Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-07 Thread Damien Miller
Han Boetes wrote: Not so much as a direct reply but more as to share what happened when I was ddossed a few month ago. The thing that brought my pc to it's knees was pflog trying to log it all. Once I found that out I disabled logging and Then I hardly had a connection because my upload

Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Michiel van Baak
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:18 -0500 jolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 02:49:42PM +0100, Michiel van Baak wrote: Anyone who can enlighten me ? ddos attacks need to be blocked at the router and even then it doesn't mean you're going to come away from one unscathed. -

RE: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Sacha Ligthert
Hi List, The host that is being attacked, there isn't much you can do about a dDos. I wonder on the other side what can be done (by pf) to prevent the host being used as a zombie spawning (spoofed) packets like mad. Anybody a clue? Sacha

Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread jolan
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:44:38PM +0100, Sacha Ligthert wrote: I wonder on the other side what can be done (by pf) to prevent the host being used as a zombie spawning (spoofed) packets like mad. Anybody a clue? you can stop spoofed packets from going out by only passing things out which have

Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 07:13, Daniel Hartmeier wrote: There's a link to a patch for pf that allows further session limiting on honeynet.org. Thanks for the tip. Any plans to include this patch in future releases? -J.

Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Michiel van Baak
Thnx all. The trick with the max states and timeouts works fine. Michiel

RE: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Sacha Ligthert
- From: Daniel Hartmeier [mailto:daniel;benzedrine.cx] Sent: woensdag 6 november 2002 13:22 To: Sacha Ligthert Subject: Re: dDoS attacks On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 01:19:53PM +0100, Sacha Ligthert wrote: Will this patch be added to the main pf devel repository one day? Have you read

Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Daniel Hartmeier
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 08:11:04AM -0500, Jason Dixon wrote: Ok, I'll refine my question (after reviewing the tarball). Any chance that the related functionality provided by netfilter (--limit) will be built into PF in future releases. Obviously, this type of feature still has its

Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Han Boetes
Michiel van Baak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've been spending 3 days searching on google and reading docs/howto's about pf. But I didn't find any information about how to protect you server/network against dos and ddos attacks. Anyone who can enlighten me ? I'm pretty new to OpenBSD.

Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 08:57, Han Boetes wrote: firewall stuffed the upload. After that I disabled return-rst I got a continous stream of 50kb/s and I barely noticed I was ddossed. So my suggestion would be to put in triggers in pf that would go of at certain levels that would indicate

Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Henning Brauer
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:38:33PM +0100, Daniel Hartmeier wrote: Well, a real distributed DoS attack involves many hosts fully establishing connections to a service you provide to the public, which either saturates your uplink or the resources on your server so that legitimate connections

Re: dDoS attacks

2002-11-06 Thread Henning Brauer
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 12:38:56AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: real life example: we were target to a DDoS about a year ago - sucked a total incoming bandwidth of over 1 TByte/s - of course that's far beyond our gack, I need sleep. It was over 1 GBit/s of course. a TBytes/s would be a bit much