Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar Theme

2010-04-05 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
David T. Lewis a écrit : On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:13:25AM +0200, Michael Rueger wrote: On 4/3/2010 11:09 AM, St?phane Ducasse wrote: did you check on the etoy image? I imgaine that they have their own repository? Sye AFAIK they don't use Monticello... MCHttpRepository location:

[Pharo-project] 11308 cleanup

2010-04-05 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, two classes are not removed properly. This code removes obsolete classes: DataStream initialize. clean obsolete KedamaFloatArray. Class removeSubclass: (SystemNavigation default obsoleteClasses detect: [:class | class name = 'AnObsoleteObjectTracer']) class. -- Pavel

[Pharo-project] A small idea how to get closer to hardware with small efforts :)

2010-04-05 Thread Igor Stasenko
Hello again, it is about running a native code , stored in compiled methods. All we need is: a) allow code execution for object memory. On most platforms this is trivial - just pass additional flags to virtual memory allocation functions. b) add a single primitive 'call a native code' c) use a

[Pharo-project] about UIFeedback

2010-04-05 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi I have the impression that it would be good that we have a way to specify that either a UI feedback should be standalone or that it can be standalone if not invoked when another ui feedback tasks place (in such a case it can be part of the previous line. I was trying to reduce the stack

Re: [Pharo-project] CollabActive book :)

2010-04-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, You can subscribe to the Diffs RSS here: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/?view=PBDiffRssView I also added it in the header. Cheers, Doru On 4 Apr 2010, at 21:17, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi doru I looked for the rss feed but I could not find. May be I missed the obvious? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] CollabActive book :)

2010-04-05 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Great idea ! But what will be the relationship between this book and Pharo by Example ? Not the same material ? Regards, On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi Pharoers We put in place (big big thanks doru, anton, lukas and gemstone for that) a

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux VM microbenchmarks

2010-04-05 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
With gawk gawk, -O2 195121951 bytecodes/sec; 6490934 sends/sec 195569136 bytecodes/sec; 6526995 sends/sec 195569136 bytecodes/sec; 6533044 sends/sec 196168582 bytecodes/sec; 6496917 sends/sec 194086429 bytecodes/sec; 6508915 sends/sec What this latest change to the source code of the VM ?

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux VM microbenchmarks

2010-04-05 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
btw, in all the version you provided there is no free type pluglin Hilaire laurent laffont a écrit : Thanks a lot Hilaire. And if you still have some courage :) here's one with awk gnuification. (You need to have gawk package installed: apt-get install gawk)

[Pharo-project] New step in Pharo modularity

2010-04-05 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Stef, please correct me if I wrote something incorrect :) Hi folks. It is since a couple of months that we have been discussing with Stef about the current Pharo architecture and the different kind of images we have. What we want to achieve, is to have a really small kernel and provide Metacello

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2274: OBMClassQuery error key not found

2010-04-05 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
It is in the issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2274 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: I can reproduce the problem, but I do not see any attachement. Or did you commit your change somewhere? Lukas On 4 April 2010 21:49, Stan

Re: [Pharo-project] CollabActive book :)

2010-04-05 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Maybe this is the basis for PBE2. As then you can export that directly to latex. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea ! But what will be the relationship between this book and Pharo by Example ? Not the same material ? Regards, On

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] a note system for pharo?

2010-04-05 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:54 AM, sergio_101 sergiol...@village-buzz.com wrote: in other systems, i usually have a file that i keep for notes to my self, along with embedding TODO's in the code so that i know where to come back and fill in some blanks in the future... how do you guys

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2274: OBMClassQuery error key not found

2010-04-05 Thread Lukas Renggli
It is fixed. 2010/4/5 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: It is in the issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2274 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: I can reproduce the problem, but I do not see any attachement. Or did you

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] a note system for pharo?

