # and maybe else { print ();\n; } this yields: you gave me:

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Luke Palmer
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Jim Cromie wrote: so, assuming we have; print 'you gave me: wordlist = ';# single quote - no interpolation for words - $it { print; FIRST { print '(' }# provisionally NEXT { print ',' } LAST {print ');' } } # and maybe else { print

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Jim Cromie
Dan Sugalski wrote: At 1:07 PM -0400 4/30/02, Miko O'Sullivan wrote: Damian, now having terrible visions of someone suggesting Celswhen ;-) Then may I also give you nightmares on: elsdo, elsdont, elsgrep, elstry ... Has anyone brought up elselse or unlessunless yet? and since

Re: Eliza RFC

2002-04-30 Thread Clinton A. Pierce
At 11:11 AM 4/30/2002 -0400, Melvin Smith wrote: Now that Clint has Eliza running on Parrot, I propose that from henceforth, Eliza shall field all newbie questions and take responsibility of the FAQ. [...] WE WERE DISCUSSING YOU NOT ME. we were DISCUSSING ELLOOPO! SYMBOL NAME TOO LONG: we were

Re: Loop controls

2002-04-30 Thread Erik Steven Harrison
Lots of people said: Lots of stuff about 'else' loops. *Erik thunks himself some deep thought* I see no true slippery slope here, especially if handled correctly. I suspect that an explicit or implicit why not near the beginning of discussion lead to the feature feeding frenzy and the