Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything important we missed? Any suggestions? - review pharo-dev images and make comments so that the official Pharo image contains some dev tools and pharo-dev becomes useless. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi Adrian, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image, which will be packaged as a one-click image, Pharo-IDE. And the one where the actual development of Pharo takes place is named Pharo-CORE. Using DEV is ambiguous because its not clear

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Serge Stinckwich
2008/11/3 Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thanks, I forgot to list the one-click image. I added the plan to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image, which will be packaged as a one-click image, Pharo-IDE. And the one

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image, which will be packaged as a one-click image, Pharo-IDE. And the one where the actual development of Pharo takes place is named Pharo-CORE. Using DEV is

[Pharo-project] A new plugin for Eclipse to ease code browsing

2008-11-03 Thread Damien Cassou
http://www.nwiresoftware.com/ screencast: http://www.nwiresoftware.com/sites/nwiresoftware.com/video.php?file=/sites/nwiresoftware.com/files/video/nwire-intro.flv -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck».

Re: [Pharo-project] SLICE-Object-isTransparent-GwenaelCasaccio.2?

2008-11-03 Thread Gwenael Casaccio
Hi, This is the issue 129 Cheers, Gwenael On 11/1/08 9:42 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi Gwenael, In PharoInbox there is the following slice, but I don't know which issue it corresponds to (please always add the issue number in the slice comment or file name)? Cheers, Adrian Name:

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Why not to have Pharo-standard and Pharo-Enterprise ? The idea is that the version *with* the tools is the standard. Not the one without. ;-) What about Pharo-minimal and Pharo-enterprise? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03.11.2008, at 15:52, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Why not to have Pharo-standard and Pharo-Enterprise ? The idea is that the version *with* the tools is the standard. Not the one without. ;-) What about Pharo-minimal and Pharo-enterprise? I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo.

[Pharo-project] Re: Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Francois Stephany
During ESUG, we discussed about that with Marcus. IIRC, he wanted the current pharo-dev (your Pharo-IDE) to be named just Pharo. The core, which should only be used by people knowing what they do would be named Pharo-core. I agree, in my humble opinion it seems to be the best choice. Francois

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo. So do I -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Bill Schwab
Francois, Welcome to the list! +1 on the naming scheme. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/03/08 9:56 AM During

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03.11.2008, at 10:55, Serge Stinckwich wrote: 2008/11/3 Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thanks, I forgot to list the one-click image. I added the plan to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image, which will be

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Adrian Lienhard
ok, then, let's take Pharo-Core and Pharo. Adrian On Nov 3, 2008, at 17:07 , Ramon Leon wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo. +0.9 Pharo-Core and Pharo-Dev (+0.1) Michael Ditto, I like Core and Dev better, but Pharo-Core and Pharo aren't bad either. Ramon Leon

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03.11.2008, at 15:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Yes good idea, to have 2 differents names, but why Pharo-IDE ? There is no IDE in the core version ? There is only a minimal one, and it will be further reduced in the future. So, for real work, it is suggested to use the IDE image, which

[Pharo-project] OT: how much Smalltalk code is in Linux kernel

2008-11-03 Thread Pavel Krivanek
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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Yes good idea, to have 2 differents names, but why Pharo-IDE ? There is no IDE in the core version ? There is only a minimal one, and it will be further reduced in the future. So, for real work, it is suggested to use the IDE image, which includes all the productivity tools like

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Tudor Girba
I like that, too :)DoruOn Nov 3, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:ok, then, let's take Pharo-Core and Pharo.AdrianOn Nov 3, 2008, at 17:07 , Ramon Leon wrote:Marcus Denker wrote:I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo.+0.9Pharo-Core and Pharo-Dev (+0.1)MichaelDitto, I like Core and Dev better, but

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Pavel Krivanek
I suggest to have at least one next image - without everything what can be safely unloaded. For the next cleaning and shrinking purposes. Of course if you want to have similar sequence of automatically build images like the KernelImage. -- Pavel On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Adrian Lienhard

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Giovanni Corriga
Adrian Lienhard ha scritto: On Nov 3, 2008, at 10:55 , Serge Stinckwich wrote: Why not Pharo-stable and Pharo-unstable ? because there exists a stable CORE too. Changes are done on the core and from this the IDE is then built. I hope this helps to explain the rationale behind the

Re: [Pharo-project] OT: how much Smalltalk code is in Linux kernel

2008-11-03 Thread Michael Roberts
-9 lines? did I read that right? Mike ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] OT: how much Smalltalk code is in Linux kernel

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Maybe some comment using ... are present in the code that is ignored for some reason from the compiler. Cheers, Alexandre On 3 Nov 2008, at 19:16, Michael Roberts wrote: -9 lines? did I read that right? Mike ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [Pkg] Installer: Installer-Core-AlexandreBergel.244.mcz

2008-11-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Excellent David, Alexandre On 29 Oct 2008, at 17:38, David Röthlisberger wrote: Are you updating loadSuperOB? Or shall I do it? I'm just right now in the process of doing it. ;) There is ScriptLoader-DavidRoethlisberger.594 in PharoInbox providing a working version of #loadSuperOB and

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Serge Stinckwich
2008/11/3 Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ok, then, let's take Pharo-Core and Pharo. +1 -- Serge Stinckwich IRD - UR 079 Geodes, MSI Team, Hanoi, Vietnam Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://doesnotunderstand.org/ ___

[Pharo-project] Re: OT: how much Smalltalk code is in Linux kernel

2008-11-03 Thread nicolas cellier
Alexandre Bergel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe some comment using ... are present in the code that is ignored for some reason from the compiler. Cheers, Alexandre On 3 Nov 2008, at 19:16, Michael Roberts wrote: -9 lines? did I read that right? Mike