2010-04-05 Thread Stan Shepherd
I follow Steve Wessels's method: http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/035B.html(Leaving Notes In Your Code) He recommends to define a dummy method on Object called #revisit: , passing your note as the string. then you can browse senders of #revisit: to see all your notes. ...Stan --

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2274: OBMClassQuery error key not found

2010-04-05 Thread stan shepherd
Thanks Lukas. Now back to your thesis?? ;) On 5 April 2010 12:01, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: It is fixed. 2010/4/5 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: It is in the issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2274 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Lukas

Re: [Pharo-project] 11308 cleanup

2010-04-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2278 stef On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: Hi, two classes are not removed properly. This code removes obsolete classes: DataStream initialize. clean obsolete KedamaFloatArray. Class removeSubclass:

Re: [Pharo-project] CollabActive book :)

2010-04-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
serge for now there is relationship with PBE (I do not have the time to convert it in web support). The idea is how I write it: make sure that there is a place for people to consolidate and wrtie knowledge/documentation tutorial about pharo. After we will probably see how to trun them into

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] a note system for pharo?

2010-04-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
there is flag: have a look at the senders... :) Far too many? Stef On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Stan Shepherd wrote: I follow Steve Wessels's method: http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/035B.html(Leaving Notes In Your Code) He recommends to define a dummy method on Object

Re: [Pharo-project] New step in Pharo modularity

2010-04-05 Thread Michael Roberts
On Monday, April 5, 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Stef, please correct me if I wrote something incorrect :) Hi folks. It is since a couple of months that we have been discussing with Stef about the current Pharo architecture and the different kind of images we

Re: [Pharo-project] A small idea how to get closer to hardware with small efforts :)

2010-04-05 Thread Igor Stasenko
Here the proof of concept implementation. 1. Build VM with a new primitive (in Interpreter-primitiveNativeCall.st) 2. run image with new VM - file-in a NativeCodeTrailers - then NativeCodeTests I found that on my WinXP, i even haven't to change a platform-specific code to run it - only this

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: A small idea how to get closer to hardware with small efforts :)

2010-04-05 Thread David T. Lewis
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 03:13:51PM +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: Here the proof of concept implementation. So, here the questions, which i like to be answered: 1. reserve a numbered primitive Probably a named primitive in the interpreter is best, see comment in John's new

Re: [Pharo-project] New step in Pharo modularity

2010-04-05 Thread Alexandre Bergel
1) There are packages that should NOT be part of the core, but they are not also dev tools. For example, ObjectTracer, ObjectViewer, Morph examples, Sound, ImageSegment (?) etc. So...where do we put them ? I would imagine to have each package in a dedicated SqueakSource repository,

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] A small idea how to get closer to hardware with small efforts :)

2010-04-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
igor I'm confused. Do you want to write C code in our smalltalk editor? (as in Smalltalk/X) Where the native code is coming? Who compiles it? Can I edit it? Do you have a scenario in mind to help understanding what is your vision behind your suggestion? Stef On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Igor

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem loading Exupery on PharoCore 1.0

2010-04-05 Thread Bryce Kampjes
You can safely ignore this. Mondrian and GraphViz is only used for inspectors to view the generated code and intermediate languages. The easiest way to resolve them would be to load GraphViz and Mondrian from the Exupery repository. It should be easy to port Exupery forward to the latest Mondrian

Re: [Pharo-project] New step in Pharo modularity

2010-04-05 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexan...@bergel.euwrote: 1) There are packages that should NOT be part of the core, but they are not also dev tools. For example, ObjectTracer, ObjectViewer, Morph examples, Sound, ImageSegment (?) etc. So...where do we put them ? I would

Re: [Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ...

2010-04-05 Thread nullPointer
Someone knows the posibilities of implement a Smalltalk environment in MONO .NET? I see projects like http://ajlopez.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/ajtalk-a-smalltalk-like-interpreter/ or too http://www.refactory.com/Software/SharpSmalltalk/ but I will like know the guru´s opinion. Regards. -- View

Re: [Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ...

2010-04-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 5, 2010, at 7:27 PM, nullPointer wrote: Someone knows the posibilities of implement a Smalltalk environment in MONO .NET? I see projects like http://ajlopez.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/ajtalk-a-smalltalk-like-interpreter/ or too http://www.refactory.com/Software/SharpSmalltalk/

[Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ...

2010-04-05 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Someone knows the posibilities of implement a Smalltalk environment in MONO .NET? Read the comments from around 23th of March at http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.smalltalk/browse_thread/thread/ca5ea14ef8d2fbe1# Bye T. -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser

Re: [Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ...

2010-04-05 Thread nullPointer
jarober says: The reason these Smalltalk for .NET and Smalltalk for the JVM projects never seem to come off is simple - Smalltalk isn't just flat text in an editor. Smalltalk is the entire interactive environment. It would be fairly simple to get a syntax parser, but it wouldn't be Smalltalk.

