Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

FWIW, Jupyter can also be used with Perl 6, though surely we ought to advertise it more broadly.

Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

While I am not an expert in R, My observation about the specific features that I use often in R and its equivalence in Perl is as follows. - The *apply functions, Technically it is similar to Perl's map/grep and friends. - Magrittr: Perl5 has no equivalent function, Perl6 has the pipe

Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

A bit of a digression around marketing/evangelizing > When I wanted to learn DataScience, courses using R and Python were > readily available. Even though I had been using Perl for 20 years, I did > not even know where to start in the Perl ecosystem! > I've wondered why PDL isn't more popular,

RE: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

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Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

Marketing is not only about branding. It is also about finding Evangelists. Perl's traditional base was in - Web Development, - Text Processing, - Bio-Informatics and - As a general glue language among the sys admin and EDA community. How many of these sectors are moving away or have

Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

I'm about to publish some blog posts with using Perl 6 to demonstrate some cryptographic primitives. I was thinking about calling it "rakudo" to at least intrigue people and make them google it. Couldn't we call the language rakudo and the implementation nqp-rakudo? (ie a rakudo implementation in

Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

Another 2 or 3 pennies^1 worth of strawman proposing / bikeshedding / flight of marketing fancy about naming etc: Perl's Rapture === Imagine we officially embarked on a year+ long communal process in which we (TPF and Perl community) sort out branding and marketing of Perlish languages.

Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

Don't type here. On 2018-02-10 05:16, Parrot Raiser wrote: On 2/10/18, Darren Duncan wrote: I think if we want to keep "Perl" in the name we should use "C" as a precedent. Other related languages keeping "C" include "Objective C", "C#", "C++", Perl++ would work.

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On 2/10/18, Darren Duncan wrote: > I think if we want to keep "Perl" in the name we should use "C" as a > precedent. > Other related languages keeping "C" include "Objective C", "C#", "C++", > > Perl++ would work.

Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

Ok. So here is something revolutionary. Free up "Perl 6" for a future generation of Perl 5 and remove the ceiling on the perl 5 language. Perl 6 has become more than a major iteration, hasn't it? Perl on parrot Perl on jam Perl on mono Lots of space for a five from six once you vacate the lot.

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-language@perl.org> Subject: Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CA. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Thought the conversation felt like bikeshedding but... My point

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Thought the conversation felt like bikeshedding but... My point still stands. This is a new language targetted at a post php world. The significance of a version number will be lost outside the perl echo chamber and in that context seen as baggage... IMHO... YMMV... On 9 Feb 2018 6:15 pm, "Lucas

Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

I doubt the name is "up for discussion" just because there's a blog post about it. The name ain't changing ever, or at least that's how I understand things. But, please, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Sure, you can have as many alternative nicknames and aliases as you want (for marketing

Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

Looking at possible candidates from a search-engine results and alternative manings test. some possible choices: Mu, (the root object class), Camelia, (the spokesbug taking over), Shesh, (the female form of 6 in Hebrew, but unfortunately also in the Urban Dictionary - look it up for yourself).

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Well, for what it's worth, as an outsider - IMHO, leaving "perl" behinds a good thing. Love it or loath it, we live in a js/python/jvm leaning world. Perl was great, but it's dated. Why have the baggage? Rakudo is a new language. Treat it as such - best hope for it. In layman's terms an informal

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My personal favorite resolution is to officially name the language Rakudo, full stop. The implementation that was/is using the name would be renamed to something else so it isn't the same as the language. Then we say "Rakudo" is a sibling language of "Perl", full stop. Then "Perl 6" becomes

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nguage@perl.org> Subject: Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of CA. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Thanks for the summary of the high points, as there were a large num

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Just Mu would be an amusing Perlish pun based on Muttsu... Making the interpretation either Perl "six" or Perl "most undefined". I like yary's idea too. Frankly, if Perl had an identity, I would not care about the name. I feel like it lacks that right now. -- Aaron Sherman, M.: P:

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Thanks for the summary of the high points, as there were a large number of low points in previous discussions. Roku is not the only reading for 六 in Japanese, the kun reading is muttsu. So we could become Mupperl. What's the counter word for computer languages, anyway? On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at

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On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Aaron Sherman wrote: > ... > IMHO, 6 has always been the personal name, but it could be changed to > something that's "sixish" without being an explicit number. Normally, I'd > recommend Latin, but Perl Sex is probably not where anyone wants to go...

Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?

I think this is a fine place, personally. Past discussions have included these high points as I recall them: 1. Perl is definitely the family name 2. Rakudo started out as the name of an implementation, but started to wander into being the name of the specific leaf in the family tree