Re: [pestlist] pestlist question

2012-08-06 Thread Alex Roach
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Hi Rosa

Freezing will do the job fine, as long as the piece is bagged and allowed to 
thaw post freezing (to prevent damage from condensation). There is a risk of 
damage to any binders if present (i.e. glue/paste), so if that is the case I'd 
use low oxygen.

Best wishes
Alex



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 I have a question about fumigating a work of art made out of corrugated 
 cardboard.  The piece is a chair by architect Frank Gehry and it has 
 silverfish.  Freezing?  Anoxia?  Is one better than the other for these 
 critters?  I would think freezing might be damaging to the cardboard but I'm 
 not sure.
 
 Thanks for any help, 
 
 Rosa Lowinger, Principal and Chief Conservator
 Rosa Lowinger  Associates - Conservation of Art + Architecture
 Los Angeles • Miami 
  305.573.7011  323.377.8425  
 www.rlaconservation.com
 
 
 
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RE: [pestlist] pestlist question

2012-08-06 Thread Anderson, Gretchen
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Hi Rosa,

Both methods work well when done correctly.  My preference is always for 
freezing (or heating) because it takes less time to achieve results than anoxia 
and it is easier to set up.  Follow the guidelines for freezing on 
MuseumPests.net and you should have no problems.  When the object is well 
sealed in a double bag there will be very little fluctuation in the RH in the 
immediate environment. If you are concerned you can place a sorbent of some 
kind, (Silica gel etc) in the bag.  Try it on scrap cardboard if you are 
concerned.  Freezing has been used successfully to mitigate pest issues on 
books and other paper products for many years - it is very successful.

Good luck!
Gretchen Anderson
Conservator
Carnegie Museum of Natural History

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Hi Rosa

Freezing will do the job fine, as long as the piece is bagged and allowed to 
thaw post freezing (to prevent damage from condensation). There is a risk of 
damage to any binders if present (i.e. glue/paste), so if that is the case I'd 
use low oxygen.

Best wishes
Alex



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I have a question about fumigating a work of art made out of corrugated 
cardboard.  The piece is a chair by architect Frank Gehry and it has 
silverfish.  Freezing?  Anoxia?  Is one better than the other for these 
critters?  I would think freezing might be damaging to the cardboard but I'm 
not sure.

Thanks for any help,

Rosa Lowinger, Principal and Chief Conservator
Rosa Lowinger  Associates - Conservation of Art + Architecture
Los Angeles • Miami
 305.573.7011tel:305.573.7011  323.377.8425tel:323.377.8425
www.rlaconservation.comhttp://www.rlaconservation.com/



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Re: [pestlist] RE: Vikane and Talstar P interactions with historic clothing/textiles

2012-08-06 Thread Appelbaum Himmelstein
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I suggest you talk to Joe Perko at Rapid Refile, a company that does vacuum 
freeze-drying and other kinds of disaster mitigation.  They have fabulous 
freezing capabilities, and everyone there is knowledgeable and a pleasure to 
work with.  Their facility is in Pennsylvania under 2 hours from NYC.  Phone: 
877-59-RAPID.

I am very much against using chemical pesticides in cases like this.  No matter 
how sure you may be about safety, some of your users would no doubt be 
uncomfortable handling the material.  These days, people have plenty of reason 
not to believe it when they're told that some chemical is safe. You absolutely 
cannot put yourself in a position where you use chemicals and don't tell 
anyone.  IF then someone finds out, it will look like you were hiding something 
bad.

Barbara Appelbaum

On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Kaplan, Emily wrote:

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 Hi,
 Freezing will be faster than Vikane or anoxia, and should be cheaper. Perhaps 
 you should look into a freezer truck. It will be safer  than Vikane if you 
 have poor ventilation but a qualified exterminator should be making sure that 
 there is efficient ventilation, in which case you should not have any 
 residual sulfuryl fluoride.  Studies on the effects of Vikane on 
 proteinaceous collections materials were somewhat inconclusive. Freezing is 
 ideal for collections like this.
 Best,
 Emily
  
 Emily Kaplan
 Conservator
 Smithsonian National Museum of the American Indian
 Cultural Resources Center
 4220 Silver Hill Rd Suitland MD 20746
 301.238.1418 fax 301.238.3201
 kapl...@si.edu
  
  
  
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 Hello,
 I am the manager of a collection of about 10,000 pieces of vintage clothing 
 (mostly wool and fur/leather) that are infested with moths. I am looking into 
 the possibility of a low temperature treatment (freezing) of the collection 
 in the NYC area. Freezing the collection will definitely be time consuming 
 and expensive, although I believe it is possible. That said, it is a 
 working collection, meaning the vintage is used as reference material and 
 in heavy circulation (like a library book); e.g. constantly being handled by 
 people all day without gloves. Because so many people rely on it on a daily 
 basis, I am getting pressure from above to fumigate the entire thing. The 
 fumigant the exterminator would like to use is Vikane, and then they would 
 like to clean the entire collection room with Talstar P.
 My questions to you all are:
 · Will Vikane cause damage or change the appearance of the 
 collection? (I know that it likely will, especially because of the wool, but 
 wanted to double check)
 · Is it safe to fumigate the clothing with Vikane and then return the 
 items to immediate handling by people?
 · Is it safe for me to be handling a collection on a daily basis (50 
 hrs/week) that has been fumigated with Vikane?
 · Is Talstar P a good choice for cleaning the shelving, walls, nooks 
 and crannies with?
 · Is it safe for me to be confined in a room with poor ventilation 
 that has just been treated with Talstar P? 
 I have read the MSDS sheets for the chemicals and the JAIC article about 
 Vikane from 1990, but still feel uneasy about the toxicity of the 
 fumigants/pesticides that they would like to use. I want to be armed with as 
 much information as possible to make this decision.
 I know this is a lot to ask all at once, and thank you all in advance for any 
 advice you can offer. 
 Best regards,
 Nicole
 
 
 
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