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] A small idea how to get closer to hardware with small efforts :)

2010-04-05 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 5 April 2010 16:49, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: igor I'm confused. Do you want to write C code in our smalltalk editor? (as in Smalltalk/X) err.. no. why i would want that, if i can just generate native code directly? We could use Exupery for generating it, with

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: A small idea how to get closer to hardware with small efforts :)

2010-04-05 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 5 April 2010 15:42, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 03:13:51PM +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: Here the proof of concept implementation. So, here the questions, which i like to be answered: 1. reserve a numbered primitive Probably a named primitive in the

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux VM microbenchmarks

2010-04-05 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 22:19 +0200, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Laurent, I runned the same benchmark with Exupery, here is Exupery 202371541 bytecodes/sec; 5948654 sends/sec 201574803 bytecodes/sec; 5948654 sends/sec 201416207 bytecodes/sec; 5933632 sends/sec 202531645 bytecodes/sec;

[Pharo-project] offList

2010-04-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This fix is important if somebody knows if the solution proposed by nicolas is ok. please let us know http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2276 Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11309

2010-04-05 Thread stephane ducasse
11309 - - Issue 2271: Scanner doesNotUnderstand: #ambiguousSelector:inRange: 1) Fix http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2271 which is also http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7491 2) replace slow asSortedCollection with faster asArray sort (from Squeak)

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar Theme

2010-04-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 03.04.2010, at 13:28, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Michael Rueger a écrit : On 4/3/2010 11:09 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: did you check on the etoy image? I imgaine that they have their own repository? Sye AFAIK they don't use Monticello... Okay. By the way, does this gettext layer

Re: [Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ...

2010-04-05 Thread Richard Durr
No, it's not. I would be far more valuable to have modularized images though: Just like Next/Apples Nibs or Bundle-mechanism. These image-modules would be edited from a development-image-bundle. They could be used to form stand-alone applications already clean of the development code or libraries

Re: [Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ..

2010-04-05 Thread James Ladd
Hi All, jarober says: The reason these Smalltalk for .NET and Smalltalk for the JVM projects never seem to come off is simple - Smalltalk isn't just flat text in an editor. Smalltalk is the entire interactive environment. It would be fairly simple to get a syntax parser, but it

[Pharo-project] Mac carbon VM goes to 4.2.4beta1U

2010-04-05 Thread John M McIntosh
In order to wrap up some VM fixes that should be pushed into the Squeak 4.x offering I've compiled up a 4.2.4beta1U VM This will be the last 4.x series of macintosh VMs as the 5.x series gains support. Someone should run the Sunit and smoke test to ensure the VM is sane. Follow the macintosh

[Pharo-project] Show Actions of a SystemWindow: bug?

2010-04-05 Thread Carla F. Griggio
Hello! I was fooling around with the latest rc3 image and I tried to use the show actions option in the menu of a SystemWindow and got this: *MessageNotUnderstood: ToolSet classopenMessageList:name:autoSelect:* ToolSet class(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #openMessageList:name:autoSelect:

[Pharo-project] How do i import .MCZ into Squeak?

2010-04-05 Thread James Ladd
Hi Pharo, Please be gentle as it has been a while since I have filed into my image I'm looking at this package: http://www.squeaksource.com/@yDzCRgmmKSZ1rdfr/i3M9pl92 I'm wondering how to load it into my Squeak image so I can run it? Rgs, James.

Re: [Pharo-project] How do i import .MCZ into Squeak?

2010-04-05 Thread James Ladd
Hi Pharo, I got the .MCZ package installed, but there is a dependency on RBProgramNode which I can't find. I'm looking for the package / source for RBProgramNode, which I think could just be a image version issue. Is it? Rgs, James. From: james_l...@hotmail.com To:

Re: [Pharo-project] Redline Smalltalk

2010-04-05 Thread Dan Ingalls
James Ladd mailto:james_l...@hotmail.comjames_l...@hotmail.com wrote... Hi Pharo-ites, I'm working on a port of Pharo to the Java Virtual Machine called Redline Smalltalk. (read more here: http://jamesladdcode.com/?p=323http://jamesladdcode.com/?p=323) I'm wanting to port every single