I'd like to have a crack at rephrasing this, since everyone but
stevan seems to be getting the wrong impression.
Perl 6 has some hard to answer questions. The questions the
community has answered so far are:
* How the VM will work/look
* What the syntax/feature requirements are
Yuval Kogman wrote:
What I do think is that there is something in the middle of these
two big questions, and they are:
* How will the Perl 6 compiler be designed (parts, etc)
That... was what Pugs Apocrypha was meant to contain, with PA02 being a
design overview, and PA03 onward
Stevan~
On 2/7/06, Stevan Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After all Foo is just a specific instance of the class Class.
Shhh... class objects don't exist ... I was never here,... I will I
count to three and when I snap my fingers you will awaken and will
have forgotten all about class
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:38:14PM +, Robin Houston wrote:
: Late last year I implemented a few Perl 6 features in Perl 5.
: A couple of things have emerged that may be relevant to the
: Perl 6 design. Certainly they're things that I'm curious about.
: I'll send the other one in a separate
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 07:32:18PM -0500, Stevan Little wrote:
: On 2/7/06, Matt Fowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Stevan~
:
: I am going to assume that you intended to reply to perl 6 language,
: and thus will include your post in its entirety in my response.
:
: Yes, sorry... I missed the
IMHO, people who set $/ are, by definition, saying that they expect
lines to terminate with something other than a newline; they should
expect 'say' to conform to their wishes. I don't like the notion of
perl second-guessing the programmer's intentions here; Do what I
mean, not what I say only
One more data point?
I might want a newline or I might want an ORS. The former, say()
gives me. The latter, print() provides.
I cannot imagine ever wanting a mixture of those, and if I ever do,
I expect I'll prefer to say what I mean:
# modulo syntax:
{ temp ORS //= \n; print @args
On 2/8/06, Larry Wall wrote:
From: Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've now been using Csay (via Perl6::Say) for some time -- testing our
collective intuition on this -- and it turns out that b. isn't the least
surprising. At least, not to me. In fact, I am regularly (and annoyingly)
Larry Wall skribis 2006-02-08 8:38 (-0800):
It would be nice to have other data points
I associate say with to-human communication, and there, I don't
generally have records. Without records, no ORS.
However, while I think that say should not be
print.assuming(:ors(\n)), it shouldn't be print
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 23:55, Yuval Kogman wrote:
Does this imply that we should think up this process?
Go ahead.
If I propose a concrete plan for the implementation of Perl 6 in a
layered fashion it will probably be even more overlooked.
I have no authority, and this is not something
On 2/7/06, Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any undef undefinedmatch if !defined $a
Any Regex pattern matchmatch if $a =~ /$b/
Code() Code()results are equalmatch if $a-() eq $b-()
Any Code()simple closure
Luke wrote:
My interpretation (which may be totally off, as I don't have any
confirmation that anybody else is thinking the same way I am) is that
the synopsis is wrong, and commutivity of ~~ is a happy coincidence
wherever it exists. The way I've been thinking about ~~ is just as
the
Consider my Dog $spot. From the Perl6-to-English Dictionary:
Dog: a dog.
$spot: the dog that is named Spot.
^Dog: the concept of a dog.
Am I understanding things correctly?
If so, here's what I'd expect: a dog can bark, or Spot can bark; but
the concept of a dog cannot bark:
can Dog
At 21:30 +0100 2/8/06, Juerd wrote:
Larry Wall skribis 2006-02-08 8:38 (-0800):
It would be nice to have other data points
In the Macintosh world:
1) say is a reserved word in AppleScript that sends text to a speaker (with
windings and a cone).
2) We are forever mucking with $/ and $\ set
On 2/8/06, Jonathan Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Consider my Dog $spot. From the Perl6-to-English Dictionary:
Dog: a dog.
$spot: the dog that is named Spot.
^Dog: the concept of a dog.
Am I understanding things correctly?
If so, here's what I'd expect: a dog can bark, or Spot can
Stevan Little wrote:
Yes, that is correct, because:
Dog.isa(Dog) # true
$spot.isa(Dog) # true
^Dog.isa(Dog) # false
In fact ^Dog isa MetaClass (or Class whatever you want to call it).
At least that is how I see/understand it.
OK. To help me get a better idea about what's going on
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